The ferry company with no ferries

Yeah this lot have no deal all sorted- no question about that, no question at all, their record shows the organised and forward problem solving skills awash in the Tory party.

as jess Philips said in her commons speech  theres lots of mp,s filthy rich without one discernable skill between them

No skill is one thing but Grayling has anti-skills- he is a destroyer of skills- he takes things that may not be perfect or maybe even in need of help and........makes a world of sh!t out of them. He could make Messi look like Xhaka !

hs2 52 billion now tipped to be 100 billion plus,but grayling says it will be delivered on time ,in budget,

hes unlucky to be in office in such an era of transport being in the news.



heaven forbid hes put in charge of solving the hi tech solution to the backstop

Its not rocket science, that’s for sure

Contract terminated because an Irish firm who were behind it have pulled out. I am sure that the free market will soon provide any services for which there is a demand. Government interference always makes things worse.

Intervention from the Irish government, by the sounds.  No surprise there.

Is this the firm?  http://www.asl.ie/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47182361

The Daily Telegraph said Arklow Shipping, a major Irish shipping firm, withdrew its support from Seaborne "without warning".

… but on Saturday, the Department of Transport said that it had become clear that Seaborne "would not reach its contractual requirements", after Arklow Shipping backed out of the deal.

It the government) added that its confidence in the viability of the deal with Seaborne was based on Arklow Shipping's backing of the company and the assurances it received from them.

Thanet council haven't a bob, they can't run Ramsgate.

will seabourne have to pay compensation for breech of contract ?

or will government not have recourse over this shambles?

It's not being suggested surely, that Grayling with his firm that has no ships and no port is blameless and it's the naughty EU (whatever individual country you choose)that is the problem here ?

It is indeed,the finger is pointed at Ireland(Irish firm),that seems to be enough for some.

Would they as an individual invest in this? Maybe some might.

Incompetent Grayling still in office; his fiasco performance on the Railways did not finish his cabinet career hope this will. He's wholly incompetent!

shirley seabourne was given contract because they were british?

much was made at time of three firms being awarded contracts, two
were eu based, one british.....

Chris Grayling will either be made a Lord, or will be re-elected with a large majority in Epsom.
Thats how the system works.
A corpse with a Blue Rosette would win Epsom, Daily Mail readers scared that a "Marxist" government would get in.

rees mogg blaming irish government for possible interverence, have brexiteers ever blamed anyone else for bad news before

Fear not, you can rebuild the economy with all fish you will have...

Can't wait for the empathetic Trump to be all 'Deal ? Sure no problem come on and sit on my knee Theresa' he won't take advantage of us---yeah it will be one of the easiest deals eve.....oh wait a minute!

The clown responsible for this was trying to claim it's the EU's fault if we don't get a deal earlier this week .

as jess Philips said - lol.

Labour are definitely scraping the bottom of the barrel in their choice of spokespeople they've got in prominent positions.

Chris Grayling?

Give the bloke a break - he's doing his best.

Feb 10, 2019 -- 1:28PM, Dr Crippen wrote:

Chris Grayling?Give the bloke a break - he's doing his best.

Seriously or just trolling? He’s a minister of state and isn’t competent to open a red box, let alone process what’s inside one.

Bit more starting to emerge now,

Arklow shipping did have discussions to provide ships

It is puzzled and annoyed for being blamed for the cancellation of the contract.

A source also said it was never a "backer",had any formal agreement,nor was it a "contract partner".

It stepped away from further talks with Seabourne for "commercial reasons".

Rees-Mogg should be held accountable for his comments and explain further,dangerous talk and falls far below what is expected as a senior politician.

brexiteer held accountable for their comments

,very serious accusation all the same.

no doubt he wil explain on thursday night on qt, without anyone having chance to correct him.

are they still dredging ramsgate?

They’re certainly dredging the bottom of the barrel.

The port of Bristol is getting ready for a boom after a no deal. Ideally placed for imports from Spain, Portugal, South America and USA.

Seriously or just trolling?

Just a bit of sarcasm.

It always amazes me how ministers flit from one high position to another.

Like Ken Clarke when he was given the job of Chancellor and openly boasted that he knew nothing about economics.   
Yet history has recorded him as a pretty good Chancellor.

If someone at working class level applies for a job even semi-skilled, unless they have experience in that type of work they're seldom successful.

Yet MPs stagger from one blunder to another in various positions until they're quietly shuffled out of the way in some minor role where they can't do too much damage, and eventually forgotten.

I quite agree doc.

A staggering set-up and one I have never understood. To understand, say, the Foreign Office would be the work of a lifetime, not just something you take on because there happens to be a vacancy. We'd be far better off if appointments were made on expertise, not who the PM wants around him/her.

no there are some professions where you know more than the ‘experts’
politics is one of them

how do you get experience as a prime minister?

how do you get experience as a minister if your party has been out of power for years
such as lib dems in last con libdem govt ?

i guess thats why the civil service exists and offers continuity

people have it back to front , the country produces the politicians , the politicians do not produce the country they merely reflect it

There’s no way round that , in a democracy

That’s why it’s so dangerous to change the people of a country , they might not be like you

look at it this way , there are many people in parliament today who are not , who are not English , who are not Irish   , who are not Scottish who are not Welsh   , who are not British
That’s a problem right there

aliens?

We can see that very clearly as the Scottish SNP for example are trying to overturn the referendum result and stop the U.K. leaving the EU
They’re too stupid to realise if they didn’t want to accept the referendum result they shouldn’t have taken part in it

The Labour Party likewise , only the Tory party at the moment is trying to leave the EU
Without them and Mrs May we would be lost

seems only a small part of the con party are trying to leave the eu, most
seem to be awaiting somebody telling them what to do.

ah , 202 MPs voted for mays deal , 3 of which were labour
That’s all you need to know

hmmm, some folk reckon mays deal does not constitute leaving the eu

hey ho,

Yes that’s true, if you can point out any labour MPs who think that well that’s fine
anythings possible , I read it somewhere

£800k spent on this virtual ferry business!
despicable government.

Feb 13, 2019 -- 10:31AM, lfc1971 wrote:

We can see that very clearly as the Scottish SNP for example are trying to overturn the referendum result and stop the U.K. leaving the EUThey’re too stupid to realise if they didn’t want to accept the referendum result they shouldn’t have taken part in it

the vote was a westminster referendum
the scots voted  to stay in the eu!

Did you vote in the referendum bullrider ?

Too difficult a question ?

sure did
i voted to leave
mainly to get rid of Cameron
at least I achieved that!

now you know you may have voted leave , I don’t know
But you see you say it was mainly to get rid of Cameron
And now you are telling lies, we won’t get very far if you can’t be truthful

I do NOT lie

You just did  , right there
I tell lies elsewhere , not here in front of myself

I think you have a mental health problem...talking to yourself.

No one in Britain voted leave to get rid of Cameron , no one
Not you or anyone else

So as I say bullraider , stop telling lies

Feb 13, 2019 -- 1:59PM, lfc1971 wrote:

No one in Britain voted leave to get rid of Cameron , no one Not you or anyone else

how do you know this?
where is your evidence?

Well it’s very simple , no one knew that Cameron would resign , not you or me or anyone else
Cameron himself possibly didn’t know
So stop talking nonsense

Now the only thing we do is that you might have voted leave , or you might not
I can’t trust what you say obviously
It doesn’t matter , respect the referendum vote.  Thanks

Yes that’s true, if you can point out any labour MPs who think that well that’s fine
anythings possible , I read it somewhere

there are plenty forsure, but they had other reasons on top of that to decide how to
cart their vote.

whatever happened to your politeness lfc, its slipping in your replies to bullraider

thats not good

lfc joins the 1000,s of others deciding why people did or didn't vote leave, I couldnt give a flying fook about
sovereignty , who makes the rules, trade deals,but still voted leave

I agree donny , it wasn’t good
I apologise to bullraider , I’m a bit techy today

not an excuse of course for that , sorry anyway to bullrider

for all those like me who voted Brexit for uk jobs for uk workers,migration watch reckons under the new tory immigration bill they estimate migration rising to 700,000,555,000 from outside the EU, END OF FREE MOVEMENT my arris

well done lfc

Feb 13, 2019 -- 3:08PM, 1st time poster wrote:

for all those like me who voted Brexit for uk jobs for uk workers,migration watch reckons under the new tory immigration bill they estimate migration rising to 700,000,555,000 from outside the EU, END OF FREE MOVEMENT my arris

Not a terribly reliable source but certainly you were conned if you expected massive reductions in immigration by voting to leave. Despite pretending to want to reduce nett immigration to tens of thousands per year, the Tories made no real attempts to reduce non EU immigration, over which they’ve had full control, or EU immigration, over which they’ve had several control mechanisms they’ve never even tried to use.

Personally think the British jobs for British workers thing is a total con in many other respects too but that’s a different debate.