The Ofiicial Grag Miles I got it wrong again in photo finish thread

couldn't be worse than poor hilton just then ... barigan boy barbequed ??? ... ffs jamie had it under triple wraps the whole trip

that **** hilton just said baragin boy was get bbq'd in front..wins buy 4

great minds i hope ted   

PC

I thought it didn't matter to Traders like you, what horse won. I figured you would be green allround.

Most unlike him to complain as well Castiron

Bit rich complaining when he can't even get the guys name right in the thread title.

Never been able to understand the potting of callers who get it wrong in a close finish. 

Some even pot them for fence-sitting when they "leave it to the judge".

Bit like umpiring decisions these days, gee it's easy to call them correctly from the couch...no pressure there

What's to be gained from havin a stab at a head-bobber if you cop abuse for getting it wrong?

We are no longer listin to the wireless, the crystal-set or standing in the T.A.B without vision, relying on the caller

to "paint a picture" are we?

PC, if you have nothing else to complain about, why not spend some time researching your family tree? I'm strongly

tippin........... you're a Pom

i can understand anyone getting it wrong at flemington.. because he was probably right but last twelve months has seen greg getting it wrong during the call way too often. He's got too much on his plate imo and should be concentrating on calling alone. He's an excellent judge imo, gives out plenty of insightful comment on radio sports university .. but it's a long day by the time the last comes around on sat. arvo.

Agree with Tins & Very

Unlike days gone by B.Collins would call em and with 400 to go would switch his eyes from the binoc's to the side window where he had taped all his bets.
Strike rates by race callers at calling the correct winner in a tight finish are still(and will always be) higher than the strike rate of any punter trying to find a winner.

Well Greg's strike rate isnt too good atm, he has got 3 photos wrong in the last few weeks and his calling over the cup carnival at flemington was way down on past years.
If any other caller got 3 wrong they would have got the arse by now

Give it away Greg Miles, you have no idea

Grag's having a bad one already

no doubt he has got worse in the last couple of years

didn't hear the 1sr race - did inside get photo - they often do at flemington

2nd March Flemington Race 3
Avoid Lightning - Loveyamadly

Miles Got it wrong....Big deal, the ones complaining are the ones who lost backing the 2nd horse.  I say have a go and put your neck on the line on a call in a tight finish, thats your job.  Punters who dont like losing money on a miss judged call give it up, most are whinging Pommmys anyway.

That's quite a library you're building there Sourpuss

Does he call many races?

I agree with Mike

Half wrong

Puissance De Lune vs Budriguez

used to love miles....but sadly i think he's on the decline......and greg m8 drop off the 4, everythings 4 in the run and the finish, funny second is called second and third is called third but fourth not only in the run is called 4 also at the finish

Half wrong lol

Half wit

flem. camera ..... steerikes agin.

Judge took 4 minutes with a still picture and a magnifying glass ffs

he got lucky the inside bobbed

Who? The judge

this is the finish

nice work, Ted.

he got lucky the inside bobbed

Maybe Melbourne's race caller should be like Mark Shean in Sydney's R7 Shoot Out gets up to beat Monton, Silence is golden, does not even have a go.  Obviously to viewers on TVN Shoot Out gets up last stride.  Theatre starts Richard Callender takes over and selects the winner before numbers are up to the Public.  PLEASE.

Just to rub a bit of salt into the Sydney wound.
Richard Callenders selections for the day.
R1. Tunes.  Unplaced dividend/7.
R2. Va Pensiero. 2/9.
R3. Streama. 2/7.
R4. Under The Sun. Unplaced/9.
R5. Famous Seamus. Unplaced/10.
R6. Danleigh. 3rd/12.
R7. Impetuous. Unplaced/11.
R8. Uate. 3/11.
What I am trying to say is "These 2 Sydney experts Mark Shean and Richie Callender are the greatest double act in the history of horse racing salesmanship."  No profit but plenty of hot air.

Looks like neither horses nose is on the line to my eye

the racing plate below pdl's nose was the winner

At least its on the line, Budriguez wins by a short half hoof

Monday Mike pretty sure Shean said the thought Shoot Out won, when he says i think he got up i think that he is going for one, no?
I was on course and he went for Shoot Out in the call and said ' from my angle Shoot Out has won"

Mike has his own "reality", Starry. No point discussing things with him in terms of "facts".

Didn't you once have a connection to TVN? Worked there?

Or am I mistaken?

No i think you are mistaken There is No Spoon
I much prefer them to Sky and have defended them a few times i would say because as a punter they have provided me with more info than the other mob but have never worked in racing, just a punter.

Ok, I'm wrong again

I think I remember you defending them. My dis-satisfaction relates to only ONE part of their coverage. Apart from

that I agree with you, TVN

Cheers

PS. I don't even watch Sky

Racecallers should not think in a photo finishs S2, its like a safe eachway bet, its the same as I dont know.  Dont think do.  Letting cameramen do the job for them after the race is not a good look either.

I would rather they think than declare and get it wrong

Monday Mike are you smoking something?
2nd march you say callers should stick their neck out and now you are saying they should not think something one. ????????????
If a caller says he think something has won surely thats his preference, Shean didnt say he thought Monton won, he said he thought Shoot Out won.
A bobbing head is faster than the eye i would think so they are always going to make mistakes but
Miles has stuffed 5 photos in 5 weeks and Shean has probably got 3 wrong in 5 years, having said that we are sitting at home with a white line painted across the track, we probably have a better view than they do, maybe turn the sound down sport and pick the photos yourself.

Fair point.  You must realize one important factor factor S2.   Per race on Melb Metro meetings on average attract 25% more runners per race making the task more difficult for Miles.  Sheans job in Sydney is like a walk in the park Hyde Park.   Most races in Sydney have 6 to 9 runners.  Yesterdays Carnival meeting only attracted on average 8 starters per race.  Easy job for the race caller.  Another 5 years and I guess to say they will be down to 5 to 6 runners per race considering there present pattern.  Sydney race callers for years have had it easy.

Mike ,
Shean also calls all trials in Sydney, sometimes 50 heats a week, there are about 70 sets of trials plus metro calling of about 120 and is on Racing Review, i don't know 20 times a year?? Do you follow racing in Sydney?
If Greg Miles , or in fact any other caller for that matter,turns up for work 210 times a year i will turn poof and despite working less, Miles still **** it up!

I like Shean as a caller more then I do Miles, he normally sticks his neck out and declares the winner in the final 50 metres or so

Getting a close one right doesn't make a good caller. Terry Bailey would get more wrong than any other caller, but still very good to listen to. Mark Shean probably the best going atm, no caller picks the tempo better than him and most races he says whether he thinks they're walking or rolling along, and that is far more important than getting a photo right or wrong

Yous are still missing the point very small fields in Sydney makes the job a breeze, there is much less to look for in running.  Shean does not call races with 20 plus starters down the straight at Flemington.

flem. and sandown are both horrible angles for race callers. At flemington they are not only positioned two hundred miles before the post but also have to call from a hot air balloon stationed somewhere in the stratosphere. Not easy there and you understand just how good a caller bill collins was when you see where their booths are. when ur a bit down on form like grag is ... the **** ups are inevitable.

I dont care if there are 2 runners a race, the way Miles is going he would mix them up and call the wrong one the winner.

Mike lend you some of his smoking gear, Starry?

Sounds like he's got you to drink the bong water

Keep it real, dude.

btw, the OP has his bleary eye on Greg. He's marked two and a dead-heat to dribble about since JAN 28.

You'd thnk he'd stop embarrassing himself on a weekly basis.

Caulfield March 23
Race 4
British General vs Under The Eiffel

When was the last race you called?

Joel, Joel, Joel, Joel.
You are so prediactable. Go crawl under a rock & stop stalking me.

I'm making a point, do you refute that Greg Miles ends up with egg on his face more than any other major states race caller? Because that's what i'm saying. If he doesn't know he should stop embarrassing himself.

oops my bad - wrong one at ascot

How is replying to your thread stalking you?

Can you just leave him alone please Joel, before he takes out an AFO against you

yes stop it Joel - he is my friend and inspiration

Cracking call in race 3 at Flemington, called the THIRD horse the winner.

10 March 13

btw, the OP has his bleary eye on Greg. He's marked two and a dead-heat to dribble about since JAN 28.

Whew.....what's the tally now, Starry? Such a busy thread

BTW I was on course today, I thought the toppy (R3)had won but wasn't sure. Funny thing was....

IT WAS THE ONLY FKN HORSE I WAS WATCHING!!

Get the picture?

spoon, think is his job to watch them all and if he doesnt know say so, they why he is called a racecaller, you on the other hand arent, get the picture.
I cant remember another metro caller get so many photos wrong in the space of 6-8 months and retain his job and i certainly cant recall a caller going for the third horse.
if he doesnt know he should ****g say so and shut the **** up

Watch the race they are coming from everywere field of say 16 horses over 1200m  looking head on as a punter we watch the horse we back,greg watching every horse, yes he is paid to do that. but christ some of you blokes are a bit harsh,he calls how many horses in a meeting? calls 7 races fine and nothing said but gets photo wrong and you lot stick the knife in.A actor can redo the line again. racecallers dont have that luxury.

melbourneracing.com.au
Hits the nail on the head.

From that website

I get the feeling Miles is going with the horses that have the greater momentum as they cross the line and that is costing him.

The winner had the greatest momentum.

The writer had hours to come up with his conclusion...........and got it wrong.

Get the picture?

Spoon did you get the picture in the last at sandown on wednesday, that was another gem of a call, he only calls 15 races a week and f**ks a good percentage of them.
You hear the last at Sandown, tell me what you thought of that call, make another excuse for him.

Writing off a champion in a four horse hurdle field.  This bloke is deadset cooked.  Cash in your superannuation on the way out Greg

Great call there Grag