AFL Round 20

WCE should have the run to get this done. But Geelong putting up a big fight.  Eagles have to win this by 15+ or they are shot ducks for this year I think.

Eagles won the game, but they're no good.

Just finished watching the game, Eagles did enough just to win. Dont think they can win the premiership this year, but a prelim finals is a minimum target for them. They need to aim for top 4 spot, Draw of Port ADelaide, Collingwood (Home), Hawks (Away)

Think if WCE win 1 of those 3 games, they can get 5th-6th spot (Home Final)
If WCE win 2 of those 3 games, they can get a top 4 spot (3rd or 4th)
If WCE win 3 of those 3 games, they can get a top 2 spot

Key game will be the Pies match for me, Pies will get back Dane Swan for that match but I think that will be a 50 50 game at home

If form is anything to go on, WCE can only possibly beat Port in that draw.  To play at home, against a side battered with injury, losing their focal point up forward early early, losing a rotation on the bench, to just get over the line, is no good.

Especially when they really turned up to play

Geelong coach Chris Scott last night labelled West Coast fans disgraceful and the worst in the league after the Eagles fought off his valiant side to record a gritty five-point win.

In a contest marred by the officious interpretation of the deliberate out-of-bounds rule, Scott questioned whether Patersons Stadium was a fit environment for children to watch AFL games.

He fired the verbal shot after pockets of Eagles supporters booed star Cats forward Tom Hawkins as he lay motionless on the ground after he was badly concussed from landing on his head in a marking contest.

The Eagles kept their top-four hopes alive with the 16.6 (102) to 15.7 (97) win to anchor their position in fifth spot, just percentage behind fourth-placed Hawthorn.

But the talking point was the nine free kicks paid for deliberate out-of-bounds, believed to be an AFL record.

Scott said he was hugely disappointed by the reaction of fans to the plight of Hawkins, who was stretchered off in the first quarter.

"Standing on the boundary line, it is not an environment for young kids, which is a shame because we need young kids coming to the footy," Scott said.

"It was disgraceful. It's everywhere, but here's the worst.

"I loved it when I was at Freo. It's fantastic, it's great the energy here. It's the loudest ground in the competition. It's a great place to play footy.

"But if you're asking my opinion on whether it goes too far, absolutely it does … when a player is concussed, he's on the ground, he hasn't moved and he's being carted off the ground, you shouldn't be swearing and abusing him, abusing the medical staff.

"Would you take a 10-year-old into that environment?"

embarrassing stuff by weagle fans..too much chardonnay and they go ugly

Hope North get up got superb odds 2 months ago laying the Bombers and Backing North.  Bomber supports are really stupid, betting on emotion, madness.

I would be ashamed to be an Eagles supporter, I really would.

draw between Suns vs Giants???  actually with Izzy in and Hunt out, Giants are good things

The Eagles are the most disgusting team in the competition at the minute, their is clearly an issue with the bias umpires are showing them week after week and you have to wonder why after nearly a full season. And their supporters are an embarrassment, well done to Chris Scott for having the courage to say publically what a horrible bunch of human beings they are. Their side are front runners and all they want to do is take pot shots at everyone else.

Well done Chriss Scott, a digrace display by Eagles fans

Calls by Victorians to make Patersons Stadium an ''adults only venue"'? 

But I think thats what got the Eagles over the line last night, they are the nastiest supporters in the land.(More nastier than Adelaide supporters at Footy Park or Collingwood) (which can be a good thing for the team or a bad thing if your an opposition supporter)

AD proving yet again what a vindictive thing he is, Hawkins got cheered off I didn't hear any booing of him and no one in their right mind would have booed him. Sour grapes from Chris Scott proving yet again that's he's a poor loser, pretty disappointing recently because I am an admirer of Chris Scott.

What about the boing a few weeks ago when the umpires stopped play because the ball came close to where Lewis Roberts-Thompson was lying on the ground, shortly after that he was taken to hospital? Never seen anything like it.

Nice try Joel, fish aren't biting.

Yes that's right, everyone else is wrong and you are right If you are defending that you are vile

West Coast supporters got way ahead of themselves, complete front runners who have been found out and don't like it

fyfe out..adel by 40 +

I wasn't fishing, I was asking a geniune question and it seems you don't have an answer.

for a bloke who's not interested in football and doesn't bet on or actively follow it you seem to have a lot to say obviously your team is out of contention

Me?

I don't bet on football, but have never said I don't actively follow it ,played at a much higher level than you could dream of I am sure and have forgotten more about the game that you know

I assume it was addressed at me Joel, he doesn't have an answer for your question he is part of that vile supporter group

NO AD you knew who it was addressed at and and yeah the other one plays jingle bell mate. Keep living those delusions.

I don't understand your last post. Very disappointing you think it is appropriate for a crowd to react as they have twice to men who have been knocked rotten. Says a lot about you, very poor

Iam treating that comment with contempt it deserves as per usual its your usual snide attempt to put words into people mouths.. It really burns you upo that I have so consisently been right with many of my predictions, doesn't it AD.

I give u p with typo'ss and this forum, its just pointless

Not a great start by the dees

Ree-What in some trouble

Subbed off - Right Knee

I would suggest the skill level in that Adel-Freo first quarter would be an embarrassment to most country footballers if they produced it. Both teams will want to hope September is cancelled based on that

Stk-Melb hasn't exactly been a skills clinic either.

5.5 to 2.7 at 1/2 time.

freo are a massive chance of running over the top of the crows here, I've just kept chipping away at the 1.4 laying the crows in the run and am pretty confident freo will roll over the top of them in the 2nd half.

Mayne out early in the 3rd that massively hurts the dockers chance he's been very good for them and has become a hugely important player to their forward structure.

vital crows goal froma bltant dangerfield throw, crows out by 19 points now, dockers need to stsy with and great answering goal by walters crows by 13points

dockers griffin got away with one crows player definitely marked it makes for the goal from the dangerfield throw crows by 14 points

Fremantle doing ok so far and clearly proving themselves the best side in the West

This proves why Adelaide get smashed every time they play a good side, they can only score from unforced opposition errors, which is an Freo have been pathetic in continually giving the ball back. They don't get those goals against good sides, unfortunately will be an embarrassment to the top 4

*which is an area Freo have been pathetic

Great quarter from Adelaide, especially Patrick Dangerfield, Crows up 87-65 at 3/4 time, hard to see Freo turning this around

The unadulterated class of dangerfield is the difference in this game Crows out by 22 points at the final change, freo are going to have to do everything right from here to get home.

should have learned by now freo never win the ones that really count although in fairness to them losing Mayne really hurts their forward structure it means an extra defender can go to Pavlich and effectively cut him out of the game.

Dangerfield a real dark shot for the Brownlow this season, but only problem is I see other players taking votes off him

Gee GCS are piss poor on their defense inside defensive 50.  Wish I was a GWS forward today.

Izzy to kick 15 for mine

Who is number 15 and what did he do?

If he went and kicked Campbell Brown the ball would spill into their forward line with more purpose than if he passed it himself.

15 is the number of goals I expect him to kick.

In his career?

This quarter

Makes me sick seeing Robert Harvey in Collingwood getup....

Tough wet game of footy, Thomas subbed off early, replaced by Didak unseen for months, more concerns over a couple of others, sees Sydney running over the top here.
Story for Collingwood so far been the dominance in the forward line for their tall marking forwards, start getting some tired kicks in there later in the game and all leads to the same opinion.  In it up to their neck, but think Sydney draw away in this second half.

Makes me sick seeing Robert Harvey in Collingwood getup.

At least he gets to see what a Premiership Cup looks like .......sans cobwebs

Possibly the worst decision ever. What was that for?

Umpire Ripleys...believe it or not

Umpire incompetence influencing games yet again sydney get a goal from an out of bounds out on the full which was clearly fisted at about the 14 min mark of the third quarter which gave the swans a 9 point lead.

Bizarre.

Marty Clarke...slow all year

Chris Dawes ... still....very ordinary

very evenly poised managed to lay sydney for something at 1.3  when they were just 11 points up after I tried to back them during the halftime break at 1.9 unsucessfully this one looks like it may go right down to the final siren. Can pies good record here against the swans come into play here if it's reallly tight in the last few minutes

get on the bandwagon, Lets Locomotive can carry one more

Terrific final quarter by dawes clunked some big marks and pendlebury really lifted in this quarter. terrific gutsy win by the pies if they  hold on.

lol

did he find ONE target?   lol

looks like we'll have to wait until gf day to break our losing streak against the Pies

Spoon I provide only temporary support for the filth when there is some potential financial gain involved.

Collingwood seem to have the wood on the interstate teams for a period of time : Sydney, West Coast and Adelaide but I feel they are 50 50 chances against the best Victorian sides in Melbourne(Geelong, Hawks, and Carlton on their day)

Going to buck the trend today in the Essendon and Kangaroos and predict unders of 210.5 points, Unders 210.5 paying 1.87 V 2.02 Over 210.5 pts, I think it will be a high scoring , as these teams are traditionally attacking teams at the Dome but maybe with a bit more on the line (winner gets to be in the top 8) there may be a period of 5-10 minutes where it may be a scrappy affair.


Going to take the UNDERS 210.5 points here. GL All

Total Game Score Essendon V North Melbourne



150 Points or Less $26.00
151-160 Points $26.00
161-170 Points $17.00
171-180 Points $12.00
181-190 Points $8.00
191-200 Points $6.50
201-210 Points $6.50
211-220 Points $6.50
221+ Points $2.50


Think there is value in the 171-180 points which is paying $12.00 and 181-190 points paying $8.00


My bets for scoring in this game

5 units on Under 210.5 points @ 1.87
1 unit on 171-180 points @ 12.00
1.5 units on 181-190 points @ 8.00

GL All

GO POWER,

this would be one of the biggest upsets in the past decade if power get up?

Power up 22-1 over Hawks

It's only taken whiskas salmon and chicken one week to work his magic.

am i crazy? I just bet powers.
I'm so afraid

22-15 power lead. I think i'llthorw away my bet soon..

Massive indictment on the Powers players, where was this against GWS???? Hawks about to slip into gear and they've made the mistake of of having a cheap shot at Cyril, bye bye Port.

bye bye power. think it's done.. hawks is on the way...

Normal service has resumed.

interseted to see how Lin Jong goes for the Western Bulldogs today, could be an influx of Asian players in the AFL? Rohan Smith says he is the fastest player at the Bulldogs

hey wce. what u think of bombers roos match?
I think this gonna be very tight match.

Kangas for me

QTR TIME

Richmond 40-15 Bulldogs

ODDS:

Richmond 1.04 v 21 Bulldogs

Richmond midfield , especially Trent Cotchin burning the Dogs. Dogs team again has no good forward structure and when there is no focal point up forward your never going to be a good team. Richmond eased up in that final 10 minutes of that quarter, but can see Richmond running away with this big time.


Richmond Lines betting


Richmond -36.5 pts 1.12
Richmond -46.5 pts 1.25
Richmond -56.5 pts 1.50
Richmond -66.5 pts 1.95
Richmodn -76.5 pts 2.60
Richmond -86.5 pts 3.85
Richmond -96.5 pts 6.00

Get on anything richmond to belt these dud Dogs

Richmond eyeing percentage here ............

Port get within 17pts ín the last and lose by 72....
Anyone know if Hawks ended up covering the line

Depends what the line was

There was 4 lines on here

+50.5
+74.5
+80.5
+110.5

Not sure what the main one was.

Thanks think it got down to 70 and a half

how about Grant Birchalls game against port. 32 disposals at 100% efficiency... a new champion data record. Seems unrewarded with only 126 supercoach points but fair dinkum he could have landed a sherrin missile up bin laden's asre from a hundred yards today.

HALF TIME

Richmond 70-40 Bulldogs

ODDS:

Richmond 1.02 v 34 Bulldogs

Bulldogs played better that quarter but Ive seen them many times this season, I dont think they run out 2nd halves that good, maybe due to some fitness issues.

Line Betting

Richmond -56.5 pts 1.95 v 1.85 Bulldogs +56.5

Richmond should still cover the line, Hardwick will push them to fight harder and smash the Dogs in 2nd half and boost their chances of making the playoffs.

Frustrating day  miss out on the hawks spread in my multi by 2 points after Hale misses an absolute sitter 20 metres out directly in front at the start of the final quarter and then richmond and north both win and then when wells goes down after adams had already gone down on the basis of attrition rate I thought the bombers had to run over the top of the roos and against my better judgment I layed the roos and bombers then proceed to butcher the ball throughout the rest of their game with abysmal kicking.
Tremendous win by the roos after losing grima as well during the match and showed what I already thought they're a vastly superior side to the bombers. The roo wins was alla bout heart but the bombers displayed a dsitinct lack of hear and skill despite the massive advantage they gained the during the match with three north players completely out of business.

Great effort by the Roos, playing with 2 men down for the majority of the game, really admire the teams that run out games, with injured players sidelined during a game. (even Geelong the other Friday night)

race for the top 2 and 8th spot HUGE imo

if the roos couldnt beat that essendon line up then there would be serious problems at north imo. Think first gamers, a couple of 3 or 4 gamers and a couple of amateurs that should be with the bendigo bombers. Lee, Brown, BAguley, Stumbleton, Colyer etc. Shocking imo that north took until haflway through the last quarter to run them off their legs.

Very,

North was down Wells, Adams and Grima before half time. I think you're being a bit harsh.

not at all, we've got three times as many injured as they've got... were playing the bottom of our list and anyone still standing upright. I'll give you wells though that was a blow but they still didn't have much to beat imo.

Agree to disagree. I thought that was a great win by North.

If Colyer can improve oin his kicking he will become a very good players his workrate was outstanding but ruined with his shocking kicking. Gumbleton is a tremendous talent he just need consistent time on the park and he will continue to progress.

Totally agree Snake, North's effort today was nothing short of outstanding

Let me guess, they are both from WA?

Heppell = most overrated player in the league, bar none.

clearly you didnt watch the game JOel  Colyer needs to work hugely on his kicking but there's zero doubt about his workrate and appetiie for the ball but his kicking was farked to say the least. It  can be done though if you're prepared to work at it, former Eagles warhorse Drew Banfield was a classic example when he first came into the league despite being the No.1 pick his kicking was shithouse but he continually worked and worked on it and he eventually became an extrmely reliable kick and a good user of the ball.

Yes he hasnt progresssed much this year but is definitely better than what he is serving up currently, conclusively settle the argument though over wgo is the better player and who should have won the rising star last year, Shuey is and by a furlong.

Let me guess, he's from WA too

Shuey's a Victorian Joel

Which Victorian club does he play for?