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Pre-done deal of 9 months is the internet scuttlebutt
Seems light, but he would have a lot of friends in influential positions.
Bet placed credit through Mark Hunter via Laurie Bricknell.
Sounds like Oli and Rob Richter have put together a good sob story.
Good to know, this was the only time Damien has backed a rival runner.
'Bricknell paid Hunter two cheques $10,500. Money left with Robert Smerdon to pass on. '
TVN providing great coverage.......................of the Randwick trials.
a bit harsh? a bit fckn harsh?.....should be in mofo Gaol....Thief!!!!!
what - for having a bet?
lock the lot of us up if thats the case
lock the lot of us up if thats the case
more to come ? ....
Up to 10 jockeys face bans because they placed bets through third parties, News Limited newspapers say.
It is believed betting by jockeys, brought to the surface with leading rider Damien Oliver admitting to betting $10,000 on a horse running in the same race in which he was riding, is widespread.
News Limited says one punter is believed to have co-operated with authorities only after being threatened with a lengthy ban from race tracks.
"Well-placed sources say he maintains a ledger that records bets of a number of top-flight jockeys," reports said on Thursday.
"Industry sources say as many as 10 high-profile jockeys could face sanctions as a result of inquiries under way, further damaging a sport still reeling over the Oliver affair."
http://au.sports.yahoo.com/racing/news/article/-/15385444/up-to-10-jockeys-placed-bets-report/
Up to 10 jockeys face bans because they placed bets through third parties, News Limited newspapers say.
It is believed betting by jockeys, brought to the surface with leading rider Damien Oliver admitting to betting $10,000 on a horse running in the same race in which he was riding, is widespread.
News Limited says one punter is believed to have co-operated with authorities only after being threatened with a lengthy ban from race tracks.
"Well-placed sources say he maintains a ledger that records bets of a number of top-flight jockeys," reports said on Thursday.
"Industry sources say as many as 10 high-profile jockeys could face sanctions as a result of inquiries under way, further damaging a sport still reeling over the Oliver affair."
http://au.sports.yahoo.com/racing/news/article/-/15385444/up-to-10-jockeys-placed-bets-report/
ridiculous rule - they cant even stand in a betting ring for fear of a fine or suspension, but the whole race horse gambling industry revolves around them.
You can't be serios LIH. You don't really want to back a horse ridden by a jockey who has backed something else in the race do you?
perhaps not , but i would definately like to back it if the jock has too
gotta love the mainstream media - for about 360 days of the year racing doesnt get a mention - as soon as something 'bad' happens its on the radio, tv and papers.
No different to all sports and news LIH, Bad news stories sell more papers and make better headlines. Gets more attention from the public. Bar Melb Cup week when people love to have a interest in racing.
ain't that the truth
.. but this recent groundswell of info .. has come about since the cops were sniffing into samba's murder
... the net is wider now and a few more fish will swim into it yet maybe
... investigation into Samba's death had uncovered race-fixing allegations centred on a race involving a horse called Smoking Aces that was ridden by Nikolic at Cranbourne last year.
These allegations led to a probe that helped expose champion jockey Damien Oliver as having placed a $10,000 bet on a rival horse in a race he rode at Moonee Valley in 2010.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/gangster-linked-to-horse-trainers...
.. but this recent groundswell of info .. has come about since the cops were sniffing into samba's murder
... the net is wider now and a few more fish will swim into it yet maybe
... investigation into Samba's death had uncovered race-fixing allegations centred on a race involving a horse called Smoking Aces that was ridden by Nikolic at Cranbourne last year.
These allegations led to a probe that helped expose champion jockey Damien Oliver as having placed a $10,000 bet on a rival horse in a race he rode at Moonee Valley in 2010.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/gangster-linked-to-horse-trainers...
not totally true whatzitcalled - footy, cricket car racing and **** like that get far more 'everyday' coverage than racing does
I hope the mainstream media drag Racing Victoria's name through the mud until its black.
"It beggars belief that a professional organisation such as Racing Victoria took almost a month to investigate Oliver's illegal bet and only laid charges on the Monday after the Spring Carnival ended"
They are a fking joke of an organisation. When The Age broke the news, they were infuriated...... THAT IT WAS REPORTED FFS!!!! How about having some fking integrity and doing something about the corrupt little garden gnomes so it doesn't happen in the first place.
"It beggars belief that a professional organisation such as Racing Victoria took almost a month to investigate Oliver's illegal bet and only laid charges on the Monday after the Spring Carnival ended"
They are a fking joke of an organisation. When The Age broke the news, they were infuriated...... THAT IT WAS REPORTED FFS!!!! How about having some fking integrity and doing something about the corrupt little garden gnomes so it doesn't happen in the first place.
My point LIH was any Scandals or bad news stories always generate more news than a twice as good good news story. the bigger sports have more readers for a good news story. thats why racing stories that aren't on the back page are just before the births and deaths in the Herald Sun.
his biggest crime was giving that silly f vcken movie the go ahead
YOU KNOW NOTHING.
Why knock a bloke on a public forum when you dont know !!
Why knock a bloke on a public forum when you dont know !!
Great yarn from The Age 13 July 1976
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http://www.news.com.au/sport/superracing/trainer-robert-smerdon-to-face-racing-officials-over-involvement-in-damien-oliver-bet/story-fndpqu3p-1226540924776
CAULFIELD trainer Robert Smerdon has been charged by Racing Victoria stewards for handing over $10,000 to banned jockey Damien Oliver after the champion rider placed an illegal winning bet.
The Victorian Racing Appeal and Disciplinary Board will hear the charge at a date to be fixed.
Smerdon has denied having any knowledge of why Oliver was to receive the money, saying he was the middle man asked by commission agent Mark Hunter to give the money to Oliver.
The Oliver betting scandal rocked the spring carnival after the top jockey pleaded guilty to having a bet on a rival horse in a race at Moonee Valley in October, 2010.
He was disqualified from riding for 10 months after he admitted to placing a $10,000 bet.
Stewards charged Smerdon under Australian Rule of Racing AR 175.
The rule reads that "Any person bound by these rules who either within a racecourse or elsewhere in the opinion of the committee of any club or the stewards has been guilty of conduct prejudicial to the image, or interests, or welfare of racing may be penalised".
"I was asked to pass something on to Damien Oliver by a mate, Mark Hunter, and I did. That's what I told them," Smerdon told News Limited earlier this month.
One of the particulars of the charge states, "You did not, at any relevant time, ask Mr Hunter or Mr Oliver, or take any step to determine, the reason or purpose for the payment from Mr Hunter to Mr Oliver."
CAULFIELD trainer Robert Smerdon has been charged by Racing Victoria stewards for handing over $10,000 to banned jockey Damien Oliver after the champion rider placed an illegal winning bet.
The Victorian Racing Appeal and Disciplinary Board will hear the charge at a date to be fixed.
Smerdon has denied having any knowledge of why Oliver was to receive the money, saying he was the middle man asked by commission agent Mark Hunter to give the money to Oliver.
The Oliver betting scandal rocked the spring carnival after the top jockey pleaded guilty to having a bet on a rival horse in a race at Moonee Valley in October, 2010.
He was disqualified from riding for 10 months after he admitted to placing a $10,000 bet.
Stewards charged Smerdon under Australian Rule of Racing AR 175.
The rule reads that "Any person bound by these rules who either within a racecourse or elsewhere in the opinion of the committee of any club or the stewards has been guilty of conduct prejudicial to the image, or interests, or welfare of racing may be penalised".
"I was asked to pass something on to Damien Oliver by a mate, Mark Hunter, and I did. That's what I told them," Smerdon told News Limited earlier this month.
One of the particulars of the charge states, "You did not, at any relevant time, ask Mr Hunter or Mr Oliver, or take any step to determine, the reason or purpose for the payment from Mr Hunter to Mr Oliver."
What I found strange is that all the reporting on this topic I have not seen any description of what Oliver did was cheating or more relevant he was decribed as a cheat. When he resumes I'm confident he will not be descibed as a confessed cheat. I suppose the assumption is that although he backed the winner he still gave his mount every possible chance
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A person who behaves dishonestly in order to gain an advantage.
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Act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage,
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A person who behaves dishonestly in order to gain an advantage.
he used his phone to make the bet from the jockeys room. Stewards were quick to hammer nikolic about this.. but not much made of it from ollie.
I heard a story, that Damien borrowed Nikolic's phone to get Hunter to place the bet.
The police had a tap on the phone, and passed the information on to Sal Perna.
If he had used any other phone, none of this would have seen the light of day.
The police had a tap on the phone, and passed the information on to Sal Perna.
If he had used any other phone, none of this would have seen the light of day.
.. talk about bad luck. As opposed to MH's huuuggggeee day at geelong, seemed very confident of a few winners recently, and rewarded with nearly 500 large for the day ( or so a taxi driver told me).
Hunter given indemnity
http://www.racingnetwork.com.au/hunter-given-indemnity/tabid/83/newsid/11117/default.aspx
PROFESSIONAL punter Mark Hunter has been given indemnity pending production of more information as a new chapter emerged to the Damien Oliver betting scandal.
On the day that prominent trainer Robert Smerdon was charged with acting in a manner prejudicial to the image, interests and welfare of racing for his part in the Oliver investigation, Rob Montgomery, the Racing Victoria steward who headed up the investigation, explained why Hunter had not been charged.
Hunter, a one-time form analyst for jockeys and racehorse owner, placed a $10,000 credit bet on Oliver's behalf when the champion jockey rang him from the jockey's room at Moonee Valley on October 1, 2010.
Hunter subsequently gave the winning bet money - more than $11,000 - to Smerdon, who met Oliver at his home and gave him the money.
Montgomery said Hunter, who placed the bet with Queensland-based punter Laurie Bricknell, had co-operated with stewards.
Asked why Smerdon had been charged and not Hunter, Montgomery replied: "With Mark Hunter he did help us with our investigations.
"Initially, we took the view that he was a witness not a suspect if you like. He did help us corroborate the evidence with Damien Oliver and some concessions were given to Mr Hunter."
Asked if Hunter had been given indemnity from having to answer a charge or charges, Montgomery replied: "I suppose you could say that.
"But if anything else comes to light - and that's why we are requesting more information - then that's out the window."
When issuing the charge today against Smerdon, RV stewards said inquiries were still active.
Montgomery said the inquiries into Bricknell had been left open until more information was received from Hunter.
He added that he hoped Hunter would furnish the information in the immediate future.
Montgomery said the information requested from Hunter had recently come to light.
"It's all in relation to Miss Octo****. We want some more information basically to tidy up our reports and just get it right," Montgomery said.
"We just need that."
http://www.racingnetwork.com.au/hunter-given-indemnity/tabid/83/newsid/11117/default.aspx
PROFESSIONAL punter Mark Hunter has been given indemnity pending production of more information as a new chapter emerged to the Damien Oliver betting scandal.
On the day that prominent trainer Robert Smerdon was charged with acting in a manner prejudicial to the image, interests and welfare of racing for his part in the Oliver investigation, Rob Montgomery, the Racing Victoria steward who headed up the investigation, explained why Hunter had not been charged.
Hunter, a one-time form analyst for jockeys and racehorse owner, placed a $10,000 credit bet on Oliver's behalf when the champion jockey rang him from the jockey's room at Moonee Valley on October 1, 2010.
Hunter subsequently gave the winning bet money - more than $11,000 - to Smerdon, who met Oliver at his home and gave him the money.
Montgomery said Hunter, who placed the bet with Queensland-based punter Laurie Bricknell, had co-operated with stewards.
Asked why Smerdon had been charged and not Hunter, Montgomery replied: "With Mark Hunter he did help us with our investigations.
"Initially, we took the view that he was a witness not a suspect if you like. He did help us corroborate the evidence with Damien Oliver and some concessions were given to Mr Hunter."
Asked if Hunter had been given indemnity from having to answer a charge or charges, Montgomery replied: "I suppose you could say that.
"But if anything else comes to light - and that's why we are requesting more information - then that's out the window."
When issuing the charge today against Smerdon, RV stewards said inquiries were still active.
Montgomery said the inquiries into Bricknell had been left open until more information was received from Hunter.
He added that he hoped Hunter would furnish the information in the immediate future.
Montgomery said the information requested from Hunter had recently come to light.
"It's all in relation to Miss Octo****. We want some more information basically to tidy up our reports and just get it right," Montgomery said.
"We just need that."
BSH1T.
The stewards know a lot more than that.
what about all the other jocks betting !
smells of cover up !!
The stewards know a lot more than that.
what about all the other jocks betting !
smells of cover up !!
Maybe I have missed something but I haven't seen the important question asked.
Given that you argue that this was a one off incident, why did you suddenly have the inclination to place a $10,000 bet on this particular horse in this particular race, especially as you were riding against the horse you bet on?
Given that you argue that this was a one off incident, why did you suddenly have the inclination to place a $10,000 bet on this particular horse in this particular race, especially as you were riding against the horse you bet on?
just think what that intell would have been worth to the right people
http://www.racingnetwork.com.au/stewards-amend-charge-against-smerdon/tabid/83/newsid/11621/default.aspx
RACING Victoria stewards have amended the charge issued against Robert Smerdon, who faces the Racing Appeals & Disciplinary Board on Thursday.
Smerdon faces a charge of allegedly acting in a manner prejudicial to the image, interest and welfare of racing when he acted as a courier in the Damien Oliver betting scandal.
The Caulfield-based trainer was asked by professional punter Mark Hunter to deliver to Oliver about $11,000 - the proceeds of a winning bet on Miss Octo**** that Oliver asked Hunter to place for him.
In the initial particulars of the charge, stewards allege that Smerdon did not “at any relevant time ask Hunter or Oliver or take any step to determine the reason or purpose for the payment from Hunter to Oliver.”
RV steward Rob Montgomery, who chaired the investigation into the Oliver bet scandal, told Racing Network the charge had been amended to include greater detail.
Included in the amended charge is that Smerdon had knowledge that Hunter was a professional punter as well as the knowledge that Hunter placed substantial bets on behalf of other people.
Also, another addition to the particulars is that Smerdon’s alleged actions “undermined the integrity of thoroughbred racing in Victoria by facilitating illegitimate betting”
Montgomery said another additional particular of the charge related to Smerdon’s alleged conduct which had the potential to “undermine public confidence in the integrity of thoroughbred racing in Victoria.”
David Grace will appear for Smerdon at the hearing of the RAD Board, which will be chaired by Judge Brian Forrest.
RACING Victoria stewards have amended the charge issued against Robert Smerdon, who faces the Racing Appeals & Disciplinary Board on Thursday.
Smerdon faces a charge of allegedly acting in a manner prejudicial to the image, interest and welfare of racing when he acted as a courier in the Damien Oliver betting scandal.
The Caulfield-based trainer was asked by professional punter Mark Hunter to deliver to Oliver about $11,000 - the proceeds of a winning bet on Miss Octo**** that Oliver asked Hunter to place for him.
In the initial particulars of the charge, stewards allege that Smerdon did not “at any relevant time ask Hunter or Oliver or take any step to determine the reason or purpose for the payment from Hunter to Oliver.”
RV steward Rob Montgomery, who chaired the investigation into the Oliver bet scandal, told Racing Network the charge had been amended to include greater detail.
Included in the amended charge is that Smerdon had knowledge that Hunter was a professional punter as well as the knowledge that Hunter placed substantial bets on behalf of other people.
Also, another addition to the particulars is that Smerdon’s alleged actions “undermined the integrity of thoroughbred racing in Victoria by facilitating illegitimate betting”
Montgomery said another additional particular of the charge related to Smerdon’s alleged conduct which had the potential to “undermine public confidence in the integrity of thoroughbred racing in Victoria.”
David Grace will appear for Smerdon at the hearing of the RAD Board, which will be chaired by Judge Brian Forrest.
Oliver will just give him the envelope back..sorted!
...or bob will produce another double figure winner on saturday 
this $10k seems to have been around the block that many times that it probably now qualifies for a Turnover Tax impost
Can't even get the horse's finishing position right.
http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/asset/cms/RAD%20Board/RAD%20Board%20Hearing%20Result%20and%20Reasons%20-%20R%20Smerdon%2020130213.pdf
Oliver rode the second favourite in the race, Europa Point, which finished second.
http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/asset/cms/RAD%20Board/RAD%20Board%20Hearing%20Result%20and%20Reasons%20-%20R%20Smerdon%2020130213.pdf
Oliver rode the second favourite in the race, Europa Point, which finished second.
MICHELLE Payne is one of three jockeys who will face a steward’s inquiry next week over bets they allegedly placed.
Payne, Michael Walker and Anthony Darmanin will be asked to explain a series of bets in accounts under their resctive names.
Racing Victoria uncovered the three jockey’s alleged bets during a routine audit of wagering service providers accounts last year.
Late tonight Racing Victoria issued a press statement where it noted that all three jockeys would appear before a steward’s inquiry next Tuesday.
Payne had three bets, totalling $450 in an account bearing her name with Sportsbet.com.au.
Included among Payne’s bets was doubles revolving around Presvis in the Singapore International Cup and So You Think in the Irish Tatts Cup.
She also had a multi bet where she parlayed So You Think, NBA club Miami Heat and four Premier League soccer games.
All bets were unsuccessful.
Darmanin also placed two bets, worth a total of $100, in a Sportsbet.com.au account on multi bets including jockey challenges, including one at Cranbourne where he had two rides.
His bets were unsuccessful.
Walker outlayed a total of $57 in four bets in a Tatts Bet account under his name. They included a $50 win bet, two $3 box Trifectas and a $1 Trifecta.
He did not ride at any of the venues where he placed bets.
Payne, Michael Walker and Anthony Darmanin will be asked to explain a series of bets in accounts under their resctive names.
Racing Victoria uncovered the three jockey’s alleged bets during a routine audit of wagering service providers accounts last year.
Late tonight Racing Victoria issued a press statement where it noted that all three jockeys would appear before a steward’s inquiry next Tuesday.
Payne had three bets, totalling $450 in an account bearing her name with Sportsbet.com.au.
Included among Payne’s bets was doubles revolving around Presvis in the Singapore International Cup and So You Think in the Irish Tatts Cup.
She also had a multi bet where she parlayed So You Think, NBA club Miami Heat and four Premier League soccer games.
All bets were unsuccessful.
Darmanin also placed two bets, worth a total of $100, in a Sportsbet.com.au account on multi bets including jockey challenges, including one at Cranbourne where he had two rides.
His bets were unsuccessful.
Walker outlayed a total of $57 in four bets in a Tatts Bet account under his name. They included a $50 win bet, two $3 box Trifectas and a $1 Trifecta.
He did not ride at any of the venues where he placed bets.
They sound like duds...I assume their accounts have not been restricted yet
Michelle has fired off this tweet tonight.
I think they should have at least waited until the enquiry was held before they release the story#notwhatracingneeds
I think they should have at least waited until the enquiry was held before they release the story#notwhatracingneeds
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