Big Cox Plate Race Day thread - come one, come all

wtf was i thinking putting up my formguide before the race

pentasia

took the 15 whats it doing in sydney

Lucky Last at the Valley

Zurella should appreciate the drop back to mares class.

PRETTY AS PINS--to try and salvage something out of the wreck

spirit song from tavarnelle

Im ruined---Again

place ok Budd

both horses off a 7 day backup... $50 quinella if you spotted it.

sorry ... got that wrong. hi belle off 7..

LETHAL JONES--at ass-cott

I will email it to MP who will confirm when the market was created and modified.

And what is that going to do?

Second this so called clown basically said the favourite Green Moon couldn't win  and marketed it 12.5 stated that Ocean Park should be a clear cut favourite at 5.5 said ethiopia was a very good chance and that both all too hard  and Pierro would run very well and had them marked at 7.85 and 6 bucks respectively. I would have thought that's a pretty accurate summation of the race but hey that's just me.

yep...the same summary will be in tomorrow's paper...and just as useful.
Thick.......as a brick

It probably was. But an accurate summary of the race is not very useful after the race. Doesn't matter when it was written.

In the Country Cup at Ascot I have Amelia Storm priced at 1.25. I believe it will beat the outsider Zuboyne and there'll be a photo for third.

I missed a cup????????????? ****

Yes Joel...and if you had used my incredibly accurate ratings you would now be as happy as Lets Elope.

Only if I had the same bookie as him

Like 10--MERIMBULA--at asscott

ruined

Oct 27, 2012 -- 9:04AM, Lets Elope wrote:

Second this so called clown basically said the favourite Green Moon couldn't win

No doubt it isn't useful Joel but if the likes of yourself and certain other forumites hadn't been such smart arrses, having consistently questioned my integrity  and been downright insulting and rude on a consistent basis over a very long period I would in all probability be happy to post this sort of thing prior to the race.

I am merely making a point to highlight the fact that all of those so called geniuses who claimed I had no idea, couldn't have been more wrong if they tried.

How do you like the egg that you lot now have on your faces geniuses to be served up, poached, scrambled or sunnyside up.

Why don't you make a rule for yourself. Unless you post something before a race then refrain from posting anything after a race. That way you may be seen to have some integrity. Until you start doing that then you can expect to be a figure of fun.

In an egg-cup with soldiers

Better add instructions, Lets. They probably couldn't crack it without them.

He's already explained!

Rudeness means..............NO MARKETS FOR YOU!!!

O posted ocean park before the race infact yesterday in a nice  big post saying going for ocean park lol :)

Yes, Mike. It was nice and big, but crayon was a little OTT .... imo

Why do you keep calling me mike ? spoon?

So many people with dual forum personalities, Mike. I do try to keep up.

Cheers

I only joined in July?, spoon, I hope you find that spoon for yoru meds ur trippin me out a bit ey lol

lol, find the spooon..

good one, Mike

THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON - He's already explained!

Rudeness means..............NO MARKETS FOR YOU!!!

ur a funny b@stard spoon but not as funny as Lets. 

You couldn't make this **** up......"I am merely making a point to highlight the fact that all of those so called geniuses who claimed I had no idea, couldn't have been more wrong if they tried. "

and the proof Lets has an idea.....he's tipped us all into the winner an hour after the race.

Lets you're the biggest after timer on the forum, yes your analysis was correct but it doesn't change the fact you're a perennial after timer

i've been roaming these tipping threads from day dot and one thing has always been the same, you've always after timed, especially at Western Australian racing venues

if you actually put yourself on the same level as everyone else instead of thinking you are the genius wiz tipster who never has a bad day, you might gain some respectability and more important some credibility, you're the kinda guy who makes those who don't bet think that punting is all sunshine and roses, purely because you only mention your wins not your losses

what if you didn't pick the winner (highly unlikely given you mentioned half a dozen horses who you'd be backing) but still, if you had not backed the winner, your silence would be deafening

for starters it was posted not even 5min after the race and that market was finished 16 hours ago a fact that MP will no doubt confirm when he checks the excel file attached to the e-mail I sent him, unlike some  I don't lie, I have no need too.
Amazing how it's the sound of silence yet again from the rest of the peanut gallery, eh spoon but then again I clearly have no idea I have only got the two of the hardest races on the Australian calendar correct again.

No I like to analyse post race mate what I've done right and in particular what I've done wrong and why and apparently according to you clowns that's the equivalent to committing a war crime.

I've never hidden my losses or my winning bets that's been proven time and time again and I've declared plenty of horses in WA pre race so again that's either an outright lie on your behalf or an attempt accidental or otherwise to mislead people, I declared luckygray on debut at 8 or nine bucks from its trials and said it was a smart horse in the making before it even raced, told people about dreamaway,ranger, mr moet, chester road etc, etc and have also posted heaps of good price winners on here, I declared linton first up in adelaide in the autumn etc etc.

I don't have to justify anything second, however I am owed some due respect and perhaps an apology from several people on here but I wouldn't expect that it will be forthcoming, which is indicative of their true character but who knows maybe they'll show some intestinal fortitude and admit that they were that far off the mark about my ability or lack thereof that  it isn't funny but somehow I can't see that happening.

I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong but I am a good judge and my judgement more often than not is correct and that's the whole bloody idea I would have thought.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well!!!

It doesn't get more gracious than that.

He's even extending the olive branch to the peanut gallery....again.

Bring a tear to a dead dogs eye, it would.

Line up, to apologise, admit the error of your ways, repent and ye shall be forgiven.

Whoopi, you may bow first!

I am not worried Spoon I know I'm just wasting my breath but I was happy to help people in the first place but I am not going to sit back and take the sort of craap I've put up with from some on here without making them them look the fools they clearly are at times. If they want to be smart arrses I'm more than happy to just stick to doing my own thing and if the truth be known I'm better off doing that because Im allowing myself to be distracted from the job at hand.

Lets,

How can u make anyone but urself look a fool when u post ur "proof" that "you picked a winner" after the race.

If you come her Wed the 7th of November I will give you a formguide for Tuesdays Melbourne Cup.

Just for you, I'll give you the first 10 in order over the line, while i'm feeling generous, I'll even add a quick writeup about each horses chances.

Funny huh??

That's what you just did.

Don't think so as have the proof when it was done mate and it was aimed at certain individuals who are now suffering severely from foot in mouth disease.

Anyway I can always go back to counting my Cox Plate and Caulfield Cup winnings.

I havea nice big post clear as day ocean park so i expect never questioned about my tipping ability again thanks :)

He taught us all a lesson about knocking him for aftertiming by....aftertiming. Some more wonderful Lets Logic. There should be an ebook of this stuff.

Lets, noone is owed due respect, you have to earn it. In your eyes you think you've earnt it but I am here to tell you that being an after timing mug does not warrant owed respect, it warrants an owed uppercut.

That is the most arrogant statement I have ever seen.

TINS, what the **** has happened to you, the guy who once had MAX on his knees seething, you've gone from that.. to worshiping the ultimate after timer. You've lowered yourself, that's right. LOWERED yourself, you should be ashamed.

Tins 's Lets

Does he LIH? Or is he the kid in the schoolyard egging on the fat kid to ask the pretty girl out because he knows what'll happen next?

That's hilarious coming from a bloke who's been on here since July 2012 rabbiting about on how due respect is earned, lets cut to the real point  of Second's argumetn he's being made to feel very small because I said and was proven correct that his pick Green Moon had virtually no chance of winning no matter how the race was run and was in fact massive unders. More importantly it then pointed out why it had no chance of winning, lacks the point to point speed necessary to win a Cox Plate around MV and won't be able to hold its position at the start and as a result it won't be able to take advantage of its good draw.

Well done Lets, I am sorry I was wrong. Your assessment posted less than 5 minutes after the race was spot on and I will walk away from this argument with my tail between my legs.

Oct 28, 2012 -- 2:58AM, Lets Elope wrote:

That's hilarious coming from a bloke who's been on here since July 2012 rabbiting about on how due respect is earned, lets cut to the real point

he's deluded, he thinks I have been here since July, someone inform him of my previous identity

yes I didn't back the winner but I have enough guts to put myself in that position, you on the otherhand, noone sees you posting unless you've just backed the winner, you always explain your reasons after the race, never before

and by the way, don't try and pretend you're a know all, you backed 5-6 horses in that race, why not back 1? I know why

because you have got no idea

The funniest thing is that he thinks he's proven his point by saying he only posted 5 minutes after the race..... (Joel your point was too obtuse for Lets to understand)

if you wanna prove to us all how good you really are, why don't you MAKE A THREAD, declaring the WINNER of the MELBOURNE CUP in ADVANCE of the race

I know you won't but there's how you can earn some respect, you certainly are not owed it

I knew you were someone else in a previous incarnation, one who's a chronic abuser of anyone who thinks outside the "accepted" logic like myself, you can't handle the fact and have never been able too  that my judgment is consistently better than yours and like I said the people tht count know how good a judge I am and in the end that's all that really matters, just thought I'd give you a chance to see why my judgment is respected by those in the know.

Also I suggest you learn to watch your video's a little bit closer as it was obvious when you watched the replays over and over again that Green Moon had very little hope of holding a forward position at the start and from then it was always going to be in trouble as doesn't possess the necessary point to point speed. In saying that it obviously wasn't quite right yesterday as it had no zip whatsoever but it still wouldn't have won irregardless.

I'm not debating the fact Green Moon couldn't hold a spot, that was the risk taken, I took the risk and lost, that's racing

doesn't change things though, you're still an after timing mug

I already have tipped the Melbourne Cup winner in the past on here pretty sure I said dunaden would win after it won the Geelong cup last year. Even if it had held a spot it was massively vulnerable to being outsprinted around the Valley you go back through past Cox Plate winners and there is generally one common denominator all have big point to point speed, you have to be ale to really lpick up at some stage and all of these past winners had that element in common, even pinker pinker when held up and given the right run could really sprint. Maldivian probably the slight exception because of the ridiculously easy run he had in front but even he could accelerate when required. And before you say Northerly didn't possess that, Northerly could explode when held up back in the field if ridden that way and did on a numer of occasions earlier in his career but was also capable of carving out relentless sectionals when on the speed that no other horse could match. Not too many horses were capable of catching Sunline after she had a nice run in front and exploded the way she did in the first Feehan(dato chin nam now)  like Northerly did when he mowed her down with Ollie up in the 2001 version of that race.

2011     Pinker Pinker     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
2010     So You Think     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
2009     So You Think     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
2008     Maldivian     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
2007     El Segundo     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
2006     Fields Of Omagh     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
2005     Makybe Diva     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
2004     Savabeel     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
2003     Fields Of Omagh     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
2002     Northerly     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
2001     Northerly     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
2000     Sunline     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
1999     Sunline     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
1998     Might And Power     Cox Plate     Group 1     2040m
1997     Dane Ripper

There's another common denominator....you backed them all

Meltdown in ward 3

Sadly Joel that's not the case I was on Jimmy Choux for the national debt and did declare it on here for weeks in advance that it was clearly the horse to beat, I was on So You Think the second time it didnt take einstein to realise he was the bigest certainty I had ever seen in a Cox Plate, I should have been on  the first time as I backed in the guineas the start beforehand but I underestimated the great man Bart, I wasn't on Maldivian, I was on El Segundo when tt won and was on track to cheer him home, he juat stood out in the yard that day and looked sensational. I was on him and fields , the previous year even though El Segundo was  a massive result and Field was a good winner for me but nowhere near what El Segundo should have been worth and if farking Gauci could ride it would have won instead of missing by an eyelash, the diva picked herself, I was in europe on holiday when savabeel won and unfortunately had Vinnie Roe going for the national debt at 50's on here in the antepost betting in the Cup that year only to run into a freak in makybe diva in the Cup.

In 2003 I back fields and defier, I loved both horses, and I had the quinella for a good result the following year when I was priveleged to be on track to see Northerly beat one of the best fields ever assembled for a Cox Plate wehn he beat Defier and Grandera and was  at Ascot in Perth cheering home Northerly for a big result when he won his first Cox Plate, Sunline picked herself in her first two Cox Plates as Might and Power us the previous year and have no idea what I backed in dane rippers year possibly filante but I can't be sure but it sure as hell wasn't Dane Ripper and Ollie.

As I said Joel, you have to stop being obtuse....You just wasted half an hour of the poor sod's time formulating and composing his response.

i CAN'T BELEIVE HOW BAD IAM AT THIS.................. would someone inform ME of seconds previous identity

First

was there a firstcomming really?

Nope
there was/is a secongcoming but I don't believe its him....some people seem to think it was the poster known as educeee I believe.

i've noticed there hasnt been as many blow inns, with firsts post and fcked names, they must have put a plug in that loop hole, only genuine accounts can post now

That would explain a lot, I can; believe I am wasting my time trying to explain something to educee.

They stopped new registrations a few months ago because someone kept abusing it on Chit Chat

joel u are closing in on 5 posts a day for over 8years, no wonder u are still at school, i'm tipping u would have been the little kid that hung with all us groovers because u made us laugh with your one liners

I can't believe it either....Lets usually reserves his abuse for the deceased.

What's Chit chat?

I guess I have nothing better to do....however if you hit submit a few times really quickly you can get your post count up a bit

OH I see...Its' another forum.

I guess I have nothing better to do....however if you hit submit a few times really quickly you can get your post count up a bit

I guess I have nothing better to do....however if you hit submit a few times really quickly you can get your post count up a bit

lol

lol

lol

Oct 28, 2012 -- 4:23AM, Lets Elope wrote:

Sadly Joel that's not the case I was on Jimmy Choux for the national debt and did declare it on here for weeks in advance that it was clearly the horse to beat, I was on So You Think the second time it didnt take einstein to realise he was the bigest certainty I had ever seen in a Cox Plate, I should have been on  the first time as I backed in the guineas the start beforehand but I underestimated the great man Bart, I wasn't on Maldivian, I was on El Segundo when tt won and was on track to cheer him home, he juat stood out in the yard that day and looked sensational. I was on him and fields , the previous year even though El Segundo was  a massive result and Field was a good winner for me but nowhere near what El Segundo should have been worth and if farking Gauci could ride it would have won instead of missing by an eyelash, the diva picked herself, I was in europe on holiday when savabeel won and unfortunately had Vinnie Roe going for the national debt at 50's on here in the antepost betting in the Cup that year only to run into a freak in makybe diva in the Cup.In 2003 I back fields and defier, I loved both horses, and I had the quinella for a good result the following year when I was priveleged to be on track to see Northerly beat one of the best fields ever assembled for a Cox Plate wehn he beat Defier and Grandera and was  at Ascot in Perth cheering home Northerly for a big result when he won his first Cox Plate, Sunline picked herself in her first two Cox Plates as Might and Power us the previous year and have no idea what I backed in dane rippers year possibly filante but I can't be sure but it sure as hell wasn't Dane Ripper and Ollie.

Thrilling novel, can't wait to read the next installment.

Curb your rudeness and I'll get you a  first print copy.............autographed!

as long as it's a soft paper, I could use a nice piece of paper to wipe my ass with

My selections:

Best of the day OCEAN PARK, maybe quinella with All Too Hard

Best Lay - ITS A DUNDEEL, won't handle the Valley

Best Value - FREERETURN, looks a huge chance in this.

Quaddie - skinny for mine 11 one out / 7 / 9 / like 5 last leg, throw in 9 just in case

Fk I have a feeling I am in for a big day

You posted in the wrong thread Danehill, should've been the Joke of the Day thread.....

Oh wait...you're serious lol

WOW Danehill

Awesome tipping!!! Congrats on teaching them a lesson mate.

Cheers, was a good day.

are you taking the piss Dane?

Are you serious SC?

well maybe you posted it somewhere else, knowing you like I do, i'm gonna say you're taking the piss

Yes, absolute p*ss take.

ok you're definately taking the piss

Just read this thread this morning and found it rather amusing

THhought I'd throw in my two cents.

by the way, call me ed

WD Dane, but you forgot the 5000 word explanation that nobody with an I.Q above 20 bothers to read.

not only a champion tipster but he must have the memory of an elephant to be able to reflect on all that stuff from a dozen years ago

please...that's nothing for a bloke who can remember Kyneton maidens from 18 months ago...and what he backed in said maidens.

silly me
yes, he is certainly a rare talent