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If Ecuador elevate Ecuadorian Citizen, Julian Assange to Diplomatic Status, surely the United Kingdom can't stop him traveling back to his homeland, Ecuador?
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dont rely too heavily on julia or fossil bob for info imo ...
Australian diplomats believe Washington is targeting WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange for possible prosecution, according to documents obtained by a newspaper.
[b]A raft of diplomatic cables, released under freedom of information laws[/b and obtained by the newspaper, show Australia has been keeping tabs on Washington's interest in Assange and has no objection to the potential extradition, the newspaper said.
Despite Foreign Minister Bob Carr's insistence that the US is not pushing for Assange to be pursued over the leaks, the documents show he and Prime Minister Julia Gillard have been briefed on the issue, The Age reported.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/world/14585544/australia-believes-us-wants-to-prosecute-assange-report/
Australian diplomats believe Washington is targeting WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange for possible prosecution, according to documents obtained by a newspaper.
[b]A raft of diplomatic cables, released under freedom of information laws[/b and obtained by the newspaper, show Australia has been keeping tabs on Washington's interest in Assange and has no objection to the potential extradition, the newspaper said.
Despite Foreign Minister Bob Carr's insistence that the US is not pushing for Assange to be pursued over the leaks, the documents show he and Prime Minister Julia Gillard have been briefed on the issue, The Age reported.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/world/14585544/australia-believes-us-wants-to-prosecute-assange-report/
Thebas, would you protest outside Federal or State Parliament House if he's extradited to the US?
I would ...
I would ...
no ...
maybe if it was on a non-race day ... but then the next non-race day is christmas day ... and i will otherwise occupied that day
maybe if it was on a non-race day ... but then the next non-race day is christmas day ... and i will otherwise occupied that day
I WOULD ... protest against our deceiver julia and her cohort fossil bob ... but again i will be busy that day
no comment TQ ... but my tongue really wants to 
I think the whole situation is a put on, it is funny how he reports all this info then they want him for sexual assault.
My guess is the US are behind the whole lot and are just waiting to grab him.
My guess is the US are behind the whole lot and are just waiting to grab him.
If i saw the video evidence of the alleged sexual assaults I WOULDN'T believe it
an Anglo-USA conspiracy IMHO
an Anglo-USA conspiracy IMHO
Aussie gvmt has thrown him to the wolves. A fkn disgrace.
Assange hasn't even been charged with any sexual offense, let alone been questioned.
i'm sure the swedish police could fly in to interview him. seems the American authorities are behind everything.
i'm sure the swedish police could fly in to interview him. seems the American authorities are behind everything.
U.K Has to agree to him being given Diplomatic Status.
well thats a problem.
I suspect thats not happening.
I suspect thats not happening.
The ****ing UK have a tight hold of Obama's **** and will follow what he says.
Australia 'preparing' for Assange extradition to US
http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/14585544/australia-believes-us-wants-to-prosecute-assange-report/
... isn't it strange that our Trade Minister Craig Emerson is making this public ... rather than our useless fossil Foreign Minister Carr ffs ... resign bob please you were only an expedient posting for our beleagured deceptive PM anyway ...
According to The Age the cables showed that Australia had no objection to Assange's potential extradition and had requested early advice from the US on any decision to indict the former hacker or have him sent to the US.
It claimed that both the prime minister and foreign minister had been briefed on the matter.
... but julia & bob might have ben at the Ekka in Brizzy and have missed these updates ... thus their not mentioning anything to their country and citizens yet
http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/14585544/australia-believes-us-wants-to-prosecute-assange-report/
... isn't it strange that our Trade Minister Craig Emerson is making this public ... rather than our useless fossil Foreign Minister Carr ffs ... resign bob please you were only an expedient posting for our beleagured deceptive PM anyway ...
According to The Age the cables showed that Australia had no objection to Assange's potential extradition and had requested early advice from the US on any decision to indict the former hacker or have him sent to the US.
It claimed that both the prime minister and foreign minister had been briefed on the matter.
... but julia & bob might have ben at the Ekka in Brizzy and have missed these updates ... thus their not mentioning anything to their country and citizens yet
love him or loathe him, we should strongly be fighting to stop him him be extradited to the US where his life would be at risk
Sweden has apparently questioned people outside Sweden before, why aren't they doing it now???
Sweden has apparently questioned people outside Sweden before, why aren't they doing it now???
fear not womble. The sneaky US really just want to interview him about some work offers for the CIA ?? Isn't this what usually happens to hackers with ability, we'll just forget about a life sentence in chicago state julian, here's a big cheque and coffee machine in your new room at the pentagon.... or else.
he'd be far better off imo borrowing $10k and getting on a ricketty boat off indonesia with a satellite phone 
quite amusing police officers encircle the Ecuador embassy on a 24 hour around the clock watch incase he leaves 
I think "his" too busy to read every thread Mr Cushion
Just read this in the Crikey article ... http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/17/ecuador-embraces-assange-but-can-he-escape/
The problem with credentialling Assange as a high-ranking Ecuadorian diplomat is that he would need to be accepted by the UK, which is unlikely on the face of it. Ordinarily, a diplomat made persona non grata is guaranteed safe passage, per the Vienna Convention, but what is the rule if they were never a diplomat in the first place? What if Assange were made an Ecuadorian diplomatic representative to a third country — Brazil — say, and was accepted by them? The Vienna Convention should then oblige the UK to give safe passage, per the convention, as far as I read it.
The problem with credentialling Assange as a high-ranking Ecuadorian diplomat is that he would need to be accepted by the UK, which is unlikely on the face of it. Ordinarily, a diplomat made persona non grata is guaranteed safe passage, per the Vienna Convention, but what is the rule if they were never a diplomat in the first place? What if Assange were made an Ecuadorian diplomatic representative to a third country — Brazil — say, and was accepted by them? The Vienna Convention should then oblige the UK to give safe passage, per the convention, as far as I read it.
John Michael Howson, in a bit of bother after attempting to intreview J Assange's mother;
she caleed him a pig..
howson replied
Zeig Heil!!
Zeig Heil!!
Zeig Heil!!
she caleed him a pig..
howson replied
Zeig Heil!!
Zeig Heil!!
Zeig Heil!!
John Michael Howson has been suspended by radio station 3AW over his Zeig Heil's
How good would it be if everyone who supports him to change their surname to Assange ...
Funny that the champion of free speech would chose Ecudor as his safe haven
what has he done wrong??
a chic he has had consensual sex a few times in the past,invites him home, cooks him dinner, takes him to bed, has consensual sex with him, he wakes up in the morning and slips it in while she's asleep and she cries rape???
a chic he has had consensual sex a few times in the past,invites him home, cooks him dinner, takes him to bed, has consensual sex with him, he wakes up in the morning and slips it in while she's asleep and she cries rape???
That's what you think happened megs - your usual level of knowledge astounds me again! When it happened he had a tip off that the police wanted to question him about this, no arrest - both women had tried to contact him and it was only a chance meeting of the women (and a realisation that the same thing happened to them) that got the police more involved. They weren't going to arrest him they merely wanted his side of the story - no extradition could have taken place at this stage. Instead of going down the copshop he went into hiding for a few days and then snuck out the country. Take the wikileakes saga out of the equation and are these the actions of a man convinced by his own innocence? What would 99% of innocent men have done in this situation?
Earlycow hits the nail - JA talks about free speech and oppression yet is going to Ecuador? The man is an egotistical maniac happy to ride the coattails of people who genuinely put their neck on the line and morph himself into what he (thinks he) needs to to save his ar$e. The Uk has the most 1 sided extradition treaty with the US of any country and without this rape allegation he could have gone (to the US) months ago yet this is all dreamed up to spirit him off to America? That may still happen but the point is that without this rape case he would have prob gone ages ago (if that is what is behind it).
There were many rumours/stories of similar allegations around the time, some were prob made up some prob weren't and it all seems to have gone quiet on those - it wouldn't surprise me if they resurface in the coming months. Assange will shoot himself in the foot as he needs the attention and the power it thinks it gives him - he needs to face up simple as.
Please now google away megs - find some story that you think backs you up (when it does no such thing or is simply opinion) and post away with your usual insults - i simply can't wait for your valuable contribution..........
Earlycow hits the nail - JA talks about free speech and oppression yet is going to Ecuador? The man is an egotistical maniac happy to ride the coattails of people who genuinely put their neck on the line and morph himself into what he (thinks he) needs to to save his ar$e. The Uk has the most 1 sided extradition treaty with the US of any country and without this rape allegation he could have gone (to the US) months ago yet this is all dreamed up to spirit him off to America? That may still happen but the point is that without this rape case he would have prob gone ages ago (if that is what is behind it).
There were many rumours/stories of similar allegations around the time, some were prob made up some prob weren't and it all seems to have gone quiet on those - it wouldn't surprise me if they resurface in the coming months. Assange will shoot himself in the foot as he needs the attention and the power it thinks it gives him - he needs to face up simple as.
Please now google away megs - find some story that you think backs you up (when it does no such thing or is simply opinion) and post away with your usual insults - i simply can't wait for your valuable contribution..........
SEQUENCE OF EVENTS
Important events and developments relating to
the Swedish prosecutor’s case against Julian Assange
13 August 2010
Anna Ardin returns a day early to her Stockholm flat, which she has lent to Julian Assange in connection with a seminar. He offers to find other lodgings, but she invites him to stay. That night they engage in a lengthy session of consensual sex, during which she utters not a word of objection or dissatisfaction.
14 August 2010
Assange is the principal speaker at the seminar; Anna Ardin plays a key supporting role. Assange spends the afternoon with Sofia Wilén, during which they engage in heavy petting and agree to meet again. That evening, Anna Ardin arranges a crayfish party in Assange’s honour and expresses great delight at the company she is keeping. Alternative lodgings are offered to Assange, but Ms. Ardin invites him to continue residing at her flat.
15 August 2010
At a meeting on the future activities of WikiLeaks in Sweden, Anna Ardin serves as Assange’s press secretary.
16 August 2010
Assange accompanies Sofia Wilén to her flat in the town of Enköping. He wears a condom during several consensual acts of sexual intercourse. Then he penetrates her once without a condom. She warns that he’d "better not have HIV" but lets him continue without objection. They part on apparently friendly terms and agree to meet again.
17-18 August 2010
Sofia Wilén becomes increasingly anxious about the risk of infection due to the one act of unprotected intercourse with Assange, but is unable to contact him.
19 August 2010
Sofia Wilén phones Anna Ardin to seek assistance in contacting Assange. It is not clear what they discussed with each other or with Assange. Ms. Ardin asks Assange to move out of her flat, which he does the following morning.
20 August 2010
Accompanied by Anna Ardin, Sofia Wilén visits a Stockholm police station — by their own account, for the limited purpose of obtaining assistance in compelling Assange to take an HIV test. Ms. Wilén is interviewed by a police officer who is a friend and political ally of Ms. Ardin.
On the basis of very little information, including what appears to be a decisive utterance by Ms. Ardin, prosecutor #1 decides to arrest Assange in absentia on suspicion of rape and other sex crimes. When Ms. Wilén is informed of that decision, she is unable to continue the interview and leaves without approving the written account of it. News of the warrant is leaked to a Swedish tabloid and, within hours, global media are full of articles and headlines linking Assange’s name to the word "rape".
21 August 2010
Less than one full day after the arrest warrant is issued, it is revoked by prosecutor #2 who finds that there are no grounds for suspicion of rape or any other sex crime.
Anna Ardin is interviewed by the police via telephone, and gives an account of her sexual encounter with Assange on 13 August which differs from what she has previously told friends. Now, she says that she was the victim of a sexual assault, during which Assange is said to have destroyed a condom and duped her into having unprotected sex. But the "used" condom she subsequently provides as evidence turns out to be unused, and therefore could not have been destroyed in the manner that she claimed.
23 August 2010
The police officer who interviewed Sofia Wilén on August 20th is ordered by a superior to alter the protocol (written summary), which has still not been approved by Ms. Wilén.
24 August 2010
A politician-lawyer named Claes Borgström, who is in the midst of an election campaign and who is struggling to restore a tarnished legal reputation, becomes the publicly financed representative of Anna Ardin and Sofia Wilén. He immediately accuses Assange of sex crimes, cowardice, etc., in a "trial by media" that has continued for 17 months.
30 August 2010
Julian Assange is finally interviewed for the first time, after a delay of ten days that violates police guidelines which call for rapid investigation. As specified by prosecutor #2, the interview is supposed to concern the one remaining suspected crime of non-sexual molestation. But the police interviewer chooses instead to focus on Assange’s sexual relations with Anna Ardin, especially her story about the broken condom (see 21 August).
1 September 2010
At the urging of Claes Borgström (see 24 August), the original case is reopened by prosecutor #3, Marianne Ny. Assange is now once again suspected of rape and other sex crimes, the precise details of which are not made known to him until mid-November. In the months to follow, Ms. Ny will violate her own guidelines on the proper investigation of such cases.
21 August – 27 September 2010
Since first learning of the accusations against him from news media, Assange has voluntarily remained in Sweden and made himself available to the police and prosecutor. Through his attorney, he has made repeated attempts to be interviewed by prosecutor Ny or her agents, but she has rejected all proposals. Finally, after five weeks and having secured Ms. Ny’s consent, Assange departs for Germany and then England. On the same day, Ms. Ny issues a secret warrant for Assange’s arrest.
October 2010
Assange continues to make himself available for an interview by prosecutor Ny, offering to return to Sweden for that purpose or to be interviewed in England, in person or via video link or other telecommunications. All such proposals are rejected by Ms. Ny.
Threats from leading figures in the United States against Assange’s life and freedom escalate in response to the continuing disclosures of WikiLeaks.
20 November 2010
Prosecutor Ny issues a European Arrest Warrant for Assange and authorizes an Interpol Red Notice concerning him. In doing so, she ignores the less drastic alternative of arranging to interview him via Mutual Legal Assistance, an established mechanism for international co-operation. Ms. Ny states that it is not possible under Swedish law to interview him in England. That is an outright lie; there is no such law.
7 December 2010
Having announced his intention to resist extradition to Sweden, Assange turns himself into a London police station and for the first time gets to read a detailed description in his native tongue of the accusations against him. They turn out to be false and distorted accounts of his consensual sexual encounters with Anna Ardin and Sofia Wilén. The most serious accusation is that he raped Ms. Wilén by penetrating her while she "due to sleep, was in a helpless state". In fact, she was sufficiently awake to converse with Assange and indicate her consent (see 16 August).
At prosecutor Ny’s request, Assange is jailed pending an extradition hearing. He is placed in solitary confinement with limited access to his lawyers, television, the library, telephones and the Internet.
16 December 2010
Assange wins an appeal to be released from confinement while waiting for the February hearing. But the conditions imposed are unusually restrictive: Assange must observe a 10:00 p.m. curfew, report to a local police station every day and constantly wear an electronic ankle bracelet.
24 February 2011
Howard Riddle, a hostile judge, rejects Assange’s appeal against the European Arrest Warrant and extradition to Sweden. It was Judge Riddle who had jailed Assange the previous December.
2 November 2011
The U.K. High Court rejects Assange’s appeal of Judge Riddle’s ruling, based on a hearing conducted on 12-13 July.
16 December 2011
The U.K. Supreme Court grants an appeal on one point of law concerning the European Arrest Warrant. The hearing is scheduled for 1-2 February 2012.
11 January 2012
Assange 400th day of house arrest under the conditions noted above (16 December).
1–2 February 2012
Supreme Court extradition hearing. The issue to be decided is whether or not a prosecutor may be regarded as an independent and impartial "judicial authority", and thereby qualified to issue a European Arrest Warrant. Ruling expected within weeks.
Note: Information on developments after 1 February 2012 is contained in a PDF document that can be downloaded via this link: Miscellaneous Information — Part 4
Important events and developments relating to
the Swedish prosecutor’s case against Julian Assange
13 August 2010
Anna Ardin returns a day early to her Stockholm flat, which she has lent to Julian Assange in connection with a seminar. He offers to find other lodgings, but she invites him to stay. That night they engage in a lengthy session of consensual sex, during which she utters not a word of objection or dissatisfaction.
14 August 2010
Assange is the principal speaker at the seminar; Anna Ardin plays a key supporting role. Assange spends the afternoon with Sofia Wilén, during which they engage in heavy petting and agree to meet again. That evening, Anna Ardin arranges a crayfish party in Assange’s honour and expresses great delight at the company she is keeping. Alternative lodgings are offered to Assange, but Ms. Ardin invites him to continue residing at her flat.
15 August 2010
At a meeting on the future activities of WikiLeaks in Sweden, Anna Ardin serves as Assange’s press secretary.
16 August 2010
Assange accompanies Sofia Wilén to her flat in the town of Enköping. He wears a condom during several consensual acts of sexual intercourse. Then he penetrates her once without a condom. She warns that he’d "better not have HIV" but lets him continue without objection. They part on apparently friendly terms and agree to meet again.
17-18 August 2010
Sofia Wilén becomes increasingly anxious about the risk of infection due to the one act of unprotected intercourse with Assange, but is unable to contact him.
19 August 2010
Sofia Wilén phones Anna Ardin to seek assistance in contacting Assange. It is not clear what they discussed with each other or with Assange. Ms. Ardin asks Assange to move out of her flat, which he does the following morning.
20 August 2010
Accompanied by Anna Ardin, Sofia Wilén visits a Stockholm police station — by their own account, for the limited purpose of obtaining assistance in compelling Assange to take an HIV test. Ms. Wilén is interviewed by a police officer who is a friend and political ally of Ms. Ardin.
On the basis of very little information, including what appears to be a decisive utterance by Ms. Ardin, prosecutor #1 decides to arrest Assange in absentia on suspicion of rape and other sex crimes. When Ms. Wilén is informed of that decision, she is unable to continue the interview and leaves without approving the written account of it. News of the warrant is leaked to a Swedish tabloid and, within hours, global media are full of articles and headlines linking Assange’s name to the word "rape".
21 August 2010
Less than one full day after the arrest warrant is issued, it is revoked by prosecutor #2 who finds that there are no grounds for suspicion of rape or any other sex crime.
Anna Ardin is interviewed by the police via telephone, and gives an account of her sexual encounter with Assange on 13 August which differs from what she has previously told friends. Now, she says that she was the victim of a sexual assault, during which Assange is said to have destroyed a condom and duped her into having unprotected sex. But the "used" condom she subsequently provides as evidence turns out to be unused, and therefore could not have been destroyed in the manner that she claimed.
23 August 2010
The police officer who interviewed Sofia Wilén on August 20th is ordered by a superior to alter the protocol (written summary), which has still not been approved by Ms. Wilén.
24 August 2010
A politician-lawyer named Claes Borgström, who is in the midst of an election campaign and who is struggling to restore a tarnished legal reputation, becomes the publicly financed representative of Anna Ardin and Sofia Wilén. He immediately accuses Assange of sex crimes, cowardice, etc., in a "trial by media" that has continued for 17 months.
30 August 2010
Julian Assange is finally interviewed for the first time, after a delay of ten days that violates police guidelines which call for rapid investigation. As specified by prosecutor #2, the interview is supposed to concern the one remaining suspected crime of non-sexual molestation. But the police interviewer chooses instead to focus on Assange’s sexual relations with Anna Ardin, especially her story about the broken condom (see 21 August).
1 September 2010
At the urging of Claes Borgström (see 24 August), the original case is reopened by prosecutor #3, Marianne Ny. Assange is now once again suspected of rape and other sex crimes, the precise details of which are not made known to him until mid-November. In the months to follow, Ms. Ny will violate her own guidelines on the proper investigation of such cases.
21 August – 27 September 2010
Since first learning of the accusations against him from news media, Assange has voluntarily remained in Sweden and made himself available to the police and prosecutor. Through his attorney, he has made repeated attempts to be interviewed by prosecutor Ny or her agents, but she has rejected all proposals. Finally, after five weeks and having secured Ms. Ny’s consent, Assange departs for Germany and then England. On the same day, Ms. Ny issues a secret warrant for Assange’s arrest.
October 2010
Assange continues to make himself available for an interview by prosecutor Ny, offering to return to Sweden for that purpose or to be interviewed in England, in person or via video link or other telecommunications. All such proposals are rejected by Ms. Ny.
Threats from leading figures in the United States against Assange’s life and freedom escalate in response to the continuing disclosures of WikiLeaks.
20 November 2010
Prosecutor Ny issues a European Arrest Warrant for Assange and authorizes an Interpol Red Notice concerning him. In doing so, she ignores the less drastic alternative of arranging to interview him via Mutual Legal Assistance, an established mechanism for international co-operation. Ms. Ny states that it is not possible under Swedish law to interview him in England. That is an outright lie; there is no such law.
7 December 2010
Having announced his intention to resist extradition to Sweden, Assange turns himself into a London police station and for the first time gets to read a detailed description in his native tongue of the accusations against him. They turn out to be false and distorted accounts of his consensual sexual encounters with Anna Ardin and Sofia Wilén. The most serious accusation is that he raped Ms. Wilén by penetrating her while she "due to sleep, was in a helpless state". In fact, she was sufficiently awake to converse with Assange and indicate her consent (see 16 August).
At prosecutor Ny’s request, Assange is jailed pending an extradition hearing. He is placed in solitary confinement with limited access to his lawyers, television, the library, telephones and the Internet.
16 December 2010
Assange wins an appeal to be released from confinement while waiting for the February hearing. But the conditions imposed are unusually restrictive: Assange must observe a 10:00 p.m. curfew, report to a local police station every day and constantly wear an electronic ankle bracelet.
24 February 2011
Howard Riddle, a hostile judge, rejects Assange’s appeal against the European Arrest Warrant and extradition to Sweden. It was Judge Riddle who had jailed Assange the previous December.
2 November 2011
The U.K. High Court rejects Assange’s appeal of Judge Riddle’s ruling, based on a hearing conducted on 12-13 July.
16 December 2011
The U.K. Supreme Court grants an appeal on one point of law concerning the European Arrest Warrant. The hearing is scheduled for 1-2 February 2012.
11 January 2012
Assange 400th day of house arrest under the conditions noted above (16 December).
1–2 February 2012
Supreme Court extradition hearing. The issue to be decided is whether or not a prosecutor may be regarded as an independent and impartial "judicial authority", and thereby qualified to issue a European Arrest Warrant. Ruling expected within weeks.
Note: Information on developments after 1 February 2012 is contained in a PDF document that can be downloaded via this link: Miscellaneous Information — Part 4
So he didn't go into hiding, and nor did he sneak out of the country. Trying to discredit him for seeking asylum with Ecuador is just a tactic from the right. Free press, coming from Aus and English, what a joke that is with Murdoch in charge of the Press in both countries.
you will have to wait until our pretend PM julia ... and our fossilised foreign minister bob .. get their bets on maybe
these two WILL make a public statement about this soon won't they ?
(tho it will probably be just a US prepared missive i guess )
these two WILL make a public statement about this soon won't they ?
(tho it will probably be just a US prepared missive i guess
)
Yes not as bad as Howard and Downer denying any knowledge of Habib's whereabouts, when they knew he was being tortured/rendered by Egypt, on behalf of the USA, despite never being charged with an offence.
it seems a common theme AFL ... one cannot discount the theory that our highest pollies are puppets regardless of party
but today is today ... and there is somthing happening ... GAIN
...julia and bob should really make some statement .. however impotent and pathetic it might be
but today is today ... and there is somthing happening ... GAIN
...julia and bob should really make some statement .. however impotent and pathetic it might be
Yes this one is yet to go it's full distance , so see what happens i guess.
Though it seems that Aus Gov'ts have no problems 'selling out' our citizens, through fear or agreement with the USA.
Though it seems that Aus Gov'ts have no problems 'selling out' our citizens, through fear or agreement with the USA.
spyker, talk about being my very own stalker 
your a fcuking dip shyt, you think you know everything, how about you just stay the fcuk away from the australian threads where your not wanted or liked and your opinions count to zilch. you still owe crazy an appology and im still awaiting my removal from here when you threaten myself and a few others from the aussie threads 2 weeks ago.
as the saying goes. "how much shyt could a dip shyt dip,if a dip shyt could dip shyt"
your a fcuking dip shyt, you think you know everything, how about you just stay the fcuk away from the australian threads where your not wanted or liked and your opinions count to zilch. you still owe crazy an appology and im still awaiting my removal from here when you threaten myself and a few others from the aussie threads 2 weeks ago.
as the saying goes. "how much shyt could a dip shyt dip,if a dip shyt could dip shyt"
AFL...interesting read,you are spot on. i think all Assange is guilty of is not wearing a condom that one time.
i also agree with Thebas. "...julia and bob should really make some statement .. however impotent and pathetic it might be."
this has become a huge political circus and it all points to USA having their nose out of joint.
i also agree with Thebas. "...julia and bob should really make some statement .. however impotent and pathetic it might be."
this has become a huge political circus and it all points to USA having their nose out of joint.
Megssy baby - i prob would stop posting on here if you didn't post such crap all the time and knowing that my presence annoys you so much brings a warm glow to my left big toe. I owe no apology as you are an all-round Aussie embarrassment that thought ireland was a free country in the C19th and sent their own prisoners to populate your fair land - i.e you were ignorant of a huge part of your history - clear? You just don't get it about your 'removal' do you so i'll spell it out very simply:
Soon they are changing the rules for those that are allowed to post on the forums (you may have seen a few threads from bf on the English forums noting at forum changes), but a bit of inside info was posted a couple of months back that i happened to notice. Anyway the long and the short of it is that you will have to actually use bf for betting and not just use the forum to post bullocks. The finer points have to be ironed out but I'm confident that as you obviously aren't a gambler you won't be allowed to post your drivel anymore. Compredndeeeeeeeeee?
Soon they are changing the rules for those that are allowed to post on the forums (you may have seen a few threads from bf on the English forums noting at forum changes), but a bit of inside info was posted a couple of months back that i happened to notice. Anyway the long and the short of it is that you will have to actually use bf for betting and not just use the forum to post bullocks. The finer points have to be ironed out but I'm confident that as you obviously aren't a gambler you won't be allowed to post your drivel anymore. Compredndeeeeeeeeee?
"brings a warm glow to my left big toe" ahhhh that's where his brain be, better tell Dr Gumby, he'll fix that uncomfortable warm feelin' for ye .
There's more brains on my left big toenail fungal infection than mugsy........
Spyker, Nothing to say about the B/S you posted about the subject of this thread?
TBH i can't really be arsed with Assange as it has bored me to death over the years (I've been abused many times and the same old shyte gets repeated) and so far I've been proved pretty right about the whole wikileakes saga. I can't say where i said it (as the site is a bit dodgy) but so far it has gone pretty much as i thought - i even predicted the Arab Spring as a possible consequence of the release of the cables but i don't expect you to believe it. I might have posted about it in chit chat at the time if you can be arsed to look!
Nevertheless, care to give me the website where you got that timeline from please? The reason why i ask is that so much has been written about this by people with their own agendas that the truth is almost impossible to find. A bit of digging and it's pretty simple to find the organisation (or not) behind a website and just because a news agency says it is so doesn't mean it is. It will all come out when the case goes to court in Sweden anyway.
My account is from reading a translation of a Swedish newspaper from about the time (before it became world news) and a radio programme a couple of months after - the problem is that at the time any article that didn't lick Assange's arse was attacked either by a dos or just by idiots posting abusive comments so most of them became member only or were taken down.
BTW Ecuador has 24 cases that Amnesty (that bastion of the right wing) has identified where the gov is using the judicial system in "co-ordinated campaign to clamp down on the right to freedom of expression" (P.Eye)
Nevertheless, care to give me the website where you got that timeline from please? The reason why i ask is that so much has been written about this by people with their own agendas that the truth is almost impossible to find. A bit of digging and it's pretty simple to find the organisation (or not) behind a website and just because a news agency says it is so doesn't mean it is. It will all come out when the case goes to court in Sweden anyway.
My account is from reading a translation of a Swedish newspaper from about the time (before it became world news) and a radio programme a couple of months after - the problem is that at the time any article that didn't lick Assange's arse was attacked either by a dos or just by idiots posting abusive comments so most of them became member only or were taken down.
BTW Ecuador has 24 cases that Amnesty (that bastion of the right wing) has identified where the gov is using the judicial system in "co-ordinated campaign to clamp down on the right to freedom of expression" (P.Eye)
just done a tiny bit of searching and i presume you got it fro the 'Nordic News Network?' When i can be bothered I'll dig around and see who runs them.
From the site:
DISINFORMATION DIGEST
The issues addressed by Pox Americana and Nordic News Network are intimately connected with the workings of the mainstream media. The focus here is on the function of Swedish media as cogs in the global propaganda apparatus of the U.S. empire, the role of international media in the continuing effort to eliminate the Nordic model, and the various symbiotic relationships involved.
Now i may agree with the general principles of the site (i may not1) but there is your agenda. I'll take a look at Al Burke in the morning........
DISINFORMATION DIGEST
The issues addressed by Pox Americana and Nordic News Network are intimately connected with the workings of the mainstream media. The focus here is on the function of Swedish media as cogs in the global propaganda apparatus of the U.S. empire, the role of international media in the continuing effort to eliminate the Nordic model, and the various symbiotic relationships involved.
Now i may agree with the general principles of the site (i may not1) but there is your agenda. I'll take a look at Al Burke in the morning........
No worries spyker. I can't be ar ssed myself lol, getting too deep looking for agenda's etc. No doubt the truth is out there.
I watched a doco about it.....and the timeline i posted matched the timeline in the doco, pretty much.
If what you say about Eucador is correct, then Assange would be the last person on earth that they would want to protect , wouldn't he?
Biggest symbol and Defender of free speech in the world meets Country with the worst history of squashing free speech in the world.
LOL.
I watched a doco about it.....and the timeline i posted matched the timeline in the doco, pretty much.
If what you say about Eucador is correct, then Assange would be the last person on earth that they would want to protect , wouldn't he?
Biggest symbol and Defender of free speech in the world meets Country with the worst history of squashing free speech in the world.
LOL.
I dunno about the worst but there are better countries he could have chosen! Wikileakes has done some fantastic work but when 'ego' gets involved (in pretty much any situation) things inevitably start to go wrong and people forget that they are not the organisation. I hope wikileakes comes out of this saga intact - Assange probably won't either way. Lets see what develops.
As a great statesman from the 1990's said "The truth is out there!" dah dah dah dah........
As a great statesman from the 1990's said "The truth is out there!" dah dah dah dah........
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