Top 4 seeds at Wimb?

Ferrer

They will seed them as rankings state, unless there a player has been out injured and their grass court performances over two years deserve an increased seeding.

What Sora said is somewhat nonsense.

It is only (partly) true for the women. The seeding committee deserves the right for itself to adjust seeds as they deem fit on the women's side. Doesn't matter if the player they want to give a (higher) seed did awesome things on grass within the last two years though. A player doesn't have to have been injured either, but that's the usual reason. Seeds on the women's side are rarely ever adjusted though.

For the men it doesn't matter whether a player was injured or not. They take a strict formula that takes grass court performance into account and apply this to EVERYONE in the top32 of the entry list (so it's strictly an adjustment of seeds. No normally unseeded player can get a seed, unlike with the women where e.g a 60 something ranked Sharapova got the 24th seed in 2009), no matter if any of the men was injured or not. That formula dictates them to take the last ranking points prior to Wimbledon. First you add 100% of the points earned within the last 12 months, and then add 75% of the points from only the BEST grass court tournament from the 12 months before that.

That's why everyone can calculate the men's seeds himself before they are announced.

What I said is correct, go check your facts.

Any reason why they have one procedure for the men and another for the women? Doesn't make any sense to me.

Jun 18, 2013 -- 9:55AM, Srichaphan or Ancic? wrote:

What I said is correct, go check your facts.

Troll. I've told you before. Before you start arguing with me about rules, do yourself a service and either read the rulebooks yourself or try to educate yourself through other means. You're just making yourself look like an utter clown by insisting on being right despite having spouted nonsense and misinformation yet again.

I don't know the reason why they do that, I just know they do.

Look in the mirror edy if you want to see a troll.

I just can't stand people spreading misinformation and lies. Sorry for that. I'm a horrible person.

Feel free to prove me wrong about the seeding at Wimbledon. Surely your version has to be stated somewhere. Wimbledon people are very organized.

Actually I decided to be nice and save you the work (as you won't find it anyway)

HOW THE SEEDINGS WORK

MEN
The seeds are the top 32 players on the ATP Entry System Position (ESP), BUT then rearranged on a surface-based system. Since 2002 a seeding committee has not been required for the Gentlemen’s Singles following an agreement made with the ATP. The seeding order is determined using an objective and transparent system to reflect more accurately an individual player’s grass court achievements: The formula is:

Take ESP points at 18 June 2012
Add 100% points earned for all grass court tournaments in the past 12 months
Add 75% points earned for the best grass court tournament in the 12 months before that.
LADIES
The seeding order follows the WTA ranking list, except where in the opinion of the committee, a change is necessary to produce a balanced draw.

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2012-06-20/201206201340183388404.html

I know that's from last year, but it has not changed for this season.

Want to apologize to me yet?

For this year it would be 17 June obviously.

Not that I expected you to grow and man up....

Youre not even worth debating with, I will ignore all the posts from you from now on. So much easier that way.

....yes, jeez. Be a fool and ignore everyone you could actually learn from (I know **** about betting, but I do know players and rules). I know you already chose to do that with a number of other people who, had you taken their advice, would've made you a far smarter, probably more successful bettor. I don't want to call you a fool, but you are one heck of a stubborn fool that's caught in his own arrogance, unable to accept being wrong it seems.

Really...don't tell me to grow up if you first and foremost have plenty of maturing up to do.

I'm confused. I thought SorA had blocked edy.

nothing you write could make S or A look anymore silly edy; it's impossible to beat his own efforts.

and it may not be unwise to remember what mark twain said about arguing with idiots.

He can't resist my charm so he always unblocks me. Or it automatically unblocks me if his blocking list reaches it's limit, replacing me with the new person on the list.

I know DStyle, I know

Thanks for calling me an idiot btw

I'll accept that from you and mouse trap though. You're two of many people on this board alone **** smarter and wiser than I am. Still learning, still grouding myself, still trying to improve at least a tiny little bit every day.

*who are

jeez

ah, but i didn't.

the quote is that people might mistake you for one.

I dont need to unblock him to know he is venting his spleen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr2YGyF7rCY

I actually asked him for a hug on national best friend day a while ago

Just a very small correction of my first post before robbot comes back.

First you add 100% of the points earned within the last 12 months

should obviously read

First you add 100% of the points earned on grass within the last 12 months

....Sorry if that caused any confusion, but I'm sure most of the people reading this were able to tell that I simply forgot those two words there. Especially as the next sentence mentions grass points and because just doubling all of everyone' normal ranking points would make zero sense anyway.

Sorry again

Thanks edy!

great stuff edy

put the vile racist in his place

great stuff edy

put the vile racist in his place

Oh look, another of those long-term grudge-riddled bully boys, canaryboy, has popped his head out to add his two cents worth in.

btw, before you accuse anyone of racism, be sure that you check out someone called erm, oh yes, edy, who tried to drive a Serbian Betfair customer off the forum based on his country's political/war history.

and who was that SorA

I didn't try to drive any serbian customers off the forum. Are you honestly that desperate and hateful to bend the truth to such extremes? Poor stuff, mate.

I know who he is talking about, aaronh. Guy's name was pipita. Insulted everyone from former yugoslavia, especially croats like Marin in the worst possible way (for no other reason than being a croat). I joined a conversation where Marin talked back, mentioned that serbians have ALSO (just like the others, not exclusively) committed war crimes in the early 90s and pipita completely flipped. He was around a few more days, then disappeared and Sora of course thinks it's because of us being bad evil bullies instead of him simply running out of money.

I'd show you the thread but I think it has been deleted because of the heavy insults and words that were thrown around almost exclusively by said pipita.

So you can call it foolish, certainly, for going into such a touchy subject, but judging that as an attempt to drive someone off the forum? Your decision

I believe you edy

iran qualified for the world cup today so a chance of seeing some of them shirtless in brazil next summer

Come on guys! I didnt create this thread to read about your problems. Its about the top seeds.

it's not your fault buddy

sricho can turn the most innocuous threads all about him

Sorry robbot. Didn't mean to. Your question was still answered though

anyone know what time tomorrow the seedings are announced?

On a serious note, do Wimbledon not reserve any right to switch people around...!?

As it seems, they will put Ferrer who got turned over by Malisse today as number 4 and Nadal a two time former champion as 5.

I hope they see the sense in this small change.

The seeding order is determined using an objective and transparent system to reflect more accurately an individual player’s grass court achievements

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/
2012-06-20/201206201340183388404.html

Pride themselves on using an objective formula (for men), have used it for over a decade, can't just throw it out of the window a week prior to Wimbledon because they like Rafa so much.

Jun 18, 2013 -- 7:14PM, robbot wrote:

Come on guys! I didnt create this thread to read about your problems. Its about the top seeds.

He's completely right. Sora and I both behaved like moronic dickheads. No way around it. Can only be sorry.

rafa confirmed as 5th seed

Its ok edy, You seems to be a nice guy after all