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Callisto-moon
11 Apr 18 08:00
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no matter how much ive tried this one is hard to fault.

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By:
Bindaree
When: 11 Apr 18 13:07
May win but I can find a big fault, it's run in last years Irish National which was it's only attempt in a long distance (3m plus) handicap chase.
By:
Shakepseare's Sheriff
When: 11 Apr 18 14:11
Disagree Binderee....agree with you Callisto. 
Proven stamina in decent races, 3 x cheltenham wins shows he must have some class, trainer adept at geeting them ready on the right mark, will have a very good jockey on board, still only 8 but yet massively experienced and his best ratings have been this season so still showing signs of improving.
Whats not to like!.......well maybe in the horses history it might be looked at that he likes better ground but winning last time on soft perhaps put that to bed.
By:
shockster
When: 11 Apr 18 14:33
I've backed this lad, but have to say his jumping has to hold up.  As Bindaree says last year in the Irish National he jumped appallingly. He won the 4m NH Chase in spite of his jumping at Cheltenham last year.  He must have some engine but if he jumps poorly he has no chance. At 50's he was worth the risk, but I couldn't play at current prices.
By:
Bindaree
When: 11 Apr 18 17:22
Not saying wont win just answering the thread. The X country race is a mickey mouse contest, the horse that finished second is moderate. In the 4 miler it had the advantage of being the highest rated but ran off level weights. Also after the Cheltenham race this horse was very distressed and the TV cameras wouldn't even put it in shot for fear it was going to collapse.
By:
Bindaree
When: 11 Apr 18 17:23
I do agree about the jockey though.
By:
sewter lives again
When: 12 Apr 18 10:05
just seen him on TV, knew he was quite a small horse but didnt realise quite how small
By:
Bindaree
When: 12 Apr 18 10:59
I don't like small horses in the GN but it is probably the one horse taking into account it's weight, age, staying power and potential improvement who could blow the field away. Not betting it and don't really fancy but everything else does seem totally exposed without any scope for massive improvement.
By:
mr meagi
When: 12 Apr 18 15:44
I am a great admirer of this horse and Elliott is a genius with all things equine....but,Mick Fitzgerald is worried about his jumping...he is low and choppy and after seeing him demolish the Aintree fence in the cross-country at Cheltenham...if he get's round, I will go to confessions..and I'm not even a CatholicCool
By:
Facts
When: 13 Apr 18 03:30
Oh well ' .....if MF says ....' then you know it's got no chance !!!!LaughLaughLaugh

Lump on !
By:
unclepuncle
When: 13 Apr 18 07:17
Won't get round - place lay.
By:
impossible123
When: 13 Apr 18 07:55
Maybe not, Tiger Roll is one of my 4 selections. I've not had a GN winner for the last 7 years, but 6 2nds.
By:
lockup
When: 13 Apr 18 11:48
think if he takes to the fences massive chance you have to be adaptable and nimble footed for x-country course Seagram only small but jumped them fine.
By:
Bindaree
When: 13 Apr 18 12:21
Unfortunately the two races are poles apart. In the GN there is a relentless end to end gallop whereas in the mickey mouse race they are stopping and turning etc. Hence why a horse like Any Currency was rated in the 150s over X country but wasn't sighted in the GN off a low 130s rating.
By:
Facts
When: 13 Apr 18 18:41
They used to just ' hunt ' them round, on the first circuit, and then start racing. Do you think this has changed since the fences were altered ?
By:
Bindaree
When: 13 Apr 18 20:30
In short, definitely !!
By:
sewter lives again
When: 13 Apr 18 20:54
probably need to truly stay now certainly less emphasis on jumping
By:
mr meagi
When: 14 Apr 18 17:33
What does a Catholic Church look like!BlushBlushBlush
By:
wondersobright
When: 14 Apr 18 17:39

Apr 13, 2018 -- 6:41PM, Facts wrote:


They used to just ' hunt ' them round, on the first circuit, and then start racing. Do you think this has changed since the fences were altered ?


100% yes

By:
impossible123
When: 14 Apr 18 18:01
Well done everyone who's backed him. A well deserved winner despite the winning margin.
By:
wondersobright
When: 14 Apr 18 18:05
remember gordon told kevin blake who then passed it on during the ATR preview that tiger roll was absolutely phuckin flying and was going to run a big race (at cheltenham)
By:
charwell.
When: 14 Apr 18 21:00
Yes, I saw that interview and backed him whilst at Cheltenham simply on the authority with which he said it. Hacked up there and then had him again today as was most impressed.

A tremendous little beast :)
By:
irishone
When: 14 Apr 18 22:14
W d callisto
By:
impossible123
When: 11 Mar 19 20:07
A repeat perhaps. He was awesome lst time out winning as he liked.
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 21 Mar 19 19:02
4/1 7/2

Fences ain’t worry, getting a run rd
With out get brought down or something

Why in world would you play them prices insane !
I’d rather wait play ew game get 7/2 or bigger
With a firm that goes 1st 7 or 8 on the day

7/2 insane price
By:
sixtwosix
When: 21 Mar 19 19:46
He will be on 11 5 if Bristol De Mai comes out.
His jumping style will not get him around to victory again imo.
By:
Lion King
When: 22 Mar 19 01:32
Excellent lay to back trading opportunity. Must be a minimum of 6/1 available on the day, if not 7/1. Who in their right mind is backing at 5.1 on betfair and 7/2 high st. SP could be short mind you as those Aintree bookies don't give much away.
By:
doncaster rover
When: 22 Mar 19 13:12
I’ve got him in a £70 treble 4/1 winner Tiger Roll at 12/1 grand national and a 10/1 shot in the all weather finals ,we can dream can’t we it will be a itchy two weeks if T R does the buisness
By:
impossible123
When: 22 Mar 19 17:04
He might have just lasted home last season however, he was going easily and passed the eventual 2nd (by a neck) almost 2 fences - Anibale Fly was several lengths away in 3rd; he seemed to have progressed loads this season judging from the canter he won the X-country at Cheltenham last week. If getting a tow further into the race, and the ground less testing - it was heavy last year - he'd (again) put the race to bed at the Elbow.

Agree though 4/1 is very skinny for the Grand National, but he seemed to have improved massively this year; Rathvinden/Mall Dini (both also entered/the latter ran in for the Irish version too; Vintage Clouds the near bottom weight has credential if getting a run (highly so, I believe).
By:
Mully
When: 24 Mar 19 08:36
Very likable horse but I thought he beat a few slow boats who were past their prime at Cheltenham. Long-range forecast shows a fair few showers are due Aintree week, couple that with the fact he rapidly ran out of gas last year, I think his price is ridiculously short. Podium finisher for me but not the overall winner.
By:
impossible123
When: 24 Mar 19 10:11
Pros: Reigning champion; improved; only 2lbs worse off with runner-up; took it up too early on heavy ground; unproven and uncertainties about running plans with main protagonists.

Cons: Just lasted home; price is very skinny; new protagonists with promise (if running).

4/1 is skinny but fair, I believe, all things considered.
By:
The Dragon
When: 04 May 19 11:40
i had him a 90/1 doublw with tiger woods to win the masters happy days
By:
irishone
When: 06 Aug 19 19:28
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 06 Sep 19 12:58
Tiger Roll definetly going for the
HATRICK

Says the TRAINER

Come on Gordon

Wink
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Sep 19 21:29
Another Red Rum come next April, I think, if he stays sound and just as lethal as the season's gone.
By:
casemoney
When: 05 Oct 19 00:23
Be 11.10 to carry this year ?
By:
impossible123
When: 11 Oct 19 21:10
It's a possibility given he carried 11st 5lbs to victory this year, what is another 5lb?. With some luck Native River and Bristol De Mai run too, and they could shoulder top weight of 11st 10lbs; 'sly' is 5/1 (nrnb).
By:
woodmanchester
When: 13 Nov 19 09:02
Biggest ever payout on the Tiger Roll Cheltenham/Aintree double this year

Fraction of the odds this time around but still gone in at 13/1

13/2 for the National, also

Just think won with plenty in hand and can emulate the legendary Red Rum, winning the National an amazing 3 times
By:
impossible123
When: 15 Nov 19 20:15
I hope you've done it with Sly who are nrnb. He'd be a doubt after sustaining an injury. But, connections are hopeful he'll be back for the Boyne Hurdle some time in February.
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 27 Nov 19 13:15
Seems the operation gone well
Back on track for the GN
according to the TRAINER!!!

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