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Report ufcdan April 22, 2017 8:03 PM BST
Laugh aka
Report ufcdan April 22, 2017 8:05 PM BST
She's another one who doesn't understand democracy unless it's going her way of course Mischief
Report ufcdan April 22, 2017 8:05 PM BST
She's another one who doesn't understand democracy unless it's going her way of course Mischief
Report Captain Wurzel April 22, 2017 10:25 PM BST
Do you think she would interested in a bunk up with you dan ? I've been down the Bridge - not many lookers there.
Report ufcdan April 22, 2017 10:59 PM BST
If fat and balding is her type then I'd be her man but I wouldn't touch her with yours Wurzel Wink
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT April 22, 2017 11:32 PM BST
Extremely wealthy London Householder used to getting her own way is how Patrick O'Flynn described her.
Report tanglefoot April 25, 2017 10:16 PM BST
EU giving her pocket money via British taxpayers,nice and undercover
Report tanglefoot April 25, 2017 10:31 PM BST
Why u think Clegg,Blair,Heseltine,Kinnock and Mandeison all off to Brussels to be wine and dined,nice
Report impossible123 April 26, 2017 6:02 PM BST
What is she trying to prove? The majority of the country voted to leave the EU. It is done and dusted,...just get over it and stop being egotistic.
Report enpassant April 26, 2017 6:24 PM BST
She is exercising her democratic rights, which, of course is what the brexit supporters purport to hold in such high regard.
Report tanglefoot April 26, 2017 7:17 PM BST
She is not very democratic,as she doesn't except the will of the people,dictators like Junker behind her.
Report InsiderTrader April 26, 2017 8:25 PM BST
She is just an attention seeker.
Report moisok April 26, 2017 8:57 PM BST
she said it was nothing to do with politics when she went through with that legal action

it was just a matter of law

who tells porkies?
Report enpassant April 26, 2017 9:53 PM BST
What you all think she is or isn't, is immaterial. So many call for democracy then complain when it is in action.
Report Room 0182 April 26, 2017 10:24 PM BST
^^^

Spoken like a true remoaner LaughLaughLaugh
Report enpassant April 26, 2017 11:02 PM BST
^^^ pathetic.
Report lfc1971 April 27, 2017 9:56 AM BST
it is clear now to any reasonable person that remain voters cannot be trusted.
Report ufcdan April 27, 2017 9:59 AM BST
Would the bookies pay you on a horse that came second when you'd backed it to win................same principle we fu cking won !
Report impossible123 April 27, 2017 10:33 AM BST
The EU Referendum result is known; the MPs have accepted it; the EU have accepted it; even those who were sceptic and/or undecided but voted have accepted the result; why can she not do the same and follow the paths of the MPs and the EU bureaucrats and dealing with the outcome? Does she know more than all these people? If so, please share...otherwise give it a rest, and move on!
Report posy April 27, 2017 11:30 AM BST
This woman is dangerous and a menace to our democratic society...she should be deported forthwith.
Report enpassant April 27, 2017 1:10 PM BST
Hahaha you lot are really working yourselves into a lather !
Bring back hanging !!!!
Report lfc1971 April 27, 2017 1:21 PM BST
They're clinging on by their fingertips , many of them are not English
Report enpassant April 27, 2017 1:22 PM BST
Birch them !!!!!!
Report lfc1971 April 27, 2017 1:26 PM BST
It is not for the brexiteers to run around making an exhibition of themselves, we like moderation
and repose and are not by nature agitators and troublemakers .
Report lfc1971 April 27, 2017 1:28 PM BST
that's the English way , many remainders won't understand anything of that.
Report moisok April 27, 2017 1:41 PM BST
she said thousands have contributed to her cause

should that not read Branson has contributed thousands to her cause

whoops sorry to bring that up
Report enpassant April 27, 2017 2:17 PM BST
Yeah, you're all class acts ! lol
Report enpassant April 27, 2017 2:18 PM BST
Remember the good old days of evisceration. Eviscerate the lot of 'em !
Report lfc1971 April 27, 2017 2:33 PM BST
^^ brexiteers be kind and tolerant , the remainers are helpless and impotent and it is driving some to madness.
Is it possible to be so wretched? not very easily.
Report enpassant April 27, 2017 2:48 PM BST
Yeah them there remoaners make crass generalisations are tings don't they! You tell 'em '71 .
Report moisok April 27, 2017 2:51 PM BST
I love people outside this country telling us the error of our ways.

shame on all these knuckle draggers

you need to listen to these people - convert or ............
Report ufcdan April 27, 2017 4:25 PM BST
Gina Miller........and there I was thinking it was my missus who had to have the last word Crazy
Report enpassant April 27, 2017 4:43 PM BST
^^^ quality stuff there .
Report akabula April 27, 2017 10:07 PM BST
enpassant
^^^pathetic.


Don't be so harsh on yourself, There are worse than you on here. Not many though.
Report tanglefoot April 27, 2017 10:21 PM BST
I am sure I will still see the day ,that they take her away,frothing at the mouth in a straight jacket,and they will do a crowd funding for her care and she will keep repeating Brexit,Brexit
Report enpassant April 28, 2017 2:05 AM BST

Apr 27, 2017 -- 10:07PM, akabula wrote:


enpassant ^^^pathetic.Don't be so harsh on yourself, There are worse than you on here. Not many though.


Wow ! Quality stuff there. From the " stop talking about yourself" goldmine ? Gold star for you young man !

Report impossible123 April 28, 2017 9:33 AM BST
I'd not have set up this thread if she'd not been given air time.

Crowd funding,...what percentage? The amount she hinted at equated to less than 0.2% at 1p each from those who'd voted to remain. Mr Blair did not crowd fund her either otherwise she'd have bragged about it and/or Mr Blair was too embarrassed to make it public for good  reasons; the remainder (99.8%) could not be bothered and/or too ashamed to be associated with her any more as she'd proven nothing but just an attention seeker.
Report CJ70 April 28, 2017 12:36 PM BST
I think someone in this thread maybe fangirling over Gina Miller.

Which is unfortunate as her willingness to do TV is being curtailed, without a friendly interviewer or if her positions are put under pressure she melts.
Report unitedbiscuits April 28, 2017 1:26 PM BST
I think it is great that everyone with Virgin mobile or broadband is contributing to Gina Miller's election initiative, the Best For Britain group.
Keep up the support.
Report CJ70 April 28, 2017 1:29 PM BST

Apr 28, 2017 -- 1:26PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


I think it is great that everyone with Virgin mobile or broadband is contributing to Gina Miller's election initiative, the Best For Britain group. Keep up the support.


What election initiative?

Report unitedbiscuits April 28, 2017 1:39 PM BST
Don't worry, CJ, Gina is not standing herself. The initiative is to identify and influence a hundred seats in the coming GE towards electing MPs prepared to block Brexit if absolutely necessary. Richard Brandon has kindly donated offices and the services of Virgin chairman Peter Norris.
Report CJ70 April 28, 2017 1:48 PM BST

Apr 28, 2017 -- 1:39PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


Don't worry, CJ, Gina is not standing herself. The initiative is to identify and influence a hundred seats in the coming GE towards electing MPs prepared to block Brexit if absolutely necessary. Richard Brandon has kindly donated offices and the services of Virgin chairman Peter Norris.


Of course she isn't standing herself, although her intention was to stand in Maidenhead. Someone with more electoral nous obviously talked her down informing her she'd lose badly. When exposed to people who didn't agree with her she couldn't handle the pressure, so standing would bring extra scrutiny which she can't deal with. Her TV work during the last few weeks evidenced this.

Isn't the rest of this plan falling apart as well? As it looks like only the Greens and Lib Dems are interested?

Report unitedbiscuits April 28, 2017 1:57 PM BST
Maidenhead is Theresa May's seat, she scored five times as many votes as any other candidate last time. "Electoral nous," - what a Poindexter.
Report CJ70 April 28, 2017 2:01 PM BST

Apr 28, 2017 -- 1:57PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


Maidenhead is Theresa May's seat, she scored five times as many votes as any other candidate last time. "Electoral nous," - what a Poindexter.


Well done, isn't Google great? Now if you make that same effort with key words 'Gina Miller' and 'Maidenhead'.

Report unitedbiscuits April 28, 2017 2:23 PM BST
CJ - Gina Miller is a lawyer. She is far more intelligent than you are. She did not decide to swerve Maidenhead because some Welsh svengali who claimed he could easily manipulate the Brexit market advised her that she would "lose badly."
Report 1st time poster April 28, 2017 2:33 PM BST
so ginner miller and co are target 100 remain seats,whilst ukip are standing aside in seats where in their opinion a true brexiteer of any party has a better chance of winning,

does this mean mother theresa,s election to unite the country has failed before its got off the starting blocks
Report unitedbiscuits April 28, 2017 2:34 PM BST
Im afraid so, 1st time poster.
Report 1st time poster April 28, 2017 2:39 PM BST
united you seem to be the sort of person impressed by titles and letters after peoples names,ive no doubt boris johnson is far more intelligent on paper than gina miller doesnt stop him making an absolute tool of himself everytime he opens his mouth,ginner might be more intelligent than andrew neil on paper didnt stop her getting diced and sliced live on air the other night,give me someones opinion from the univirsity of life anyday over some silver spooned snowflake
Report impossible123 April 28, 2017 2:55 PM BST
She may be a qualified lawyer and so is Sadiq Khan; google and read what the former's colleagues/associates write about him, and Boris can eat him for breakfast in politics and charisma.
Report CJ70 April 28, 2017 3:02 PM BST

Apr 28, 2017 -- 2:23PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


CJ - Gina Miller is a lawyer. She is far more intelligent than you are. She did not decide to swerve Maidenhead because some Welsh svengali who claimed he could easily manipulate the Brexit market advised her that she would "lose badly."


Lol. Is that your argument. Someone is a lawyer, so they must be intelligent? I've never met her so I don't know. What I do know is that she isn't very quick on her fight when defending her opinions. Perhaps she's just uncomfortable in a TV studio many are. However, once you mix with people you'll realise that job title is not a measure of intelligence.

I love how you keep bringing up manipulating markets as if it's something you have against me, all it does is show up your ignorance of betting markets.

As others have said, you seem impressed by titles. It's no wonder you got taken in crowdfunding as per your thread in Chit Chat. If details were being harvested due to statements posted on here there would be hundreds of Nigerian Princes after your details.

Report CJ70 April 28, 2017 3:03 PM BST
*quick on her feet.
Report moisok April 28, 2017 3:05 PM BST
mainly financed by branson another great ex patriot who lives abroad
do you notice how many from outside are interfering like branson and millar, to name two, and they shriek about putin

but never these two, or even obomber when he interfered
Report unitedbiscuits April 28, 2017 4:36 PM BST
Sorry moisok, you lost me, how is Gina Miller "from outside?"
Report impossible123 April 28, 2017 4:46 PM BST
Acclaim the Nation just won the 16:30 at Doncaster - how appropriate was that? Brexiteers, keep the faith for UK plc!
Report posy April 28, 2017 5:30 PM BST
Beats me why the hell we let this uppity women into the country;she's seduced our men (she's on third husband),caused trouble in the City (known as black widow spider) and now attempting  to overturn the will of the people. She should be locked up and then deported to whence she came...Guyana.
Report impossible123 April 28, 2017 6:32 PM BST
Stick to politics and be civil, no personal bitching plz.
Report moisok April 28, 2017 8:03 PM BST
The contents of this broadcast contains no nuts and no links.

At least we know ms millar never came from ghana or married into money.
Report akabula April 28, 2017 9:10 PM BST
Andrew Neil showing her up for what she is.
An attention seeking ageing woman trying hard to make herself relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgIib_Uj1T4
Report unitedbiscuits April 28, 2017 9:56 PM BST
"Brillo pad" Andrew Neil needs to be curbed. His biased Brexit agenda has no place at the BBC.
Report tanglefoot April 28, 2017 10:15 PM BST
Blue Riband biscuits moving to Poland,is that u biscuit,getting hot in the kitchen Grin
Report impossible123 April 28, 2017 11:04 PM BST
Timeout is more chocolatey, creamier and smooth.
Report CJ70 April 29, 2017 4:42 PM BST

Apr 28, 2017 -- 9:56PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


"Brillo pad" Andrew Neil needs to be curbed. His biased Brexit agenda has no place at the BBC.


Bless. He's a TV presenter, clearly that means TV presenters are more intelligent than lawyers? No?

Report unitedbiscuits April 30, 2017 9:26 AM BST
It is a great picture, trilby. If Angela Merkel has a fault it is in taking people at face; the important thing is that negotiations proceed on the basis that Theresa May is lying when she says she wants a strong, stable EU. Happily, all 27 countries seem to be wise to her record.
Report unitedbiscuits April 30, 2017 9:28 AM BST
Doh, wrong thread.
You still in the habit of blessing people, CJ?
Report CJ70 April 30, 2017 11:09 AM BST

Apr 30, 2017 -- 9:26AM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


It is a great picture, trilby. If Angela Merkel has a fault it is in taking people at face; the important thing is that negotiations proceed on the basis that Theresa May is lying when she says she wants a strong, stable EU. Happily, all 27 countries seem to be wise to her record.


Why would she be lying? It's in the interest of all to have a strong EU however badly it is run. If countries want to stay in a failing customs union then there's nothing more in our interests than making that work for them.

Report CJ70 April 30, 2017 11:10 AM BST

Apr 30, 2017 -- 9:28AM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


Doh, wrong thread. You still in the habit of blessing people, CJ?


Only when commenting on naivety.

Report impossible123 April 30, 2017 5:02 PM BST
Andrew Neil is not just a TV presenter, he is also a renowned political reporter and inquisitor for several decades; prior he was also a Sunday Times editor. On the other hand Gina Miller is a lawyer - that is it; no wonder she was shown up by Mr Neil in his fiefdom and area of expertise.
Report moisok April 30, 2017 7:16 PM BST
It was rather interesting to see that report on her 'law degree'
Report enpassant April 30, 2017 7:51 PM BST
I didn't se the interview. In what way was she 'shown up' by AN ?
Report impossible123 April 30, 2017 8:21 PM BST
Just google Gina Miller and Andrew Neil for the video and transcript of the interview.
Report moisok April 30, 2017 9:00 PM BST
if you haven't put a link you are a liar  ho ho!!
Report enpassant April 30, 2017 9:33 PM BST

Apr 30, 2017 -- 8:21PM, impossible123 wrote:


Just google Gina Miller and Andrew Neil for the video and transcript of the interview.


You gave an opinion - what way was she shown up iyo ?

Report akabula April 30, 2017 9:40 PM BST
You say you didn't watch the clip enpas so why not watch it and see for yourself.
Report enpassant April 30, 2017 9:55 PM BST
I am interested in his already stated opinion. Is that an issue for you ?
Report akabula April 30, 2017 9:57 PM BST
It was me who said she was shown up for what she is.

Andrew Neil showing her up for what she is.
An attention seeking ageing woman trying hard to make herself relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgIib_Uj1T4
Report enpassant April 30, 2017 10:07 PM BST

Apr 30, 2017 -- 5:02PM, impossible123 wrote:


Andrew Neil is not just a TV presenter, he is also a renowned political reporter and inquisitor for several decades; prior he was also a Sunday Times editor. On the other hand Gina Miller is a lawyer - that is it; no wonder she was shown up by Mr Neil in his fiefdom and area of expertise.


This pre dates your post I believe

Report enpassant April 30, 2017 10:08 PM BST
But I wouldn't be so interested in your opinion since it is clearly implied in your post. I was looking for perhaps a more rounded view.
Report enpassant April 30, 2017 10:15 PM BST
*post dates. I didn't look that far back but it is a moot point anyway.
Report akabula April 30, 2017 10:15 PM BST
My post was on the 28th and i123s on the 30th.
Report enpassant April 30, 2017 10:20 PM BST
^^^yes
Report enpassant April 30, 2017 10:21 PM BST
I am interested in his view because he seems to be even handed from the little I know of him.
Report enpassant April 30, 2017 10:24 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgIib_Uj1T4 link seems to be andrew marr
Report akabula April 30, 2017 10:30 PM BST
Don't know what happened but here's the correct link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iucDqo1qOmk
Report enpassant April 30, 2017 10:44 PM BST
Thank you. I have watched it and disagree with both you and 123 to some degree.
Report impossible123 May 1, 2017 12:07 PM BST
Disagreement is welcome and productive in any debate. Nevertheless, it is blatantly clear Mrs Gina Miller has an agenda and she's being economical with the truth; she is just being pig-headed, attention seeking and and out of her depth. Maybe she is "speaking" on behalf of another entity, if so, please say so. Otherwise, the majority of the electorate of the EU referendum are sick and tired of her self-interest "crusade".

The electorate have spoken, so please allow the appointed and elected politicians to get on with it (hopefully) with a more resounding voice and manner post the General election on 8th June.
Report moisok May 1, 2017 12:17 PM BST
I am not keen on being pleasant about the issues - some of the opponents of brexit are plain nasty and some are complete liars.
She is on record as saying it had nothing to do with politics and it was a legal issue ONLY when she first opposed.
Now she has formed a LIMITED company backed by branson we can see it for what it is.
Will it return a profit - will it pay for her expenses.  ???
Report enpassant May 1, 2017 12:50 PM BST
123. Agree she has an agenda and is likely to be disingenuous on that score. But to labour that particular point goes nowhere. I thought the preoccupation with that in the interview was unnecessary, verging on irrelevant.
Pigheaded : perhaps depending on your point of view.
Attention seeking : I think that is a leap and lacks evidence.
Out of her depth. She certainly didn't look like the politicians that have dodging difficult questioning down to a fine art and so looked less at ease with a professional interviewer of many years standing grilling her. She did however answer him which is more than many MP's do and I give credit for that.
Self interested crusade: whatever agenda may be behind this does not change the fact that the government of the day were exposed as trying to bypass the legally correct and right way to go about the business of leaving the EU.

At times the criticism (on here) has been of a misogynistic nature and for me the debate is lost immediately by those that go down that road.

If  ideology becomes more important than legality  we will all be in a world of trouble.  I try hard to look at the content of what is being suggested and not at who (or why) it is being suggested.
Report posy May 1, 2017 12:53 PM BST
If this country wasn't run by namby pambys she'd be thrown into gaol for incitement to thwart the will of the people...she's top of my list of people who should be deported. How someone like her gets away for ages with pretending she's got a law degree is beyond my comprehension.
Report impossible123 May 1, 2017 1:43 PM BST
If one has only one agenda eg a legal issue in the case of Mr Gina Miller on Brexit, then she must know she needs to come up with a reasonable and logical explanation when challenged otherwise others not conducive her stance can easily pick holes in her argument and they have (convincingly). As a result but she has earned the label of having a self-interest and attention seeking.

The court agreed with her (initially) and subject the government to a parliamentary vote which was taken, and she was defeated. I'd have thought, post this, the matter was done and dusted but instead she's adopted another stance she deemed not political ie a tactical voting - how can she explain that?

She may be a lawyer nevertheless, to a lay person it is clearly without a shadow of a doubt it has become political and not just a legal issue anymore; Mrs Miller is 1000% guilty on this!

I may be accused of other stuff but misogynistic I certainly am not. I'm very open to differing views with logic and humility.
Report enpassant May 1, 2017 2:06 PM BST
I cannot see how her motives impact on the issue in any way. So again I cannot agree with your reasoning.
The court agreed with the case that was presented not with 'her'. And since a vote alone was the issue to hand how 'she lost' is your conclusion is puzzling.
As for tactical voting : this is part of our electoral system (a very poor system buts ours nonetheless). The electorate can support, advocate against or ignore this if they wish. Why she needs to explain that is neither here nor there for me.
Guilty ? Well if that is your judgement so be it but it falls firmly into the irrelevant category in mine.
I have certainly not accused you of misogyny but one doesn't have to look hard to read it, not least on this thread.
Report InsiderTrader May 1, 2017 2:06 PM BST
She doesnt want Brexit and she has the money and backing to try and do something about it.

I dont think she could be deported as is a British Citizen now.

If it makes her feel good about herself let her get on with it.

She is obviously used to getting her own way but on this one I think she will be disappointed.
Report enpassant May 1, 2017 2:15 PM BST
IT - I often find myself in agreement with parts of your posts. Your first point I agree with.
Report moisok May 1, 2017 2:24 PM BST
married to money
rich outsider gobbing off and telling the great unwashed how to vote
sickening stuff

if you can't see that you see nothing

but then whats new about most politcoes 

self serving monsters with little or nothing in common with most voters

same as the small number of politicoes in europe trying to stir it and just don't represent anyone but their own pockets

hope this helps
Report moisok May 1, 2017 2:25 PM BST
financed by branson  ha ha
Report moisok May 1, 2017 2:27 PM BST
like the 'radical' ex rothschild banker and 5 year french finance guy MACRON 

threatening the nasty uk brexiteers

they are really running scared of losing the 8.5 billion and the massive trade imbalance haha
Report treetop May 1, 2017 3:37 PM BST
Macron recently saying the EU has to reform as part of his election comments. Sounds suspiciously like Cameron and more likely that he is trying to steal support from Le Pen with absolutely no intention of believing what he is saying. The french Tony Blair in the making ?
Report Mexico May 1, 2017 3:43 PM BST
Just about no chance of serious EU reform.

If the EU cared about reform they would have offered Cameron something. The EU stabbed their so called friend Cameron in the back, then cried when UK told the EU where to go.

They just had to offer something - they got 48% of the vote by doing nothing.
Report treetop May 1, 2017 3:48 PM BST
I agree Mex but the french voters will probably accept that he means it but will find out the hard way that he has no intentions of pushing the matter of reform.
Report Mexico May 1, 2017 3:56 PM BST
High up on list of reforms should be cutting CAP spending and end the expensive circus trip to Strassburg.

The French are happy enough to allow this waste of money to continue.


The only "reform" EU are interested is in taking more power from member states.
Report InsiderTrader May 1, 2017 4:05 PM BST
treetop
01 May 17 15:37
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Macron recently saying the EU has to reform as part of his election comments. Sounds suspiciously like Cameron and more likely that he is trying to steal support from Le Pen with absolutely no intention of believing what he is saying. The french Tony Blair in the making ?

...

This man is is banker and pro-globalist. He is an establishment figure backed by all the pro-EU politicians.

Looks like the French are going to fall for it.
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