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Easyland surely.
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Easysland would look like one of the more obvious ones at this stage.
Taking the Cross Country defeat of Tiger Roll literally, unlikely I know, what sort of mark would the handicapper be looking to give him for the National? It's a tricky one for sure. Easyslands' current mark is 152 and Tiger Rolls'173, with the latter's last National win coming off 159. 25/1 Easysland. Thoughts? |
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i am on potters corner at 33/1
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Kimberlite Candy and Cloth Cap for me
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Tiger Roll
© Photo Healy Racing Tiger Roll could line up in the Irish Grand National if connections decide not to bid for a famous hat-trick at Aintree. The Gordon Elliott-trained 11-year-old won the Randox Grand National in both 2018 and 2019, but was denied the chance to emulate Red Rum as a three-times winner when last year’s renewal was cancelled due to the coronavirus pandemic. Michael O’Leary, who owns Tiger Roll through his Gigginstown House Stud outfit, has made no secret of the fact he is dissatisfied with the gelding’s current British handicap mark of 168, particularly as he has been well beaten in his four starts since his Aintree verdict two years ago. With the National weights due to be announced later this month, O’Leary wants to see a reduction in Tiger Roll’s mark if he is to have any chance of lining up at Aintree. He told Racing TV’s Luck On Sunday programme: “He last won the National off 159. He’s run four times since and has not finished in the frame. He was beaten by Easysland by 17 lengths off level weights — Easysland is now rated 167, yet somehow Tiger Roll is still rated around 170. “I think if he rates him fairly, somewhere in the 150s then he’ll run in the Grand National. If he rates him in the 160s or 170s, he won’t and we’ll take him out after the weights. “The plan for Gordon and Eddie (O’Leary racing manager) has always been to take him to the Cross Country at Cheltenham, where I believe he will be kicked out of the way again by Easysland, and then I think the options are possibly retirement or we may look at an entry in the Irish Grand National, where I think he would be more fairly weighted. “We’ve a responsibility to the horse. He owes us nothing, he’s a four-time winner at Cheltenham and a two-time Grand National winner. “He’s getting older, he may not run again after Cheltenham. His last couple of runs suggest he’s not in love with the game anymore and the priority at this point is minding Tiger Roll.” |
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Why didn't he just say "please write me a cheque for £750,000" ? Wins easily off 159 and is still only 11 yr old and yet the arrogant muppets try and dictate that they want even less weight !! Top weight and if they don't like it then clear off. National is bigger than any one horse. In fact it's the O'Learys etc that have ruined it.
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The olearys dont run the national
Its the BHA you should be at They bowed to the antis Now its just a long steeplechase |
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THE RANDOX GRAND NATIONAL WEIGHTS EVENT
LIVE TUESDAY 16 FEBRUARY AT 11.30AM It's here! Tomorrow morning from 11:30 The Randox Grand National Weights will be unveiled. The Weights usually take place with a small and exclusive audience as horseracing fans eagerly await the announcements that follow the event. However, for the first time the whole event will be available for everyone to enjoy live. The live event will be streamed on our social media channels. Don't miss out! |
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1 Bristol de Mai (FR) 10 11 10 167 Mr Simon Munir & Mr Isaac Souede Nigel Twiston-Davies
2Easysland (FR) 7 11 10 167 Mr John P. McManus D. Cottin FR 3 Santini (GB) 9 11 10 167 Mr & Mrs R. Kelvin-Hughes Nicky Henderson 4 Delta Work (FR) 8 11 9 166 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 5 Presenting Percy (GB) 10 11 9 166 Philip J. Reynolds Gordon Elliott IRE 6 Tiger Roll (IRE) 11 11 9 166 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 7 The Storyteller (IRE) 10 11 8 165 Mrs Pat Sloan Gordon Elliott IRE 8 Chris's Dream (IRE) 9 11 7 164 Robcour Henry de Bromhead IRE 9 Battleoverdoyen (IRE) 8 11 5 162 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 10 Yala Enki (FR) 11 11 3 160 Hills of Ledbury Ltd Paul Nicholls 11 Ballyoptic (IRE) 11 11 1 158 Mills & Mason Partnership Nigel Twiston-Davies 12 Definitly Red (IRE) 12 11 1 158 Phil & Julie Martin Brian Ellison 13 Lake View Lad (IRE) 11 11 0 157 Mr Trevor Hemmings N. W. Alexander 14 Ajas (FR) 7 10 13 156 Mr Ulf Sjoberg D. Cottin FR 15 Burrows Saint (FR) 8 10 13 156 Mrs S. Ricci W. P. Mullins IRE 16 Magic of Light (IRE) 10 10 13 156 Ann & Alan Potts Limited Mrs J. Harrington IRE 17 Acapella Bourgeois (FR) 11 10 12 155 Slaneyville Syndicate W. P. Mullins IRE 18 Anibale Fly (FR) 11 10 12 155 Mr John P. McManus A. J. Martin IRE 19 Aso (FR) 11 10 12 155 The Bellamy Partnership Venetia Williams 20 Mister Malarky (GB) 8 10 12 155 Wendy & Malcolm Hezel Colin Tizzard 21 Talkischeap (IRE) 9 10 12 155 Mr Charles Dingwall Alan King 22 Tout Est Permis (FR) 8 10 12 155 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade 23 Bellshill (IRE) 11 10 10 153 D & D Armstrong Ltd & Mr L Westwood Sandy Thomson 24 Beware The Bear (IRE) 11 10 10 153 Mr G. B. Barlow Nicky Henderson 25 Kimberlite Candy (IRE) 9 10 10 153 Mr John P. McManus Tom Lacey 26 Pym (IRE) 8 10 10 153 Mrs Patricia Pugh Nicky Henderson 27 Alpha des Obeaux (FR) 11 10 9 152 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 28 Al Roc (FR) 10 10 9 152 Comedy Club Partnership Dr Richard Newland 29 Any Second Now (IRE) 9 10 9 152 Mr John P. McManus T. M. Walsh IRE 30 Balko des Flos (FR) 10 10 9 152 Gigginstown House Stud Henry de Bromhead IRE 31 Brahma Bull (IRE) 10 10 8 151 Mrs S. Ricci W. P. Mullins IRE 32 Champagne Classic (IRE) 10 10 8 151 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 33 Ok Corral (IRE) 11 10 8 151 Mr John P. McManus Nicky Henderson 34 Articulum (IRE) 11 10 7 150 Martin McDonagh/Paul G Murphy/M J Nixon Terence O'Brien IRE 35 Jett (IRE) 10 10 7 150 Mr Robert Waley-Cohen Mrs J. Harrington IRE 36 Shattered Love (IRE) 10 10 7 150 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 37 Takingrisks (IRE) 12 10 7 150 Mr Frank Bird Nicky Richards 38 The Jam Man (IRE) 8 10 7 150 Ronan M. P. McNally Ronan M. P. McNally IRE 39 Class Conti (FR) 9 10 6 149 Mr Simon Munir/Mr Isaac Souede W. P. Mullins IRE 40 Discorama (FR) 8 10 6 149 Thomas Friel/Andrew Gemmell Paul Nolan IRE 41 Lord du Mesnil (FR) 8 10 6 149 Mr Paul Porter & Mike & Mandy Smith Richard Hobson 42 Milan Native (IRE) 8 10 6 149 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 43 Potters Corner (IRE) 11 10 6 149 All Stars Sports Racing & J Davies Christian Williams 44 The Conditional (IRE) 9 10 6 149 Mr P. J. Cave David Bridgwater 45 Cabaret Queen (GB) 9 10 5 148 Syndicates.Racing W. P. Mullins IRE 46 Cloth Cap (IRE) 9 10 5 148 Mr Trevor Hemmings Jonjo O'Neill 47 Minellacelebration (IRE) 11 10 5 148 Mr Nick Elliott Katy Price00 48 Robin des Foret (IRE) 11 10 5 148 Byerley Racing Syndicate W. P. Mullins IRE 49 Vieux Lion Rouge (FR) 12 10 5 148 Prof Caroline Tisdall & Mr John Gent David Pipe 50 Canelo (IRE) 8 10 4 147 Mr John P. McManus Alan King 51 Give Me A Copper (IRE) 11 10 4 147 Done, Ferguson, Mason, Nicholls & Wood Paul Nicholls 52 Glen Forsa (IRE) 9 10 4 147 Mr T. P. Radford Mick Channon 53 The Long Mile (GB) 7 10 4 147 Mr John P. McManus J.P.Dempsey IRE 54 Yorkhill (IRE) 11 10 4 147 D & D Armstrong Ltd & Mr L Westwood Sandy Thomson 55 Agusta Gold (IRE) 8 10 3 146 K.Leavy/F.W.Healy/L.Cribbin/Ms Mullins Ms Margaret Mullins IRE 56 Farclas (FR) 7 10 3 146 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 57 Hogan's Height (IRE) 10 10 3 146 Foxtrot Racing: Hogan's Height Jamie Snowden 58 Minella Times (IRE) 8 10 3 146 Mr John P. McManus Henry de Bromhead IRE 59 Sub Lieutenant (IRE) 12 10 3 146 Ms G. Howell Georgie Howell 60 Ami Desbois (FR) 11 10 2 145 The Reserved Judgment Partnership Graeme McPherson 61 Blaklion (GB) 12 10 2 145 Darren & Annaley Yates Dan Skelton 62 Double Shuffle (IRE) 11 10 2 145 Crossed Fingers Partnership Tom George 63 Gold Present (IRE) 11 10 2 145 Mr and Mrs J. D. Cotton Nicky Henderson 64 Keeper Hill (IRE) 10 10 2 145 McNeill Family Warren Greatrex 65 Moyhenna (IRE) 9 10 2 145 Mr R. V. Hennelly Denis G. Hogan B IRE 66 Death Duty (IRE) 10 10 1 144 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 67 Secret Reprieve (IRE) 7 10 1 144 Mr & Mrs William Rucker Evan Williams 68 Some Neck (FR) 10 10 1 144 Some Neck Partnership John McConnell IRE 69 Rocky's Treasure (IRE) 10 10 0 143 Mr J. Perriss Kim Bailey 70 Cap du Nord (FR) 8 9 13 142 The Can't Say No Partnership Christian Williams 71 Deise Aba (IRE) 8 9 13 142 Mr Trevor Hemmings Philip Hobbs 72 Fagan (GB) 11 9 13 142 Mr Ben Brackenbury Alex Hales 73 Golan Fortune (IRE) 9 9 13 142 P Middleton, M Lowther Phil Middleton 74 Jerrysback (IRE) 9 9 13 142 Mr John P. McManus Philip Hobbs 75 Kauto Riko (FR) 10 9 13 142 Mr and Mrs J.Dale and Partners Tom Gretton 76 Saturnas (FR) 10 9 13 142 Mr Nick Peacock W. P. Mullins IRE 77 Storm Control (IRE) 8 9 13 142 Mr Will Roseff Kerry Lee 78 Valtor (FR) 12 9 13 142 Mr Simon Munir & Mr Isaac Souede Nicky Henderson 79 Another Venture (IRE) 10 9 11 140 Racing For Maggie's Partnership Kim Bailey 80 Captain Drake (IRE) 8 9 11 140 Gary Stevens and Brian and Sandy Lambert Harry Fry 81 Crievehill (IRE) 9 9 11 140 Highclere T'Bred Racing- Crievehill Nigel Twiston-Davies 82 Run Wild Fred (IRE) 7 9 11 140 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 83 The Hollow Ginge (IRE) 8 9 11 140 The Ginge Army Nigel Twiston-Davies 84 Fitzhenry (IRE) 9 9 10 139 Mr John P. McManus Paul Nolan IRE 85 Flying Angel (IRE) 10 9 10 139 Mr R. J. Rexton Nigel Twiston-Davies 86 Le Breuil (FR) 9 9 10 139 Mrs Emma Palmer Ben Pauling 87 Prime Venture (IRE) 10 9 10 139 Mrs Janet Davies Evan Williams 88 Achille (FR) 11 9 9 138 Mrs Vida Bingham Venetia Williams 89 A Toi Phil (FR) 11 9 9 138 Teme Valley 2 Gary Moore 90 Dounikos (FR) 10 9 9 138 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 91 Hold The Note (IRE) 7 9 9 138 Mr T. P. Radford Mick Channon 92 Plan of Attack (IRE) 8 9 9 138 Mr A. Halsall Henry de Bromhead IRE 93 Roaring Bull (IRE) 8 9 9 138 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 94 Musical Slave (IRE) 8 9 8 137 Mr John P. McManus Philip Hobbs 95 Soupy Soups (IRE) 10 9 8 137 Equi ex Incertis Partners Neil Mulholland 96 Treacysenniscorthy (IRE) 9 9 8 137 Paula Widger Robert Widger IRE 97 Beau Bay (FR) 10 9 7 136 Mr Peter Green & Dr RDP Newland Dr Richard Newland 98 Hear No Evil (IRE) 9 9 7 136 Mr Patrick Joseph McCartan Noel C. Kelly IRE 99 Shantou Flyer (IRE) 11 9 7 136 David Maxwell Racing Limited Paul Nicholls 100 Monbeg Notorious (IRE) 10 9 6 135 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 101 Aforementioned (FR) 8 9 5 134 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 102 Saint Xavier (FR) 9 9 5 134 Mr D. W. Fox Richard Hobson 103 Fingerontheswitch (IRE) 11 9 3 132 Cahill, Atwell & Crofts Neil Mulholland 104 One Style (FR) 11 9 3 132 The Four Bosses Venetia Williams 105 Bellow Mome (FR) 10 9 2 131 Mrs Audrey Turley W. P. Mullins IRE Not qualified: St Barts (IRE) Randox Grand National, Betway odds: |
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16 from the Elliot barn
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Early thoughts
Presenting Percy Potters Corner The Conditional All 25/1 ( b365) |
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Already on
Bristol de Mai 45/1 Magic Of Light 25/1 The Conditional 25/1 The Storyteller 50/1 Beware The Bear 66/1 Presenting Percy 20/1  |
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ts on the grand national.
secret reprieve 25/1 any second now 33/1 prices for information only. |
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RIP The Conditional
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Burrows Saint and Anibale Fly having their prep race tomorrow.
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the fly is well past its best.
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Will Presnting Percy run
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Keep having a little top up on Lord Du Mesnil.
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Cap looking thrown in
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He stayed 4m and another 4f no problemo, I think; 8/1, the weight is tasty too.
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Impressive in the Hennessey , always the best trial imo , impressive today ......and carrying 10 - 5 .
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What do we think will be number 40 this year?
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Secret Reprieve
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Cloth Cap looks thrown in. The one for me at a bigger price is Milan Native. I'm going to have a little top up each day.
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What do we think will be horse number 40 this year?
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JP got 3 off the first 4 in the betting after Any Second Now hacks up .
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like gold cup this years national leaves me cold,just a saturday handicap
think weve been spoilt brought up on gold cups,nationals off 15/20 years ago |
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I thought Shattered Love ran a belter ...I like horses staying on over too short a distance .....now on my shortlist .....Farclas too ran a belter if he turns up.
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Will Santini pitch up here? He only jumped 12 of 22 fence yesterday; price is 92 here.
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james bowen will ride secret reprieve, assuming he gets in, with adam wedge not recovered from injury.
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I like Discorama and would have kimberlite candy and annibale fly for places.
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after watering the course during last week, set to water again tomorrow and during the week, little rain forecast this week, ground got to suit cloth cap a lot more than most of the field.
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Bristol De Mai
Yala Enki Shattered Love Kimberlite Candy Farclas |
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RIP Mully btw. Not literally mind. Betfair closed down my original account a few weeks ago and I sadly lost my "Mully" username from August 2002.
Discorama, The Storyteller and Takingrisks for me. |
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There are some major major errors in the weights for this race on Saturday , they have been brought about by the changes in going. If its good , good to soft in places on Saturday you wont need to know your alphabet just dont look beyond those beginning with "A"
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Talkischeap my main one at 66'sew bog and been backed on here bit now, on at 100ish for not much on here. Got bit on Some neck at 40 ew, Farclas at 33 and prob wasted bit on OK Coraal at 50's, got a couple quid on Hold the Note at 1000's which will go down the pan when misses the cut! Lets hope b365 do their national offer and give me my money back from now on!
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sticking with Lord Du Mesnil
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I like Talkischeap at the price. Won the Whitbread with some authority and seems to have been brought along for this, although has obviously not shown any worthwhile form since that win. Cloth Cap a worthy favourite and may well win in what doesn’t look like the strongest of renewals, but too skinny a price for me. GL all.
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Cant understand why people think Cloth Cap price is too skinny. If the horse is supposed to be 14lb well in
then the 6.2 currently available on here is brilliant value. All it has to do is finish first. Simple. |