cup day betting

Lets may show his ratings to the forum, just to prove he's the "bigger" man.

I will not be investing one dollar on said event.

I no longer have any emotional attachment to the Cup. It's just a chest thumping, feather preening event for the VRC.

yep, same here. It's a tourism drawcard, a corporate swillfest.

reminds me, where are my Suiss Multi Krill Blaster Vitamins

The days of smalltime trainers having a battlers chance in The Cup with a cheapie........history

funny - im feeling a bit that way too - i get a day off and will watch it of course but thats where it ends.
Until the handicapper starts giving these imports what they deserve the race will continue to be handicap with 'special conditions"

last time i saw anything that resembled what i loved about the cup was the trainer of the peoples horse for that years cup- leica falcon... in his interview he was so nervous and 'hickville' he just replied 'yairss, yairss, yairss-yairss '... to every question.  then the last question the interviewer was looking for an out as it not goint that well and the trainer suddenly replies with a ..'oh my word'... classic stuff. miss the stories tbh.

Well who wins it anyway?

IMO Red Cadeux should be 5/1 favourite Reggie.

Beaten a bees dick last yr. Has the pull in the weights.  What you don't know is how he measures up against the unseen foreign raiders.

Now we all know how good duneden is...........if red cadeux repeats last yrs run then he wins. Advantage for him is this yr he is set for the race, last yr he was racing to qualify for the Cup so they have an advantage in that regard.

Again, how does he measure up against the unseen, Mount Athos has beaten the handicapper according to the foreigners, Cumani has had 2 seconds in the cup so he cant/shouldnt be taken lightly.

I'm going to bet on what we've already seen and hopefully thats going to be good enough.

I'm still waiting for Let's Derby Day tips

Wont be far off the mark Powerfan.....im still on Dunaden all the way here....if you get a minute youtube the Hardwicke Stakes....Dunaden ran 2nd and RC ran 3rd....Dunaden in all sorts of trouble as they hit the straight....ran up the bum of something, had to go around it....totally lost momentum....at this stage RC drew level and was clear....Dunaden got going in a matter of a few strides and gobbled RC up......then we have the 3.5kgs to think about tomorrow.....bring RC right back into it....i honestly dont think the weight will stop Dunaden.....incredible turn of foot when called upon....just wants to win.....just loved the Caulfield Cup win.......putting Mt Athos into the multiples...the fact that D.Weld wanted this horse bad is enough for me......roughy for 3rd is Zabeelionaire....not enough credit for its last 2 starts.....really surprised its not getting sproooked a bit more....nice place bet here....light weight with Froggy = big show!

Good luck all!

Reggie

dont have to look it up i seen it at the time, jock missed the run, held up, ran up their arse, finally saw daylight and stormed home.. made him a living certainty for his next start with c williams in the saddle (so i backed him) and that little ****er rode it upside down so he would go to the melb cup and not run in the arc.

Anyway, I've decided that 59 and 58 means the top 2 cant win. 

Would it surprise me if either won, no.  I look at it like this, If they were all at level weights I think Americain is the best stayer, I've got absolutely no doubt about that.  He couldn't win with 58 last yr and Duneden has to carry 59 this yr.

Red Cadeux is the one we have seen and we know its well weighted (provided he reproduces last yrs run) You'd think whatever beats him will win.

Mount Athos - they say he has beaten the handicapper.

Galileo's Choice - lightly raced, Got a feeling D Weld has done his best to beat the handicapper.

Ethiopia - Can blow them all out.  Is a high quality stayer I have no doubt, butttttt im not sure he has had the prep for a Melb Cup.  I have a feeling the connections r too excited abt his "good run" in what was a very very very poor quality cox plate.(was the cox plate really that poor? - If alcopop ran in the cox plate instead of the caulf cup he wins it and he's a f'ken handicapper just like green moon and u seen where green moon finished in the cox plate. So yeah i think so.)

Zabeelionaire was poor in the Caulf Cup i thought. Pass.

My Quest For Peace - Thought he gave up too quick in the Caulfield Cup to be considered a chance in the Melb Cup. 

Maluckyday Best of the Locals. For those that want to bet with their hearts and not their heads then this bloke is a live chance for "Australia".  I'm expecting a top 5 finish from him. Whether that is 1st or 5th i do not have a clue but i think he is going to be thereabouts.

Kelinni - Lightweight Lexus winners are always a chance. 


Niwot 80/1... I'll be chucking a cpl dollars on him at those odds.  Last yr won the lexus and went into the cup as an $8 chance was it - race wasnt really run to suit and he was backing up.  This yr unwanted and gets back to flemington as a fresh horse, as he did in his Lexus win.  If he pulls out a run like he did in the Lexus then he is in the finish. Yeah it's like playing bingo but $5 at 80/1 isn't the dumbest bet im ever going to make.

I thought maybe Kinetics or Prior Baron had a good chance....

Joel.........sometimes u come up with some really funny stuff.  That was a really poor effort, i expect better from u.

if this was any race but the melbourne cup you would put your pen straight thru it in big black lettere "to hard" on to the next race form. what a cracker of a race, maybe the best cup field for 10's of years. so with my very ordinary record with MCs here's my 2 bobs..............opposing the 2 top weights as i always do in this race, although i think Americain is the best stayer in the race just cant come at 58+.....respecting Mount Athos with 54 and Cumani's endless quest to get hold of this horse just for this race, putting in my tri's....... think the on speed horses will try and really stack this field up (glencadam gold,mourayan,voila ici)  trying to make it hard for the back markers to run on. so for me i'm looking for something at odds sitting just off the leaders. My quest for peace, green moon, and the light weight Kelinni to position well and burst to the front just after turning into the straight and hanging on to beat all the swoopers coming wide from the tail........if My Lucky day and Americain make their runs together which is the way it is mapped then MLD has no chance to out sprint Americain.

by the way Mount Athos will start fav

Market in itself to see who starts fave. I think late money comes for Dunaden, starts 6/1, Americain out to 8/1, Mount Athos 13/2.

For what it's worth my top 4.

1. My Quest for Peace
2. Dunaden
3. Lights of Heaven
4. Americain

I'm going to give out 255,024 different sets of top 4 selections to different people. Someone will think I am a genius tomorrow arvo.

3.70 on Tattsbet meldown is huge overs. Can i have a monkey on that

Also can i lay Lets at 1/100. Some micro chance he will have the guilts from all his aftetiming and admit he didnt back a winner.

Kye, you need to read the fine print on that bet, it clearly states "1 hour before the race". No chance it hanging on for that long :)

Ok so the clock is runnning down for the Lets genius cup summary. You blokes only have another 24 hours to find out

Well I wanted brigate

But now say Lights of Heaven!!! go nolen

Not just the europeans getting in light. Maykybe got in light for a 2nd and 3rd. Agree struffle to work out the weights of the higher Europeans especially in relation to some previous runners - although race has changed a lot in last 20 yrs (vintage crop weight increase). Anyway i'll be on Mourayan, with mt athos and galileos chioce the main dangers.

Not just the europeans getting in light. Maykybe got in light for a 2nd and 3rd. Agree struffle to work out the weights of the higher Europeans especially in relation to some previous runners - although race has changed a lot in last 20 yrs (vintage crop weight increase). Anyway i'll be on Mourayan, with mt athos and galileos chioce the main dangers.

bit harsh saying mayke diva got in light imo

she carried 55½ in her 2nd when she beat vinnie roe in 2004 .. he carried 58

the following year vinnie carried 58 again and makybe also had 58 for her 3rd

her first win was on a sweet 51kg ... but she hadn't won a race that campaign (ran 4th in the caulfield) .. and didn;t win a race in the autumn of that year also

Oh of course thats absolute just comon knowledge makybe diva got it light, lets not forget they even watered down the track for her.

ffs lol ... they watered the course for the overseas horses ... as they have been want to do

... oh that's right makybe diva was in the field as well ... so it was her specifically and exclusively they waterered it for 

Yes they did , specifically :)

still respect you bro , but sorry your wrong, and ur a top person, but they wet that track for the diva,

anyways lights of heaven for the cup can i get back to back cox plate and the cup i hope so lol,

ur a top person thebas, but they wet that track for diva plus packer had big bucks on it ,

gave u 5 stars for your reply of just an emotion comment , ur one of nice people on her lol

so who are you bcking for the cup thebas ?

Good luck , Mike

Give yourself 5 stars too. lol

bff ... they water it each year for the overseas horses mate ... they won't come here otherwise ... imagine an upgrade to a GOOD 2 lol .. they'd all SCRATCH

it had nothing to with anyone betting on anything in the biggest race of our season imo ... 

the track was 'slow' at the first race ... and 'dead' by the cup ... the new zealander was a duffer in the wet ... yet he ran a slashing 2nd and wouldn't have placed on a wet track ..

the edge was taken off the hardness we can get on a good track compared to what the overseas horses are used to ... as they always do


now today i like the french horses naturally ... red cadeaux cut me out of the tri last year so will put it in also this year ... along with maluckyday in the tri's ...

all the best today BFF on what should be a terrific meeting

Why is it so quiet?

shhhh, we hunting wabbits

been a looooooooooooooonnngg day
even managed to pop into work for a luncheon and polished off 1.5kgs of prawns

I bet everyday on various sports bets but I never bet on the melbourne cup. Look at the top 4...never heard of any of them...didn't know they were in the race. All I heard pre race from the talking heads was dunaden...maluckyday...americain...red cadeaux...blah blah. Easy to get sucked into that and pick one of them. I've said it before and I'll say it again...You get a long face when you bet on horses.

i didnt see all the races but did horses up front seem to be at an advantage?
That being the case, why? and what will thursday bring?

Nov 6, 2012 -- 7:00AM, wooky wrote:

I bet everyday on various sports bets but I never bet on the melbourne cup. Look at the top 4...never heard of any of them...didn't know they were in the race. All I heard pre race from the talking heads was dunaden...maluckyday...americain...red cadeaux...blah blah. Easy to get sucked into that and pick one of them. I've said it before and I'll say it again...You get a long face when you bet on horses.

i'm gonna go out a limb here and say if you don't bet on horses of course you've never heard of them

Wooky....like a lot of people you're just gonna have to learn the hard way....never bet on an animal that can talk.

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if this was any race but the melbourne cup you would put your pen straight thru it in big black lettere "to hard" on to the next race form. what a cracker of a race, maybe the best cup field for 10's of years. so with my very ordinary record with MCs here's my 2 bobs..............opposing the 2 top weights as i always do in this race, although i think Americain is the best stayer in the race just cant come at 58+.....respecting Mount Athos with 54 and Cumani's endless quest to get hold of this horse just for this race, putting in my tri's....... think the on speed horses will try and really stack this field up (glencadam gold,mourayan,voila ici)  trying to make it hard for the back markers to run on. so for me i'm looking for something at odds sitting just off the leaders. My quest for peace, green moon, and the light weight Kelinni to position well and burst to the front just after turning into the straight and hanging on to beat all the swoopers coming wide from the tail........if My Lucky day and Americain make their runs together which is the way it is mapped then MLD has no chance to out sprint Americain.


FFS WERE'S THE LOVE, DO I HAVE TO COME AROUND AND PLACE THE BETS FOR YOU