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16 May 12
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quite simply disgrace.A firm that's gone to pieces. An uneducated arselickin clown like Broon shouldn't be allowed within a caber of a microphone.
RUK is a shambles tbf capewine.
gone way downhill in recent years imv...
i left them months ago and i'm glad i did tbh...
gone way downhill in recent years imv...
i left them months ago and i'm glad i did tbh...
A puzzling decision to say the least,probably couldn't find anyone else who wanted it.
and whatever happened to that bloke andy constantinou...?
i thought he was good and he vanished.
only to be replaced by someone who just quotes i/r prices from betfair...?
i thought he was good and he vanished.
only to be replaced by someone who just quotes i/r prices from betfair...?
shame he got the boot from RUK in place of a bloke who reads out i/r prices tbh.
he seems a decent bloke and he had pretty good knowledge.
as i said...RUK gone way downhill over the last year or two imv...
he seems a decent bloke and he had pretty good knowledge.
as i said...RUK gone way downhill over the last year or two imv...
Thought he had already appeared on ruk.. "Kelso" ?? 
Or am I having a "shed" moment !!
Or am I having a "shed" moment !!
no surprise from a channel that used to be better than atr but is now a shambles and charges £20 per month for the honour of watching ****wits like brown
cancelled last month here no interest in lining his pocket
cancelled last month here no interest in lining his pocket
he is by no means the only one btw
non entities like chris dixon (would shat himself if he ever gave an opinion that was not straight from his timeform annual) and the in running bloke who seems a nice enough man but just cant help stating the in running price of every animal ever add nothing to the "service"
non entities like chris dixon (would shat himself if he ever gave an opinion that was not straight from his timeform annual) and the in running bloke who seems a nice enough man but just cant help stating the in running price of every animal ever add nothing to the "service"
don't think i've ever heard chris dixon have a pop at a jockey tbh...
is he not the guy who always says 'to be fair to...' when a jockey gives one an 'iffy' ride...?
is he not the guy who always says 'to be fair to...' when a jockey gives one an 'iffy' ride...?
that is him
the in running bloke criticised somebody the other day (tbf to him) and dixon looked at him as if to say you dont do that on here mate
the in running bloke criticised somebody the other day (tbf to him) and dixon looked at him as if to say you dont do that on here mate
sounds about right charnier...
not keen on GUTLESS WONDER's tbh...
not keen on GUTLESS WONDER's tbh...
Send Dave Yates up there with Angus Macnae , Dave can then talk b0llocks and Angus just keep agreeing with him .....
I thought the 'Timeform view' was always espoused by L Hislop.
Thanks for the kind words HH - however just to say I wasn't given the tic tac from RUK! They were always really good to me, encouraging and complimentary which was nice. In the end it just took up too much time away from my punting which has always been my main focus so decided to knock it on the head & I've been full time punting with no sidelines since.
Triple Trig has a point, I'd did rather blaze a trail at times but that was just eagerness to share knowledge and I felt (generally) what I said had merit, least I'd put the hours in beforehand whenever I was on.
I understand the frustrations in regards to some of the presenter/pundit combo's, best way to see it is we pay to watch the racing, which is the main thing and just treat the rest as an aside. I really enjoy listening to Mellish and Willoughby, I know James is eccentric but he's unique in his approaches and hence interesting in my book so when those two are on in particular I'm always listening attentively and when some of the other's are on who's opinion I don't value so much I just zone out and zone back in for the races themselves.
I know it might smack as defending the establishment a bit but there really are some top people working @ RUK, behind the scenes in the production and they do a very good job - so paying for the subscription is more than just paying those 'front of house' you see every day - that might make it fractionally easier to part with the cash knowing the wealth is being spread to more than just ya man blabbing!
Be lucky chaps.
Triple Trig has a point, I'd did rather blaze a trail at times but that was just eagerness to share knowledge and I felt (generally) what I said had merit, least I'd put the hours in beforehand whenever I was on.
I understand the frustrations in regards to some of the presenter/pundit combo's, best way to see it is we pay to watch the racing, which is the main thing and just treat the rest as an aside. I really enjoy listening to Mellish and Willoughby, I know James is eccentric but he's unique in his approaches and hence interesting in my book so when those two are on in particular I'm always listening attentively and when some of the other's are on who's opinion I don't value so much I just zone out and zone back in for the races themselves.
I know it might smack as defending the establishment a bit but there really are some top people working @ RUK, behind the scenes in the production and they do a very good job - so paying for the subscription is more than just paying those 'front of house' you see every day - that might make it fractionally easier to part with the cash knowing the wealth is being spread to more than just ya man blabbing!
Be lucky chaps.
i respect you for knocking the punditry on the head and putting food on the table through your punting and punting ALONE studious...
HONOURABLE imv...
HONOURABLE imv...
lol cape - no doors ajar! If I was that way intended I'd do a shift every 3 or 4 months to stay in touch just in case, the thought crossed my mind a few years ago but I put my faith in my ability. If the punting went wrong now I'd be too mortified to want anything to do with racing let alone talking about it on the box that's for sure.
HH it's good when it's good and hard when it isn't - my P/L from York this afternoon doesn't make for pleasant reading & I'm really harsh on myself when, for want of better words, I **** things up.
Think the main thing is I love it and that's the ingredient that helps to get down to it daily - when I'm hating the game it's because I'm overworking myself and forgetting life exists outside of racing and betting but racing is my passion (was done on that score when my old man took me the track as a 5yo) and touch wood I've been fortunate enough to make it pay for me thus far.
I definitely find that the hardest thing - work life balance - I'm 28 and feel like 58 at least twice a week - not good!
HH it's good when it's good and hard when it isn't - my P/L from York this afternoon doesn't make for pleasant reading & I'm really harsh on myself when, for want of better words, I **** things up.
Think the main thing is I love it and that's the ingredient that helps to get down to it daily - when I'm hating the game it's because I'm overworking myself and forgetting life exists outside of racing and betting but racing is my passion (was done on that score when my old man took me the track as a 5yo) and touch wood I've been fortunate enough to make it pay for me thus far.
I definitely find that the hardest thing - work life balance - I'm 28 and feel like 58 at least twice a week - not good!
Used to be £300 watchit but I'd imagine it's gone up rather than down since.
£300 when losing was probably welcome,but when you would be winning more on a bet i can see how it could get to be a pain.
yes Studious...it's a hard game is full-time punting (if you want to make it pay that is)...
good stuff...and i'm glad you shut the door fully.
the easy option was to keep the door ajar but you'd have lost your self-respect if you'd have done that imv...
at the end of the day if the pro-punting goes awol...just get a job as a pete sampras lookalike somewhere...
good stuff...and i'm glad you shut the door fully.
the easy option was to keep the door ajar but you'd have lost your self-respect if you'd have done that imv...
at the end of the day if the pro-punting goes awol...just get a job as a pete sampras lookalike somewhere...
I never thought i'd be saying this but i reckon Gordon Broon has done ok tonight! It's a stretch but i'm training my mind to forget his previous misdemeanours to broadcasting and treating him as a new presenter. Maybe, having more time to cover things in depth that RUK affords makes him look more accomplished than the 'crash bang wallop and here's more ads' coverage of ATR.
oh hang on studious...before you toddle off...
why is it that most pundits are scared to criticise jockeys...?
i couldn't sleep at night if i was on the telly and wanted to have a pop at one but i was too scared to do it tbh...
why is it that most pundits are scared to criticise jockeys...?
i couldn't sleep at night if i was on the telly and wanted to have a pop at one but i was too scared to do it tbh...
I've looked into the option HH but due to Pete's very rare public appearance I'd be doing one day a year on about £19.99 an hour - desperate times.
aye...think you're about 20 years too late tbh studious...
i know watchit.
do you remember the 'BECKS' bloke who went on DRAGONS DEN...?
do you remember the 'BECKS' bloke who went on DRAGONS DEN...?
The need to stay on the train and ruffle no feathers.Look how Lydia was treated when she said something about A.P.He refused to talk to the channel.
I couldn't keep it shut if i saw something dodgy,but there are all types in this world.
good on her TT...at least she showed some b@lls imv...
toomany GUTLESS WONDER's out there for my liking.
toomany GUTLESS WONDER's out there for my liking.
Truth be told I was never told 'don't criticise jocks/trainers etc' and when I did make inference to things - christ if you knew my views on some of the practices that go on in UK racing you'd fall off your chair and I firmly believe I'm 100% correct on them - I was never told tone it down either - so fair play to the production team for giving me reign there.
However I know when Lydia in the past (and fair play to that girl, she loves the game and isn't scared to throw the boot in, or at least wasn't & I have a lot of respect for her even though sometimes she goes on a bit and drives me mad ..) made references to bad rides like AP's @ Ascot on Jonjo's cheltenham horse - well you saw what happened.
At the end of the day most of the presenters and pundits need the wage, they have families to support, being on track three/four days a week gets you friendly with the jocks/trainers - they simply don't want to rock the boat which in turn might lead to complaints from the 'inner sanctum' - interviews not being given and general issues which the channel who ultimately employ them - don't want or need.
Not saying I agree with it, I don't but ultimately it's a harsh world out there and I can understand 'towing the line' rather than sticking the head above the proverbial parapet.
However I know when Lydia in the past (and fair play to that girl, she loves the game and isn't scared to throw the boot in, or at least wasn't & I have a lot of respect for her even though sometimes she goes on a bit and drives me mad ..) made references to bad rides like AP's @ Ascot on Jonjo's cheltenham horse - well you saw what happened.
At the end of the day most of the presenters and pundits need the wage, they have families to support, being on track three/four days a week gets you friendly with the jocks/trainers - they simply don't want to rock the boat which in turn might lead to complaints from the 'inner sanctum' - interviews not being given and general issues which the channel who ultimately employ them - don't want or need.
Not saying I agree with it, I don't but ultimately it's a harsh world out there and I can understand 'towing the line' rather than sticking the head above the proverbial parapet.
Why do racing folk think they are above criticism.
Hanson and co have no problem with telling it how it is on MOTD.
If a jockey rides a stinker,or rides one that looks dodgy,then it should be discussed.
Hanson and co have no problem with telling it how it is on MOTD.
If a jockey rides a stinker,or rides one that looks dodgy,then it should be discussed.
correct TRD....
thanx for the response studious...
not keen on the 'towing the line' stance tho tbh...
these people are on the telly to give THEIR view...
if they see something 'iffy'they SHOULD say so.
like i say i couldn't sleep at night thinking i'd seen something and not spoke up about it.
and as for 'putting food on the table'...
if they are as good as they are supposed to be (and they are employed because they are SUPPOSED to know what they are talking about) then they should be able to make £ from thier own opinion.
sad state of affairs really...
anyway thanx for the response studious...
thanx for the response studious...
not keen on the 'towing the line' stance tho tbh...
these people are on the telly to give THEIR view...
if they see something 'iffy'they SHOULD say so.
like i say i couldn't sleep at night thinking i'd seen something and not spoke up about it.
and as for 'putting food on the table'...
if they are as good as they are supposed to be (and they are employed because they are SUPPOSED to know what they are talking about) then they should be able to make £ from thier own opinion.
sad state of affairs really...
anyway thanx for the response studious...
yes i agree watchit.
i liked him on the telly and the difference between him and the bloke who reads out previous i/r betfair prices is startling tbh...
i liked him on the telly and the difference between him and the bloke who reads out previous i/r betfair prices is startling tbh...
I like the presenters and pundits who you know are players.Nothing worse than listening to someone who either doesn't bet or bets peanuts.Back it up with hard cash.
Andy was one who you knew was betting for real,those people are worth listening to.
T.R.D - you're spot on and in fact in the US for example things are much more open and up for debate. I think the incestuous nature of UK racing lends itself to a lot of the people at the top end adopting the attitude that they are above questioning - they care for their circles and little outside of them.
It's a backward attitude but it's always been there - it's the original sport of the landed gentry after all and though times have changed attitudes take longer to do so imo.
Watchit - yes I did and do frequently to the lads who I talk to my punting and theories about daily. If you knew the preparation Vintage Crop had when it was sent over for the 1993 Melbourne Cup you wouldn't believe it and things naturally have moved forward leaps in the two decades since.
Right, before I get myself into trouble it's time to sign off - bit of dinner and then gotta work on trying to back a few horses at York that don't finish where binoculars are needed to find 'em.
It's a backward attitude but it's always been there - it's the original sport of the landed gentry after all and though times have changed attitudes take longer to do so imo.
Watchit - yes I did and do frequently to the lads who I talk to my punting and theories about daily. If you knew the preparation Vintage Crop had when it was sent over for the 1993 Melbourne Cup you wouldn't believe it and things naturally have moved forward leaps in the two decades since.
Right, before I get myself into trouble it's time to sign off - bit of dinner and then gotta work on trying to back a few horses at York that don't finish where binoculars are needed to find 'em.
I lost all respect for him when he admitted that he was covering the Cheltenham festival for some media outlet, that included the first 4 races, and after the fourth race he left, as he wasn't being paid to stay on!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe he wanted to get out the car park early lol
It's quite a wonder isn't it watchit!
Anyway nuff said - let's see if the fire burns brightly tomorrow, enjoy all.
It's quite a wonder isn't it watchit!
Anyway nuff said - let's see if the fire burns brightly tomorrow, enjoy all.
the time KIRBY rode that BUTLER horse at kempton and went off like a scalded cat and fell in a big black hole...
all the pundits had to say was 'what a dreadful ride from kirby'...
is that the time chris dixon said 'to be fair to adam'...watchit...?
all the pundits had to say was 'what a dreadful ride from kirby'...
is that the time chris dixon said 'to be fair to adam'...watchit...?
Think the main thing is I love it and that's the ingredient that helps to get down to it daily - when I'm hating the game it's because I'm overworking myself and forgetting life exists outside of racing and betting but racing is my passion (was done on that score when my old man took me the track as a 5yo) and touch wood I've been fortunate enough to make it pay for me thus far.
We could be twins Andy (well except for the age thingy) Good evening btw..
We could be twins Andy (well except for the age thingy) Good evening btw..
aye that's the one watchit.
dreadful punditry that...dreadful.
dreadful punditry that...dreadful.
Bet Broonie would love to slide his greasy bonce between Lydia`s ample charlies.
He's still at it. Remembers Romany Ryme running in a Sedgefield many moons ago. Perhaps this is because it figures in the form in the Racing Post. He really is a fu cking charlatan!
see the rottweiller lassie's husband died when she was filming it watchit...?
i think they were seperated at the time or something...
might have been ex-husband tbh...
i think they were seperated at the time or something...
might have been ex-husband tbh...
never watch it tbh watchit.
i thought THE APPRENTICE was poor tonight tbh...
i thought THE APPRENTICE was poor tonight tbh...
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