So Turnover = $40,000,000 and Gross Revenue needs to be $1,680,000 therefore the commission rate needs to average
drumroll
4.2%
which is an increase of roughly 1.5% - what the??? I did all this to work out that the turnover tax and increase in commission would be the same??? am I wrong???
well actually it means the average commission would need to go up roughly 53%
I'm in holdiday mode and my brain is only half working, does someone want to chech my figures???
note - there are plenty of assumptions in these figures
My only comment if BF did increase its commission by 53% or higher would be that this would have a significant effect on the number of punters that win over the long run. BF would become unprofitable except for a v small no of punters.
My only comment if BF did increase its commission by 53% or higher would be that this would have a significant effect on the number of punters that win over the long run. BF would become unprofitable except for a v small no of punters.
not enough to make a living and not enough margin for error.
i'd be off looking for a real job
i pay 3% commissionand make about 2% on turnoverif that goes to 4.6% (53% increase )i would make 0.4 % on turnovernot enough to make a living and not enough margin for error.i'd be off looking for a real job
aachen, i think it is worse than that calculation b/c you dont pay 3% commission on turnover. you pay on profit from winning markets & don't get a refund of commission on losing markets. It is impossible to calculate the effect but it would be bad!
aachen, i think it is worse than that calculation b/c you dont pay 3% commission on turnover. you pay on profit from winning markets & don't get a refund of commission on losing markets. It is impossible to calculate the effect but it would be bad!
my bad calculations or worse, I can't make it work for me !!!
I pay betfair about $55 000 a year.
that goes to noting if i don't put money through !!!
I think betfair will pass some of the cost to users
but not the whole amount.
hahahaha thanks Kyemy bad calculations or worse, I can't make it work for me !!!I pay betfair about $55 000 a year.that goes to noting if i don't put money through !!!I think betfair will pass some of the cost to usersbut not the whole amount.
Well say you have $10,000 at $1.01 and it wins, you make $100 and pay BF 5% commission = $5
Betfair must pay 1.5% turn over tax.
$10,000 x 1.5% = $150
Betfair just lost $145!
In the above example even if they took 100% commission, all your winnings(!) they still lose on the transaction!
Well say you have $10,000 at $1.01 and it wins, you make $100 and pay BF 5% commission = $5Betfair must pay 1.5% turn over tax.$10,000 x 1.5% = $150Betfair just lost $145!In the above example even if they took 100% commission, all your winnings(!) th
It's only a matter of time that the NSW decision will open the floodgates for other states. The tax imposed makes it totally not viable to operate in Australia. Betfair cannot be competitive with other products on offer. Commission on turnover means that either Betfair will lose out (which isn't going to happen), or punters will no longer be able to operate successfully.
It's only a matter of time that the NSW decision will open the floodgates for other states. The tax imposed makes it totally not viable to operate in Australia. Betfair cannot be competitive with other products on offer.Commission on turnover means t
I don't mind that argument Lazza in isolation. But the issue is when that 'bookie' (in this case an exchange layer) wants to bet back. In NSW the bookie gets a rebate for that. So the bookie can 'trade' but an exchange play can't? That's unfair. Just another piece that's unfair!
I don't mind that argument Lazza in isolation. But the issue is when that 'bookie' (in this case an exchange layer) wants to bet back. In NSW the bookie gets a rebate for that. So the bookie can 'trade' but an exchange play can't? That's unfair. Jus