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I can't believe I'm still here ...
Megsy, no idea as usual.
Megsy, no idea as usual.
Hmmmm, as Mike Williamson famously said........ "I TIPPED THIS!!"
As the two gunslingers (Lazza and HKR) sized each other up with a few barbs....
I stated the obvious...... This Forum aint big enough for the both ofya...
SOMEONE"S GONNA DIE TONIGHT
After Lazza appeared to lay down his guns, HKR began burbling to himself on a ridiculous
knockknock thread. I advised him that while Lazza was restin, outside the Saloon down yonder,
he should walk around the corner nearin the Blacksmiths and RUN!!
It appears he did...
or did he ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-2hAJy_35w&feature=related
LAZZA???
As the two gunslingers (Lazza and HKR) sized each other up with a few barbs....
I stated the obvious...... This Forum aint big enough for the both ofya...
SOMEONE"S GONNA DIE TONIGHT
After Lazza appeared to lay down his guns, HKR began burbling to himself on a ridiculous
knockknock thread. I advised him that while Lazza was restin, outside the Saloon down yonder,
he should walk around the corner nearin the Blacksmiths and RUN!!
It appears he did...
or did he ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-2hAJy_35w&feature=related
LAZZA???
Was that fast or was fast I mean was that FAST!...I thought it was fast!
I hope so.
Half the time I don't know what the hell he's talking about but he livens the joint up a bit!
Half the time I don't know what the hell he's talking about but he livens the joint up a bit!
The only half you understand is when your blind drunk ffs
Seems another thread has bitten the dust. Sir Godfrey's party.
I thought you overstepped the mark with that crack about Grant Hackett OldCrow. Shame on you.
I thought you overstepped the mark with that crack about Grant Hackett OldCrow. Shame on you.
Nice work, Whoopi 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geYszCBkRBM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geYszCBkRBM
HKR gone 
he knows his stuff imo, always good to have him around
he knows his stuff imo, always good to have him around
Didn't take them long to pull mine about my account being hacked into and my $1100 blown in 3 bets.
Baffles me that Betfair haven't done more to alert customers of the threat.
Baffles me that Betfair haven't done more to alert customers of the threat.
PBAus .. did you get to read any replies ?
question .. do you use a 3rd party betting tool to access your BF account .. or the standard interface ?
and if you have not logged in 10 times since the incident ... you can still see the ip addresses of all accesses to your a/c
goto My Account (up near your balance)
then go to My Security (down the left hand side)
are they all from the same pc ... especially the day in question
question .. do you use a 3rd party betting tool to access your BF account .. or the standard interface ?
and if you have not logged in 10 times since the incident ... you can still see the ip addresses of all accesses to your a/c
goto My Account (up near your balance)
then go to My Security (down the left hand side)
are they all from the same pc ... especially the day in question
Pretty clear to me that as I've been here for about 4 days running without being banned ... Village Kid / Aussie Driver is the only regular that hates me that hasn't been here ... pretty clear to me who's been getting me banned in the past!
Yes ...
It seems to me that BF are pretty naive with regard to their obligations under the law of the land in which they choose to operate.
A couple of examples are PBA's issues and my issues re: NSW Anti-Discrimination Legislation.
They also seem to me to be a lot like many of the guys that post on this forum. They think they can do what they like because it's their product/company, and they also search for legal advice until they hear one of them say what they want to hear. A very naive way of operating, and it's no surprise to me that they lost a court case that they should never have even gone to court about.
It seems to me that BF are pretty naive with regard to their obligations under the law of the land in which they choose to operate.
A couple of examples are PBA's issues and my issues re: NSW Anti-Discrimination Legislation.
They also seem to me to be a lot like many of the guys that post on this forum. They think they can do what they like because it's their product/company, and they also search for legal advice until they hear one of them say what they want to hear. A very naive way of operating, and it's no surprise to me that they lost a court case that they should never have even gone to court about.
i was thinking more of a 'less personal' relationship than that between a 'forum member and their threads' and any 'laws of the land' sorry lol 
... i was thinking more on ... how could a scenario such as PBAus mentioned occur
... in that was it his own pc that was compromised .. thru either another person accessing it ... or its particular method of accessing the betfair interface
... and then did BF check on who matched the rogue 3 bets at the 'other end' ... and did they communicate to PBAus this info to alleviate any of his genuine concerns
... i was thinking more on ... how could a scenario such as PBAus mentioned occur
... in that was it his own pc that was compromised .. thru either another person accessing it ... or its particular method of accessing the betfair interface
... and then did BF check on who matched the rogue 3 bets at the 'other end' ... and did they communicate to PBAus this info to alleviate any of his genuine concerns
cheers SG ... and welcome back
the last point naturally addresses the 'feelings' of the bettor
the first two points attempt to address the issue of 'how this occured' ... and how bettor's might be better safeguarded in the future
the last point naturally addresses the 'feelings' of the bettor
the first two points attempt to address the issue of 'how this occured' ... and how bettor's might be better safeguarded in the future
you still trading on the UK races TQ?? If so, how are you going with it all if you don't mind me asking?
I've been working damn hard on a website for a community organisation that I'm donating to them. Although the UK races are starting earlier this time of year I'm usually up early and in bed early as a result.
The UK races are best to trade on though, especially in-play on hurdle/steeples.
I'm a small punter and trader as you know. But a month or so ago I needed to find some money quickly so I traded with a bank of $1,000 and a stake of $800 for a few days, very risky I know, but I made $1,600 in 5 days which covered what I needed. I was happy with that,
The UK races are best to trade on though, especially in-play on hurdle/steeples.
I'm a small punter and trader as you know. But a month or so ago I needed to find some money quickly so I traded with a bank of $1,000 and a stake of $800 for a few days, very risky I know, but I made $1,600 in 5 days which covered what I needed. I was happy with that,
Nice work TQ, nothing like punting when there is a need for quick return and it comes off.
Do you purely follow the movements or do you do some form as well i.e. work out who goes back and forward in a race.
I have been up late and seen a few of the races and am amazed by the swings in the market inplay. Seems like a traders paradise.
Do you purely follow the movements or do you do some form as well i.e. work out who goes back and forward in a race.
I have been up late and seen a few of the races and am amazed by the swings in the market inplay. Seems like a traders paradise.
No form ...
Pre-race a horse's price usually swings between a high and low point ... watch for a while and then jump in at the bottom if you can. Don't get too greedy. If I can't match something I ususlly leave it in play in those long races ...
I've noticed that "truth-time" is damn accurate over there, so even just punting without any form might work okay.
Pre-race a horse's price usually swings between a high and low point ... watch for a while and then jump in at the bottom if you can. Don't get too greedy. If I can't match something I ususlly leave it in play in those long races ...
I've noticed that "truth-time" is damn accurate over there, so even just punting without any form might work okay.
I am intending to be up and watching during the Royal Ascot carnival. I may have a go at it with a monkey bank and see how things end up. Same for Tennis, the swings and liquidity are quite staggering at times.
Just wondered. Seems to be the best app for trading. Good if you can be profitable with UK markets as you know betfair will be there for a while.
Thebas - I did get to see some of the replies and thanks for yours. I have been flat out all week as i wanted to respond to some of them either via message or another thread like this.
To answer your questions:
question .. do you use a 3rd party betting tool to access your BF account .. or the standard interface ?
I do use a 3rd party betting tool. I have wondered about that and whether or not it might have had anything to do with a security problem. I am going to get on to them and pose the question. That said, Betfair didn't even ask me the question during my conversations with them.
are they all (ip's) from the same pc ... especially the day in question
No they aren't and there is no dispute about that with Betfair. They say it is clear to them that my account suffered an 'unauthorised access'. They just say it is my fault and then stand behind their terms and conditions.
My issue with them is twofold really:
Firstly, they handled the issue really badly and tried to fob me off as an idiot when it first came to light and secondly, and much more importantly, that given that this is not an isolated incident they have failed to ever communicate to their customers to urge extra vigilance.
To answer your questions:
question .. do you use a 3rd party betting tool to access your BF account .. or the standard interface ?
I do use a 3rd party betting tool. I have wondered about that and whether or not it might have had anything to do with a security problem. I am going to get on to them and pose the question. That said, Betfair didn't even ask me the question during my conversations with them.
are they all (ip's) from the same pc ... especially the day in question
No they aren't and there is no dispute about that with Betfair. They say it is clear to them that my account suffered an 'unauthorised access'. They just say it is my fault and then stand behind their terms and conditions.
My issue with them is twofold really:
Firstly, they handled the issue really badly and tried to fob me off as an idiot when it first came to light and secondly, and much more importantly, that given that this is not an isolated incident they have failed to ever communicate to their customers to urge extra vigilance.
cheers PBAus ... thx & good fortunes with all this ... an awful scenario and scary for any BF account holder ...
the security token idea proposed earlier by Harry i think (even if us the user has to pay for it) would ensure this could not happen to one other person again
the security token idea proposed earlier by Harry i think (even if us the user has to pay for it) would ensure this could not happen to one other person again
so....now after PB's post on this thread the "a lot of threads missing this morning" thread is itself bound to go missing.
there should be a "Graveyard Forum" whoopi .. where all the deleted threads go to ... to get buried
a/c holders could these request a special login ... just to re-visit these on a lazy night ... or such (better than some movies lol)
and one might slightly be forgiven for believing in ... 'conspiracies' ... after all this 'unrequired' deletion rubbish lol
a/c holders could these request a special login ... just to re-visit these on a lazy night ... or such (better than some movies lol)
and one might slightly be forgiven for believing in ... 'conspiracies' ... after all this 'unrequired' deletion rubbish lol
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