Does anyone remember the lotto pick show? system group of people pick?

the mathematics of it is sort of sound, if you had 1000 people picking numbers, then the common numbers combining

You almost certainly have to be improving your odds?

I definatly remember seeing the show,

Simply by the maths instead of 1 person you are now 1000 times the chance of what a person would have wrote, thus increasing your chance from 1 billion to maybe 500 million or less the more people,

thoughts?

I remember the show though had about 30 people picking numbers, writing them down i think they might have been focusing on common numbers aswell and picking of the common numbers. Could be wrong hope someone else remembers this on the news lol

um nope, don't remember the show and at the risk of being compared to a wide mouth bass - it doesn't matter how many people pick the numbers, each one still has a 1 in 45 chance of being drawn, 1 in 44, 1 in 43 etc depending what type of lotto

there was definitaly a show though womblez i remember they picked the numbers,

um it was uk lotto, and i think they focused on comon numbers to choose from also ,

but yes wombolz you hav eth point i defintatly seen the show though

if i remember it was 30 people

it was a uk lotto

Joke thread?  Here is my view anyway.

As has been stated, common numbers does not increase your numbers being drawn out in any way.

The only possible thing that it can do, is on the off chance that your numbers do come out, you have to share 1st division with many more people, meaning your risk/reward ratio is much much much worse.

Lets say 1st div was 10 million.  Would you rather play with your 1/8+million chance of winning and win 10 mil?  Or play with your 1/8+million chance of winning and take home 333,000?  I know which one I would prefer.

The number of people picking the numbers does not in any way affect the probability of a successful outcome IMO.
The numbers are random, and just because consecutive numbers are rare does not mean they are impossible.
If there were 8 million draws you would see consecutive numbers quite often.
Think about it for a moment. We only see 52 draws per year. It would take 153846 years to see them all. In that time you could see 1,2,3,4,5,6 come up at least once.

To reiterate, how many people are picking the numbers has no effect on what numbers come out or if they are more or less likely to win.

Mister roulette probability expert probably doesn't understand the maths involved, so I will happily correct his figures and suggest that his "years" are actually 156636 to cover all the different combinations (assuming the 52 draws a year)  But then what is 2790 years.  Close enough is good enough right?

Just to help you out Snake, you work it out like this.  6/45 * 5/44 * 4/43 * 3/42 * 2/41 * 1/40 to get 8,145,060 different possible combinations. (Helps to know so you don't just believe what you are told).

If there is anything else you need help with just let me know. 

But for you bettingforfun, if you buy into any of the theories of power of the mind, etc etc, here is a little vid you may be interested in.  Nothing to do with lotto, but everything to do with the power of thought, which I guess is something to do with your whole power of thought in creating winning lotto numbers. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYYXq1Ox4sk
Actually quite interesting.

And here is something else to watch from somebody you no doubt know, but speaks very well and knows his stuff.  Makes reference to the atoms that move and are still at the same time, and the particles that change just because you are looking at them.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2xzIgdD_XA
Very funny guy, and has some great podcasts out too just speaking about all kinds of stuff.  Check him out.

BJT,

You really are a nasty piece of sh!t. And you know one tenth of what you think you know about anything.
What I said was perfectly correct. The odds of a 2 falling after a 1 for example is precisely the same as a 40 or any other number.
Now refute that d!ckhead.

i'm not saying the show didn't exist bff - i'm sure it did just i don't agree with it's premise

Morning, thanks for your comments, IT wasn't like a daily show it was this one off special of this maths guy or physics getting a group of people in a room choose a number ect like i said and he got the numbers,

still can't find it on  youtube oh well,

If i remember correctly it might have been on today tonight.

Also something interesting , is that the lotto is won quite often like usually weekly, since there are 22 million people in Australia , the odds would be more about 1 in 30 million , not 1 in 1 billion chance of winning lotto?

If it was a UK show you might want to ask on Chit Chat.

btw there is one guy on here that if picks the numbers then the odds of them coming out go up substantially...

Bloke named Derren Brown, Magician, Illusionist.

"Predicted"? the UK lottery.



Event 1: How to Win the Lottery

The first show, a live event broadcast on Wednesday 9 September 2009, appeared to show Derren Brown predicting that night's lottery draw. This was conducted by a set of white balls lined up, facing a wall, next to a television displaying a live feed from BBC One as they aired the live draw. After the draw, Brown wrote the results on a piece of card prior to turning the white balls around, facing the camera, to reveal that both the numbers on the balls and the numbers on the card were the same. The winning numbers were: 2, 11, 23, 28, 35 and 39. The bonus was number 15, however, his predictions did not include the bonus ball.

On Friday 11 September at 21:00, a second show aired, which stated three possibilities for winning the lottery. The first, faking a winning ticket, was quickly dismissed, and the majority of the programme described Brown's use of automatic writing and crowd psychology to appear to predict the numbers ahead of time. Through a series of experiments and attempts at explaining complex psychology, while avoiding the underlying maths, Brown suggested that he may have predicted numbers using a phenomenon known as the "Wisdom of Crowds". He revealed 24 volunteers who, after a number of previous sessions, were shown to apparently predict the correct numbers by perusing a board filled with previous lottery numbers and guessing that week's through automatic writing. The show concluded with a brief description of how the lottery results could have been ****, with Brown firmly stating that this would have been illegal and that he would always claim the stunt was simply a trick.

The "Wisdom of Crowds" explanation received considerable negative criticism from the press and leading academics[1][2] with one journalist writing in The Times "Derren Brown turns from most intriguing man on television to the most irritating".[3] Publicist Max Clifford remarked that the stunt would have "put millions on [Brown's] value in the years to come".[4] Philosopher A C Grayling wrote that "the hour-long 'explanation' was itself a trick, and not as good as the lottery trick itself."[5] Camelot, the company who run the National Lottery, congratulated Brown on his "illusion", and reminded the public that it was "impossible to affect the outcome of the draw".[6] This trick attracted widespread attention, and a number of alternative explanations were proposed,[1][7] including the use of a split screen camera trick, or a false wall.[1] The Daily Mail concluded that using a false wall seemed the most likely method,[8] while a poll for the Guardian concluded that a split screen was most likely.[9]
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Pity he didn't buy a ticket in it, as he would have been the only winner.

Thanks AFL -

I think thats the one the second show with a bunch of people "wisdom of crowds rings a bell aswell"

So was it a trick was it then?

Glad someone found it lol, that second show seems like the one i seen on today tonight wisdom of crowds