JUDICIAL RULING

fell at 6th bend while whispering sweet nothings in another dog's lughole. sincerely hope he is OK but has a hell of a draw in semi. although pinged both times from 4 so far at the don. they're cheering this one on in south wales, that's for sure

think the dog got arrested by old bill on way to drop for assault

controversial comment there from ps. we're all allowed to express ourselves freely on this forum but there's no need for uncorroborated allegations

NEWSFLASH judicial ruling gains backing from entire swansea fc football squad. "anyone who isn't rooting for this dog is not a swans fan" said ashley williams, club captain.
"i will not tolerate people at this club, the supporters, players, coaching staff, administrative staff, or even people who pretend to give a **** about swansea fc but really support a much bigger and more established team, even wishing privately that judicial ruling does not win the 2012 derby. i hope that clears up any confusion on this matter" said brendan rogers, manager, whilst stroking a novelty cuddly toy of judicial ruling and sticking a small penknife into a picture of dolores.

skoolboy error,its brendan GUARDIOLA...even the most fervent of egg chasers know that now

After flying early in the first round, Judicial Ruling "took off" in the 2nd round and i was totally taken in, thinking we had a very serious Derby dog here. Transpires, the form he's showing now is more the norm and although a chance to reach the decider, would fancy others more to lift the trophy

Ayalmz the ruler look well iffy

needs to get out on the p of ping on saturday from that draw, looks like a bunny dog to me

i backed and layed it think i win £312 no lose
but i think the chances of collecting on this one are slim-nil

LAST PRICE MATCHED 29.00

You where right about Barefoot Allstar mate, what's your opinion here?? Looking ominous?

Judicial Ruling has been struggling with an injury and may miss Greyhound Derby semis on Saturday. Decision likely tomorrow.
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NOT LOOKING GOOD.  was money waiting at 22.00,  300 quid,  didnt get matched but now drifting quite badly.  Nearly all red on oddschecker too. 

Just touched 38 on here.  Taken all me money down,  dont want to get picked off.

Everything else been filled in on.  Jfk  was heavily last night.  Just had ironman this monring.

I wouldn't wish luck like that on anybody but if he wasn't able to run it would be absolutely huge for me

taken about 8k since the market was opened after the draw, not a penny for him.

id say about 80% on his heat too.

Lame as a koo t

I take it  by your comments he's out than? Flap

12.12 laid t1 bet 3n2

Anybody hear anything? I see somebody wants to back him @ 30 now

havent heard anything was trying to back him at 80 for small remember kicking king and binocular 1000 NR's and win, sometimes think its worth taking a chance.

Pat Daly, owner of Judicial Ruling, had very much the opposite news of his charge.

Pat confirmed the rumours that all was not well with Judicial and he admitted that “I thought he had no chance of qualifying on Tuesday. He has been struggling since the second round with a shoulder muscle problem and we won’t know until tomorrow if he will be able to run on Saturday”.

On oddschecker Bet Vic has no price for him to win his heat but on there actual website he is still in...

hmmmmmmmmm

Unless its 100% no chance it be called on the day!
So can't play in that heat till than, **** me run ok Tursday if lame

hope the organisers are happy
5 dog semi final down to silly schedule
a week probrably wouldnt have been enough to recover anyway
but with so much dosh at stake
the trainer keeps it in just in case there's trouble
this is totally wrong and give's the ABS mob more ammunition

raz george was the best dog in the comp last year
ran injured in the final
all kept quiet ...... 
this is not right lads

It's a derby semi what do you do
Don't get to many them the small boys
Hard call! I want out selfish reasons!

It's a derby semi what do you do
Don't get to many them the small boys
Hard call! I want out selfish reasons!

They'll decide Saturday morning it was said on RPGTV.

I think they will run

i think they will run, and to be honest, i think you have to. its the semi final of the derby, they ran him last two races when they felt he was feeling it, only difference now imo is the injury must be worse than it was pre-QF. think if it was run of the mill comp, or was a re-run like we had with molly, you pull the dog, but i think you take a chance here, hope the injury isnt as bad as you fear, then have a week with all the ultrasound and vet you can get in and see what you can do if you qualify; and hope you dont have to live with your conscience if the dog does a proper injury; or worse.

i did think the money at 30 was pf's.   trying to get him on side for cheapish.

was tempted but had some room in the to make final book of mine so laid him there.  Winning me about 10k now outright ,  was hoping to take a few hundred at 16-20's.  Hopefully will rin for me book and i can take some now at 20?????  tho i doubt it. :-(

tbh, id rather be a backer for small at a silly price than go all out to lay it - still a fair chance the dog runs and got through last two rounds when supposedly feeling something, sometimes everyone thinking the same thing shoving something out can make it value to bet it; although appreciate no money on the market unless its you!!

anyway, good few beers down, 5.15am wake up call tomorrow so i can go gym before work tomorrow, i must be FECKING MAD.

If the dog has an injury he should not be allowed to run, could end his career. If he is not right he will not win anyway.

when the market opened i priced up to 105% and kept bugatti,  got filled in almost straight away on every dog bar judicial.  Taken half of what i wanted for judicial on bugatti now to try and un lob side me book but me not like these injuries worries. 

Way down on what i wanted to take, but just have to be careful now not being in the know and all that.  I dread seeing the non runner thread being ttt.  i dont think i could open it. lol. Constantly refreshing the racing post / oddschecker. 

Im now holding 10k green on him, i was hoping / planning to take 400 at 16 ish when the market opened, as most books were 12-14 so i think it would have gone.  There was 300 at 22.00 asking for a layer initially but i thought that was big (if the dog wasnt injured).  Would take that now. 

some 23.00 just went.

Eastmead, a thread has just been started on Indian Joe, had niggling injury but still won Derby. I know the dogs come first but semi of the English Derby is a once in a lifetime and could make his stud value and Judicial would have the life of riley, race again or not

None of the money for Judicial was mine, my book is the same as it was and will be staying that way, i think

Woodmanchester,Old enough to remember Indian Joe winning,you are right he had a niggly toe injury and won the final "on three legs"
I know the temptation is there but dont think it right to run a dog with a shoulder injury - or any injury. HOW CAN THEY PASS THE TRACK VET?

Eastmead, they would have to be sound in the paddock but the risk is problem could flare up during the race, or even after the line, giving the trainer a week to get him right for the final. In these instances, trainers and vets really earn their wages!

Droopys Scholes won The Derby with a niggle, I bet half of the dogs
still involved are not absolutely 100% sound, 2 races left, as long as the
injury is not really bad, you have to take a chance, having a chance of
owning/training a Derby Winner might only come once in a lifetime!!!!

This dog ain't got a niggle of toes or feet its a shoulder injury!

The dog went over on its own Tuesday !
If this dog for some reason goes down in the race and god forbid turned run the other way or had a stand up would not want be in there shoes!

droopys loner was lame with a trapped nerve on the thursday before her fantastic effort behind shelbourne geoff,they managed to work on it and get her right,whos to say judicial cant be put right without knowing the extent of the injury.

You can work on nerves with the massarge
Don't know about shoulders 6 weeks with them

These lads know what they are doing, same owner and trainer of Judicial Pride. Curly trained Serene Rumble who was having problems during the 2003 Irish Derby but had still managed to win the first 3 rounds, they pulled him out in the quarter finals. He also trained Mid West Blue in the 2008 Irish Derby who had problems and only failed to make the final by 1/2L. In other words if the dog can't run it won't, if there is a chance he will.

yeah there's absolutely no doubt they can manufacture a run out of him tomorrow night, but if they do you can write the dog off long term

just heard the bubble gang have purchased it for 2.7 million

its been given to rickie H so he can train it to win a maiden open at wimb for hurdlers called bubbly ruling, so far only one entry

PF....... We don't mention one of those dogs that you have listed on here!!!!!!

Is he Defo in now? want to take 6/4 JFK but it go sp only if there non- runner

Plenty laid at 3.5 to qualify.

Would not want to be on the out side of him!

Couldn't  turn left

taken a fair bit now at 7.00 and got a little left at 6.6.   This yrs a case of what if for me now.  Still got nice wins with judicial and bert, but after the first heat, just wanted a good run from bugatti. 

Not qualifying cost me 1500 alone.

Tonight = totally totally totally gutted.

unlucky mate,really hope judicial wins it now

come on judicial ruling!

been heavily bet at the mo:

having not laid him last round really was happy to take some (300)  @7.00...

i dont want during the week to see a massive drift and filled in elsewhere, Checked me figs, took another 3 at 7.00.

someone took me 6.6

and now my 6.0...

no injury worries at all.

Did he turn his head at the first bend?

Did not turn himself at the first bend, let alone his head!!!!!!!!

eastmead bit rich calling for it to be a nonrunner
not to long back i said the same about that screw grant messing up the derby seem to recall you thought differently then