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Before FRANKEL Won by 11L
Firstly he said himself when interviewed that shes is going over there to race against B grade opposition and for a 1/3 of the prizemoney. So when anyone questions his mares ability they should think twice.. and got a bit heated and grumpy about it also.
So Peter is booming with confidence Comments like the Ratings are all wrong 3 horse races with pacemakers yada yada yada.
So basically he is taking her over there to show the world how good she is not the prizemoney factor, its never been about prizemoney otherwise he would race her in Australia not travel to overseas.. its always been about owning and training a once in a lifetime horses and proving that she is just that to the rest of the world.
After FRANKEL WON by 11L
Now he is saying where happy to just win by a inch and take home the prizemoney?
Frankel has clearly put him in his spot! Didn't Peter say that Frankels ratings are basically crap yada yada 3 horse races with a pacemaker yawn. But now Frankel is the best he P.Moody has ever seen? really Peter? took you a while!
To take her across the world and win by a inch length or 2L proves what?..... nothing! It would be a shame to see her held to the line IMO. To go all the way to Ascot and win by a inch imo is pathetic!! Totally proves nothing and when you do get a champion like BC a once in a lifetime horse you need to stamp her in the History books not duck and weave, questions and what people want to see and that's letting her burn up Ascot.
Shes a once in a lifetime horse and another one like her HE will never get...she was born a champion a Freak! let her prove it to the rest of the world and LET HER GO!......not comeback here and beat up on BUFFERING and LONE ROCK etc again and again and prove nothing.
Otherwise he will regret it later people will always talk rubbish she beat nothing only beat Hay List over and over Were Gonna Rock etc.
They flown all the way over there, taken a huge risk with the horse, and to win a 1/3 of the prizemoney they would in AUS by a inch would have him satisfied? Yeah right
And now he has said Frankel is the best he has ever seen... this really annoys me! reason is he trains the fastest horse Australia has ever seen according to many undefeated in 21 starts and winning her races under a massive grip most times..and just like that Frankel is the best?
I have said it always you can not compare horses from one era to another i don't care if they win by 6L every start 11L or 31L like Secretariat did ....it means absoulutly nothing to me its what you beat... not how far you beat them.
Secretariat goes down in History with the yanks as the best ever because of a 30L margin in a 4 horse field.. where he beat two horses that should not have even been in the race total walkers making up the field of 4 only....the only opposition he had that day ran a shocker on the day struggling vs the other two let alone vs Secretariat. Also to note Secretariat was beaten before that and after that ....So how can he be BEST EVER?
Three weeks after his win at Belmont, Secretariat shipped to Chicago, and easily won the Arlington Invitational at Arlington Park. He went to Saratoga, for the Whitney Stakes. Racing against older horses for the first time he was beaten by the Allen Jerkens-trained Onion, a four-year-old gelding. Onion led from the start and led Secretariat by a head on the final turn before pulling ahead in the straight to win by a length. A record crowd of over 30,000 witnessed what was described as an "astonishing" upset.[19] In September, Secretariat returned to Belmont for the 11⁄2 mile Woodward Stakes in which he was matched against the Allen Jerkens-trained, four-year-old Prove Out. Secretariat led into the straight but was overtaken by Prove Out, who pulled clear to win by 41⁄2 lengths. BEST EVER? 31L win but gets flogged by others straight after?
Margins mean nothing its the horses and pressure in the race at the time that see the best of the best crack under pressure... winning and beating horses of not the same caliber is fine viewing.... but winning and beating champions and having them crack chasing you is what real Champions do.
That's why i have also said Pacemakers are needed in racing and for all those that say there not they obviously don't appreciate champions like Frankel who if not for UK and Timeform ratings would never be let go, and instead would only get average Ratings 130 etc but with Ratings and pacemakers 130 Ratings don't looks as impressive as 147 does it. Hence why most to be stallions get pushed out to the line to secure a high Rating for their future Stud career.
Firstly he said himself when interviewed that shes is going over there to race against B grade opposition and for a 1/3 of the prizemoney. So when anyone questions his mares ability they should think twice.. and got a bit heated and grumpy about it also.
So Peter is booming with confidence Comments like the Ratings are all wrong 3 horse races with pacemakers yada yada yada.
So basically he is taking her over there to show the world how good she is not the prizemoney factor, its never been about prizemoney otherwise he would race her in Australia not travel to overseas.. its always been about owning and training a once in a lifetime horses and proving that she is just that to the rest of the world.
After FRANKEL WON by 11L
Now he is saying where happy to just win by a inch and take home the prizemoney?
Frankel has clearly put him in his spot! Didn't Peter say that Frankels ratings are basically crap yada yada 3 horse races with a pacemaker yawn. But now Frankel is the best he P.Moody has ever seen? really Peter? took you a while!
To take her across the world and win by a inch length or 2L proves what?..... nothing! It would be a shame to see her held to the line IMO. To go all the way to Ascot and win by a inch imo is pathetic!! Totally proves nothing and when you do get a champion like BC a once in a lifetime horse you need to stamp her in the History books not duck and weave, questions and what people want to see and that's letting her burn up Ascot.
Shes a once in a lifetime horse and another one like her HE will never get...she was born a champion a Freak! let her prove it to the rest of the world and LET HER GO!......not comeback here and beat up on BUFFERING and LONE ROCK etc again and again and prove nothing.
Otherwise he will regret it later people will always talk rubbish she beat nothing only beat Hay List over and over Were Gonna Rock etc.
They flown all the way over there, taken a huge risk with the horse, and to win a 1/3 of the prizemoney they would in AUS by a inch would have him satisfied? Yeah right
And now he has said Frankel is the best he has ever seen... this really annoys me! reason is he trains the fastest horse Australia has ever seen according to many undefeated in 21 starts and winning her races under a massive grip most times..and just like that Frankel is the best?
I have said it always you can not compare horses from one era to another i don't care if they win by 6L every start 11L or 31L like Secretariat did ....it means absoulutly nothing to me its what you beat... not how far you beat them.
Secretariat goes down in History with the yanks as the best ever because of a 30L margin in a 4 horse field.. where he beat two horses that should not have even been in the race total walkers making up the field of 4 only....the only opposition he had that day ran a shocker on the day struggling vs the other two let alone vs Secretariat. Also to note Secretariat was beaten before that and after that ....So how can he be BEST EVER?
Three weeks after his win at Belmont, Secretariat shipped to Chicago, and easily won the Arlington Invitational at Arlington Park. He went to Saratoga, for the Whitney Stakes. Racing against older horses for the first time he was beaten by the Allen Jerkens-trained Onion, a four-year-old gelding. Onion led from the start and led Secretariat by a head on the final turn before pulling ahead in the straight to win by a length. A record crowd of over 30,000 witnessed what was described as an "astonishing" upset.[19] In September, Secretariat returned to Belmont for the 11⁄2 mile Woodward Stakes in which he was matched against the Allen Jerkens-trained, four-year-old Prove Out. Secretariat led into the straight but was overtaken by Prove Out, who pulled clear to win by 41⁄2 lengths. BEST EVER? 31L win but gets flogged by others straight after?
Margins mean nothing its the horses and pressure in the race at the time that see the best of the best crack under pressure... winning and beating horses of not the same caliber is fine viewing.... but winning and beating champions and having them crack chasing you is what real Champions do.
That's why i have also said Pacemakers are needed in racing and for all those that say there not they obviously don't appreciate champions like Frankel who if not for UK and Timeform ratings would never be let go, and instead would only get average Ratings 130 etc but with Ratings and pacemakers 130 Ratings don't looks as impressive as 147 does it. Hence why most to be stallions get pushed out to the line to secure a high Rating for their future Stud career.
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will it win any more prizemoney by length of winning margin ?
no
no
hang on, first you say let her go, winning by an inch is pathetic !
then go on to say its not how far they win by that counts ??
too long
then go on to say its not how far they win by that counts ??
too long
They didn't go there for the prizemoney they went there to show the world how good she is so show it.
And regarding the margin yes it don't mean nothing in the who is better debate..but it does mean something when the whole world wants to see here let go like they did with Frankel they traveled the whole way over not for the money as he already has said so you want to show the world your champion then do so.
And regarding the margin yes it don't mean nothing in the who is better debate..but it does mean something when the whole world wants to see here let go like they did with Frankel they traveled the whole way over not for the money as he already has said so you want to show the world your champion then do so.
Nolan won't let her go unless her hypertropic
fart valve is workn imo's
fart valve is workn imo's
lol Chante
IMO what P.Moody will say when he legs up Nolen
If she looks like winning by a gap let her go if not hold her easy way out.
IMO what P.Moody will say when he legs up Nolen
If she looks like winning by a gap let her go if not hold her easy way out.
July Stakes I think... Moody said on the news
best she ever been! Lol
best she ever been! Lol
I'm not sure Moody knows that fitness wise but going of her form her last two starts were likely in her bottom 4 best ever runs but she has been set for UK so she likely has been way off in her past two..but still it don't take much to get a sprinter fit but hey that's Moody job not mine of her form she is going into the race under her best with improvement since likely maybe to see her at her best.
Yes she's supposed to be a big chance of going to the July Cup which is why they may be reluctant to take the handbrake off. No Australian trained horse has ever won the July Cup so he would want to prove a point there as well. Starspangledbanner won it but was trained by O'brien during his UK prep.
where has moody said he's keen on the july cup?
I thought they were straight on the plane home after saturday?
I thought they were straight on the plane home after saturday?
He hasn't he said Saturdays race them home so no excuse to not let her go last run of the prep.
if at the races dont have the replays you got to sportinglife.com and they will almost certaintly have them.
How good are the likes of Buffering and Hay List , being from Britain? It's difficult for us to tell.
I's worrying surely that it might be a bog tomorrow.
bilbobaggins Buffering is average Group1 Class Hay List is around 3L behind BC no more
If i was to rate them pommy style i would have
over 1200m
Frankel 141
Black Caviar 141
Hay List 133
Buffering 124
Over 1000m
Frankel 141
Black Caviar 141
Hay List 136
Buffering 128
If i was to rate them pommy style i would have
over 1200m
Frankel 141
Black Caviar 141
Hay List 133
Buffering 124
Over 1000m
Frankel 141
Black Caviar 141
Hay List 136
Buffering 128
Did you know, the root of Frankel's breeding is Greek ...
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If i was to rate them pommy style i would have
over 1200m
Frankel 241
Black Caviar 141
Hay List 133
Buffering 124
Over 1000m
Frankel 241
Black Caviar 141
Hay List 136
Buffering 128
To answer the other fella's question
If BC wasn't in it...and HAY LIST was....... he would win it eeeeeeeeeeeasy.
If neither BC or HL was in it....Buffering......would win...not quite as easy
cheers
over 1200m
Frankel 241
Black Caviar 141
Hay List 133
Buffering 124
Over 1000m
Frankel 241
Black Caviar 141
Hay List 136
Buffering 128
To answer the other fella's question
If BC wasn't in it...and HAY LIST was....... he would win it eeeeeeeeeeeasy.
If neither BC or HL was in it....Buffering......would win...not quite as easy
cheers
Even Black Caviar is Greek for ffs but they stole changed it around in the pedigree books her father was really a Greek champion but they brought him over changed the names around done a fine cotton... his real name when he raced in Greece was Bel Espritolos then when they done the shifty they changed to Bel Esprit criminal if you ask me politics ffs
I thought Bel Espiritos looking famile...
And he's got the Greek foot too haha
bastids... Stavros !!!!!
And he's got the Greek foot too haha
bastids... Stavros !!!!!
Wish Mrs Crow was as generous as Peter ffs 10 inches is not enough for her ffs
You can't rate them like that.. It's Bullshizer IMO
Zedmans you see what Ticmans calls Earlcrow?
Zedmans you see what Ticmans calls Earlcrow?
so the bigger ya feet, tha more action ya get, yeah?
lazza say you had to give them a handicappers rating what would you have them both? for example i would have them equal atm on 141 say u?
Re Ticman no whats he call him?
Re Ticman no whats he call him?
idiot not once did I say frankel wasn't much good I said its never beaten anything apart from nathaniel, who is a proven genuine top class horse, althou8gh when they met I think it was in a maiden, the rest of its opponents have been rubbish. a horse that finished well down the track behind IT last season couldnt get warm in a restricted event at ballarat a country venue here when it raced first up a couple of weeks back. So beating up on the same rubbish at it's last three starts proves nothing and clearly strong suit wasn't anywhere near wound up for that first up run. The only other time it lined up against a genuine top class horse in canford cliffs, that horse broke down and was retired to stud.
It was very impressive the other night in thrashing the same rubbish but if it's such a superstar why be so pissweak and dodge So You Think? Pissweak by the trainer, I'm not saying So You Think would have beaten it but why dodge it, that was a pathetic effort is he now going to dodge So You Think & then Farhh as well for the rest of the summer?
Farhh illustrated what I thought prior to the race the other night that he could easily be Godolphin's best horse for years and years.
It was very impressive the other night in thrashing the same rubbish but if it's such a superstar why be so pissweak and dodge So You Think? Pissweak by the trainer, I'm not saying So You Think would have beaten it but why dodge it, that was a pathetic effort is he now going to dodge So You Think & then Farhh as well for the rest of the summer?
Farhh illustrated what I thought prior to the race the other night that he could easily be Godolphin's best horse for years and years.
Yes I would have them equal... But personally I
rate him better over a mile and prob equal
over 1400m.
Calls him Wormans as in early bird gets the worms lol
rate him better over a mile and prob equal
over 1400m.
Calls him Wormans as in early bird gets the worms lol
Lets elope you been bagging Frankel from day one and why do you have to call me a idiot when i obviously hit a nerve with you every time someone proves you wrong you have to get into name calling.
And since your the best judge going around going around according to you could you not see that he is a superstar just by watching like everyone else or do you need a clock and formline to tell you that?
I thought a good Judge can spot talent just by observing a horse race obviously you need clocks formlines margins and everything needed by a wank$r like yourself after the race hence why your known as the after timing king on this forum...
Your a Genius after every race never before and before you go tell as about some winner you tipped Craig last year go back through all your selections and tell us how much your winning? Bet Zero!
What i have seen..your the worst Judge on here hands down and im not fcking kidding all you know is how to talk after the race is run like a million other form experts but before the race if you tip a horse ............all form analysts are going back to their formguides thinking where the fck did i go wrong before a race.
One minute your sports betting and only talking sports the next your Harness expert the next thoroughbreds then after you come on the raceday thread for weeks with one winner in 10 selections and usually favorite you switch to Harness and now sports your a MUG Lets Elope if i ever seen one!
btw keep calling me a idiot and i will rip your fcking .......... you fcking dog c@nt
And since your the best judge going around going around according to you could you not see that he is a superstar just by watching like everyone else or do you need a clock and formline to tell you that?
I thought a good Judge can spot talent just by observing a horse race obviously you need clocks formlines margins and everything needed by a wank$r like yourself after the race hence why your known as the after timing king on this forum...
Your a Genius after every race never before and before you go tell as about some winner you tipped Craig last year go back through all your selections and tell us how much your winning? Bet Zero!
What i have seen..your the worst Judge on here hands down and im not fcking kidding all you know is how to talk after the race is run like a million other form experts but before the race if you tip a horse ............all form analysts are going back to their formguides thinking where the fck did i go wrong before a race.
One minute your sports betting and only talking sports the next your Harness expert the next thoroughbreds then after you come on the raceday thread for weeks with one winner in 10 selections and usually favorite you switch to Harness and now sports your a MUG Lets Elope if i ever seen one!
btw keep calling me a idiot and i will rip your fcking .......... you fcking dog c@nt
You are an idiot tbf.
A deluded foul mouthed mug also imo.
A deluded foul mouthed mug also imo.
wtf TT i was joking when i called you a Cn7t and you have taken it like the biggest girl around wtf lol?
Sorry Zedative i am used to being attacked for no reason on this forum.
I cant believe you took that seriously i even had wink on the end ffs
topfarrier
22 Jun 12 12:36 Joined: 10 Sep 10 | Topic/replies: 2,457 | Blogger: topfarrier's blog
You are an idiot tbf.
A deluded foul mouthed mug also imo.
Sounds fair
22 Jun 12 12:36 Joined: 10 Sep 10 | Topic/replies: 2,457 | Blogger: topfarrier's blog
You are an idiot tbf.
A deluded foul mouthed mug also imo.
Sounds fair
Zeditave far be it from me to attempt to conduct an intelligent debate with someone who clearly is out on day release but am still waiting for any evidence where I said he was no good, good luck finding it because I never said that at any stage. At no stage did I say he was no good I said he's a very good horse but his rating is nowhere near justified until he actually beats something with some ability, the form line around him is shocking to say the least, pathetic would be closer to the truth.
You can be as impressive as you like against also rans, until you actually beat something you deserve a relatively high rating but certainly not the greatest of all time. So may I suggest that you take some chill pills and go have a good lie down before you do yourself a serious injury.
You can be as impressive as you like against also rans, until you actually beat something you deserve a relatively high rating but certainly not the greatest of all time. So may I suggest that you take some chill pills and go have a good lie down before you do yourself a serious injury.
Bag his formline but then say when he wins by 11L where did i say his not a good horse fcking to$$er!
Only you could come up with that unbelievable truly amazing but coming from the after timing king totally understandable.
Still waiting with bated breath for you to bring forth the evidence that I said Frankel is no good, I'm tipping that I'll be waiting for hell to freeze over seeing I never said it. I actually like the horse what I object to is it's ridiculous rating of the worlds greatest racehorse not only currently but of all time which is laughable until it actually beats something of note, which it has yet to do. there There are many unbias judges on the UK forum who say exactly the same thing. The timeform ratings are a joke when you see them interviewed gushing about how much we love the horse, hardly makes a case for them being objective in their assessment and surely that's the whole point of ratings. They rated their cat sprinters ahead of haylist for fark sake, any shred of credibility they had went right out the window with that one.
Your have clearly bagged the horse fck Timeform and there ratings your come up with rubbish like Camelot is this and that and he needs to beat camelot to prove how good he is ... who are you to say the horses he has been beating are no good as i said the horse finishing 2nd twice now behind Frankel has been flogging his opposition when Frankel is not in the race.
You cant have it both ways Camelot is better now talking up the horse SYT beat that fin 3rd is this and that Frankel dodging SYT all that rubbish Frankels formlines are Rubbish but Camelots and SYT are good get your head out of your arse your clearly bagging Frankel and giving the biggest wrap to everything around him all because you get into debates on here with the poms and cant admit that he is a good horse now and also cant admit you have no idea when it comes to horse racing. Get over your pride and say it as it is Frankel is a superstar but no instead everything else racing around him is LOLOL fcking To$$er
You cant have it both ways Camelot is better now talking up the horse SYT beat that fin 3rd is this and that Frankel dodging SYT all that rubbish Frankels formlines are Rubbish but Camelots and SYT are good get your head out of your arse your clearly bagging Frankel and giving the biggest wrap to everything around him all because you get into debates on here with the poms and cant admit that he is a good horse now and also cant admit you have no idea when it comes to horse racing. Get over your pride and say it as it is Frankel is a superstar but no instead everything else racing around him is LOLOL fcking To$$er
Relax dude. Simple fact is Excelebration has won half a million pounds. If he is comfortably beating the opposition without Frankel, it really is a big statement that there is nothing of note in the race.
Reality is, SYT has was 300% of what Frankel has won, and raced over 7f-16f over about 5 countries. Frankel has raced in his backyard and beaten nothing. Yes he beat them by plenty, but lets be real here. He chose the lowest prize money race of the carnival. Best horse in history? Please.
Reality is, SYT has was 300% of what Frankel has won, and raced over 7f-16f over about 5 countries. Frankel has raced in his backyard and beaten nothing. Yes he beat them by plenty, but lets be real here. He chose the lowest prize money race of the carnival. Best horse in history? Please.
Best horse in history?
Yeah, ridiculous term in itself.
Longevity is a big factor in my personal recognition of "Champions".
He won't be given the opportunity to pass that criteria.
Lots of amazing one and two year """champions"""
Many fewer with longevity.
imo
Yeah, ridiculous term in itself.
Longevity is a big factor in my personal recognition of "Champions".
He won't be given the opportunity to pass that criteria.
Lots of amazing one and two year """champions"""
Many fewer with longevity.
imo
Excelebration has won half a million pounds, because he is racing in a country where the prizemoney is terrible bring him to Aus ad he runs circles around our horses
So why the **** isn't he here doing that? Running for pennies, in races he can't win.. Race for double down here, in races where he can't lose?
Answer is simple. Because it is a load of ****.
Answer is simple. Because it is a load of ****.
BJT since when did you become a expert on UK formlines?
I am an expert on money and human psychology... Simple fact is horses are running round for either stud value, or prize money. If, as you say, Excelebration could be dominant down here, for races worth twice as much, then it makes perfect sense that he would indeed do that.
Just the same as Frankel, who with the hype right now has already done enough to earn top stud value, who is touted as a 10-12f horse, would be running in the top prize money events, knowing he is the best horse in the history of the world, rather than running around in the cheapies......
Facts are, he is dodging risk. And horses like SYT are a big risk for him. SYT destroys Excelebration in work. Be honest with yourself.
Just the same as Frankel, who with the hype right now has already done enough to earn top stud value, who is touted as a 10-12f horse, would be running in the top prize money events, knowing he is the best horse in the history of the world, rather than running around in the cheapies......
Facts are, he is dodging risk. And horses like SYT are a big risk for him. SYT destroys Excelebration in work. Be honest with yourself.
Excelebration was a neck in front of a 113 rated borderline gr2 horse and further 1 length in front of a German maiden!!!
it has beaten beacon lodge & rio de la plata in its last two wins Im not even counting those ants it beat in Ireland first up as a race more like a glorified barrier trial. Beacon lodge & rio del la plata hardly rank up there with the greats of european racing when frankel comes up against an in form something like an inform danedream,( dont know if tis still around) nathaniel, so you think, farhh etc and spanks them then it might start to actually earn its rating or if comes against an emerging star in camelot. I would still happily back camelot against it at this stage when and if they actually meet.
I doubt they meet. Reality is cotton wool is the theme and 11 races is more than what the UK require to pay ridiculous amounts at stud and book tickets to the hall of fame.
Yes, Frankel is a magnificent horse. No doubt. But lets be real here. All this hype bullshit, a lot bought about by rubbish ratings, has to be taken for what it is. A good horse beating nothing, dodging everything.
Yes, Frankel is a magnificent horse. No doubt. But lets be real here. All this hype bullshit, a lot bought about by rubbish ratings, has to be taken for what it is. A good horse beating nothing, dodging everything.
BJT well you claim to be a expert in racing...betting on all states and sports while at it....you would be the only person who is successful betting on more then one state on the nags and sports to boot at the same time.
TF he would still be super hard to beat vs Aussie milers
You guys a clueless really if you cant see how good Frankel really is the horse moves like no horse i seen move the past decade i don't care who he has beat he would clearly beat all those mentioned including SYT with ease and i mean with ease only a horse like BC could make him crack and thats a big maybe if they were to race at a distance both were suited which is unlikely all the rest cant run with him.
More than happy to back more joyous over a mile at randwick against excelebratio,n she would give him a cold.
I suppose its true that the pace of your races would suit him better Zed.
While its true that Frankel hasn't beat anything yet he hasn't dodged anything yet either imo.
Also he can only beat whats put in front of him i suppose and he could not do it any easier.
Also he can only beat whats put in front of him i suppose and he could not do it any easier.
Well if it would beat them so easily explain why the trainer won't take them on. Black Caviar takes on the best and runs in every top race and even travels 3/4 of the way around the world to risk her reputation, this horse doesn't race out of his own backyard and refuses to line up against anything resembling a top class racehorse yet somehow it's the greatest horse of all time, please, pull the other one it plays jingle bells.
No doubt he was super impressive at both runs back this time in, put most top class horses against that lot and they would have spanked them as well. Maybe not by 11 lengths but spanked them nevertheless.
The way this lot talk about frankel it's seabiscuit, man of war, phar lap, kingston town, northerly, sunline, miesque and makybe diva all wrapped into one and yet somehow it's still never beaten a single genuine top quality horse.
No doubt he was super impressive at both runs back this time in, put most top class horses against that lot and they would have spanked them as well. Maybe not by 11 lengths but spanked them nevertheless.
The way this lot talk about frankel it's seabiscuit, man of war, phar lap, kingston town, northerly, sunline, miesque and makybe diva all wrapped into one and yet somehow it's still never beaten a single genuine top quality horse.
bring him to Aus ad he runs circles around our horses
30 minutes later and it's
TF he would still be super hard to beat vs Aussie milers
gibberer
30 minutes later and it's
TF he would still be super hard to beat vs Aussie milers
gibberer
here he goes copying pasting anything and everything like he does with Monday Mike
yes he would run circles around our horses not More Joyous but most of the rest yes
yes he would run circles around our horses not More Joyous but most of the rest yes
Wouldn't take a world to run rings around your lot tbf......
name a few of our good group one horse he would runs rings around, hell I would back luckygray to beat excelebration over a mile at ascot or belmont or flemington in his current form I wont say randwick because we dont know if he goes in the other direction or not.
to start with all the horse that finished behind MJ in the Group 1 Doncaster
that wwas an age ago I can't remember who finished behind her.
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monton's run in the villiers would have him beating excelebration on Monton's best form, secret admirer in her epsom form would beat him shoot out over the randwick mile would definitely handle him, there's about three or four for starters and that's also a far more competitive field than frankel lined against the other night
monton's run in the villiers would have him beating excelebration on Monton's best form,
guessing with great confidence...gotta love it
guessing with great confidence...gotta love it
Spoon remember drum taps and double trigger they were all going to obliterate our horses yet when they travelled they were as meek as mice.
good night one and all visiting hours at the asylum are over and it's time for me to go home. don't do yourself any injuries in the interim
a six len win is equivlent to a 10-12 lens win at the mile, people dont realise that. imagine the winning margins if she was ridden out each time.
L Nolen riding to instructions..wins by an inch
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