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Pretty obvious.....had to happen with a Monopolly on big races with Millions turning over.
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Exchange of information is not corruption.
And where exactly is the monopoly? Gai isn't the only trainer who runs horses in big races. And Tom isn't the only bookmaker who bets on big races. I think Singleton is just a sook, but if he wants to take his horses elsewhere then good luck to him. |
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Perception Phil.. Its never looked good for the sport
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Heated words between Rob Waterhouse and John Singleton
Nic Ashman Rails bookie and Gai Waterhouse's husband Robbie Waterhouse chased after John Singleton repeating, "tell me what you heard” through clenched teeth as More Joyous's owner stormed off after appearing at a stewards' inquiry at Randwick on Saturday. The spat was part of the fall out after More Joyous's below par performance in the All Aged Stakes where Singleton made claims that Waterhouse's son Tom, one of Australia's biggest online bookies, told friends of Singleton that his horse had a problem. "Go f&$% yourself,” Singleton replied. "Tell me what you f&$%ing heard,” Waterhouse responded. Singleton confirmed to stewards that he’s taking all of his horses off Gai Waterhouse in the coming days. "When Gai’s son knows last night what the result will be today. There’s a conflict of interest,” he said. Robbie...low shady character.. Imo |
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Yep its a fine cotton picken mess
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if ... and only IF ... what singo alleges is true ... then that would constitute family 'insider trading'
but only if ... the bookmaker husband &/or son ... took advantage of that inside information 'insider trading' is illegal in many 'free markets' that are traded to the public the stewards will naturally examine ALL the betting and laying on the race now ... and advise the public of all integrity ... surely |
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Has anyone considered that Young Tom was throwing a massive 'dummy' to his clients in order to NOT lay the mare .... a ploy that actually backfired in the end if you believe his declaration that the result was $300K worse off ???
I wouldn't have a clue what actually occurred - but the possibilities are endless. |
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Singo being treated like a mug, welcome to our world.
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So Bill and Robbie never got information about TJ's horses while he was still training???
Plus every other relationship in the history of racing between trainers / stables and bookmakers - the only difference this time is that they are Mother and Son - it's misogyny i tell ya  |
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So Bill and Robbie never got information about TJ's horses while he was still training???
... wow womble ? not saying it did happen (tj, robbie, gai, young tom, singo) ... but are YOU really saying ... because something has happened before ... that it is okay now ... pretty sure that's a huge pandora's box you've just peeked in to  |
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The price of GOLD is set manually everyday, It's not a supply and demand thing, Yet people still invest in it.
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It's not a supply and demand thing
spot on Otto ... gold, silver, currency, oil pricing etc ... all **** so people best know they are gambling ... not investing and with the derivatives markets ... sometimes your gold has an almost 'papery' feel about it ... ie doesn't 'weigh' too much at all |
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r i g g e d ... ffs moderators you are kidding
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We all try to live by the 10 Commandments, well, to a degree but there is an 11th? ...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Don't get caught!!!!
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word on the street is rugby hero Joey Johns was one of the peeps **** waterhouse told about MJ's bad bloods
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Don't get caught!
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the racing community isn't all that big, it has plenty of interaction - has been happening from day one imo
nothing to see here Thebas apparently Joey Johns has said young Tom told him he would be laying the favourites |
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Think Singo has every right to be upset. But why did he have horses trained by the wife and mother of a bookmaker if he wants to punt in first place. Recipe for disaster. Move your horses to another stable & move on.
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Tony McEvoy is expected to train a few of the horses that have left Gai Waterhouse stable today for Singo.
he has bought Byford Lodge at Hawkesbury. Feels its a great spot to train from and will hopefully increase stable clients. |
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under the radar info i missed from the same article of singo vs the big W's
Pierro was only yesterday bought by breeding giant Coolmore in a reported $30 million deal. http://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/article/-/16904745/all-too-hard-leaves-australia-a-winner/ |
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singleton is a muppet in this case...........horses get beaten..........end of story.........the idea that gai would do anything untoward is nonsense.......shes one of the greatest trainers in history.........im no fan of her bookie son but this is the game and if he wanted to take her on the fair enough.
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I think Mcevoy purchased Bylong Park, quite a large stable complex situated on the back straight of Hawkesbury, at about the 1200m mark
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and are we to think that the waterhouses have never given singleton a tip?
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Big difference between giving a tip on one that is going, than running your horse dead imo..
And hey, if he has been given a tip, or steered away from one that couldn't win, he knows for a fact that his was one of them yesterday. |
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Of course this is a Monopoly Pitsburger Phil. Waterhouse(Australia's leading trainer) / Waterhouse( Australia's leading bookmaker.) Don't know of any other Metro. trainers and bookmakers in a similar relationship. I'm sure 99.9% of things are above board but its not a good luck for Australian racing.
Anyway I got a theory next time More Joyous runs make it race 1 not race 7. This way Singo will more than likely only be 1/2 pissed which in turn will only create half the trouble. |
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Also when I finish painting my sons room I'm gunna post a full unbiased summary of this debateable race, ( All Aged Stakes. 1400. W.F.A.) in full. I'd do it now but the wife's on my back at present, just lucky she's a good cook you know. I'm pretty sure Me and only Me can iron this one out.
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Don't keep us waiting until Monday, Mike
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What colour are you painting it?
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All green like his betfair screen
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Very light creamy yellow. semi flat, very nice. Needs 3 coats. Had to repair plaster wall first. Over the years sons punched a few holes in the wall when his team loses. Madness I reckon. I reckon parents should be aloud to marry em off on E/Bay when their over 21.
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what a coincidence MM - I have just completed painting my daughters bedroom
purple folly is the colour btw |
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Any possibility of an arranged marriage?
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not with joel sniffin around spy
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sniffin around ,,,,,,,, spy or ... sniffin around spy  |
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press return half way thru a sentence mm..its going over the page width..cant read it
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Just keeping an eye/s on things Mr Bas
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Doesn't Tom Waterhouse declare that he has four generations of racing knowledge to rely on, in one or his advertisements?
At least he has been open about his connections. |
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Will affect TW brand, probably go close to knocking 50-100 mill of its value
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