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BetTraderMaster
19 Apr 12 22:07
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playing $5  30 players table. Final table 4 left (blinds i think 2000-4000  Finn-Lukas goes all in RoySla on the big blind only 500 to call folds...similar story after 2 hands.  I did win the tourney though :)

Where is the best place to report collusion BF or ongame?
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Report chipfire227 April 20, 2012 7:27 PM BST
Email BF with game I.D., the reason you suspect collusion and ask that they pass to Fraud for investigation.

You may wish to save yourself the bother though, as you wont get a refund with you winning the  game, and looking at Sharkscope the two players involved have no history of playing the same games together.

Its a 3 quid game and looking at RoySla's stats I think he probably just hasnt really got a clue what he's doing. I think it's also worth bearing mind he was playing 4 tables at the time, which he probably couldnt cope with.
Report PokerMogul April 26, 2012 11:10 AM BST
doesnt look like collusion to me. They would both need to run good to make the final table. And a $5 game is hardly worth the effort. I'd rather wait for a decent hand before snapping off a shorty anyway, if you double him up when the blinds are that high, you will fidn that skill has very little to do with who wins the game.
Report harter April 27, 2012 1:17 AM BST
Collusion is usually more obvious. I remember being in a tournament with 3 left. I think the other 2 were from Germany because they were chatting to each other in a language that sounded like it may be German. Anyways the leader had 50% of the chips (say 20,000 chips for arguments sake), I had about 38% (15,000 chips) and the guy in last had 12% (5,000 chips). First hand I was on the button with junk and folded. German conversation then the leader in small blind bet 4,800 chips. Guy in big blind goes all in and leader folds instead of calling other $200. Of course that puts the leader down to just over my stack and raises guy in last to just under 10,000.

Next hand guy on button (in last) bets about 1/3 his stack. Small blind goes all in. I have garbage and fold as big blind and last place guy folds. Anyways this goes on the whole game with the 2 having a very long conversation in a foreign language.

It was so obvious what they were doing - they were playing the hand together, probably telling each other what they had with the sole intention of getting me to fold, or if I had a great hand they would ensure they both stayed alive. I emailed the tournament info to the poker email address who said they would look into it (note it wasn't Ongame or Betfair). The reply I got and I'm not lying was "we have examined the tournament in question and while the play seemed unorthodox we have no proof it was collusion." I asked if they could at least tell me what the 2 were saying to each other and the reply I got was "sorry we don't monitor chat." Needless to say it was the last tournament I played there.
Report phaedrus April 27, 2012 8:09 AM BST
I've had people colluding in chat in Danish in a cash game. Typed the chat into google translate so I knew what was going on, emailed support and never saw them again.
Report The Klup April 27, 2012 10:21 AM BST
mine was blatent too - in a tournament - three left

other two players aliases were NOT these names but in terms of how the aliases were written (if you know what i mean):

greekcheat234
greekcheat237


100 with 3 of us left and they never clashed. I know for a fact it was the same registered player on both accounts, but i believe it might be a poker / internet / gambling shop in cyprus

i got it in good with something like qq on a J high flop vs KJ or something and he rivered his K.
Report Ovalman. April 27, 2012 5:24 PM BST
I've reported 4 sets in 5,000 STT's and been correct on each ocasion. I play 6 max limit STT's on Stars and basically what they do is keep raising the pot until they push others out of it and then dump the chips to the shortest stack. My best one was reporting 3 colluders in a 6 max game (they only pay top 2), all 3 failed to cash but I reported anyway and they all were banned.

It's only been the past few months I've started reporting colluders but now I'll report anything I feel suspicious. I'll gather the evidence and then follow them on other tables. To think of all the times I've been sat at a table when I'm all in and one player types "call and we'll check him down" or tells the other player what their hole cards are and I've done nothing.

PS are pro-active and do things about colluders, I can't say the same for other site's including Ongaming Sad
Report chipfire227 April 27, 2012 6:35 PM BST
To be fair every time Ive reported players to BF they have been banned.

Only been refunded once tho.
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