don night of the year thread LETS GO !!!!

great prices in the middle

1/12 imho eyeball

don't mind taking twelves....but evens ?

going for  shelbourne abi big price.

paddy just?!?

just eyeball......

12-1 the 3 funnilly emough

dead heat?

paddy needs 1 big time

paddy wins

paddy needs 1 big time

totally iris , just rails...be well in trouble drawn out a bit surrounded by pace

never been beat in red

still

trap one highlyrequired

sky paddy or rioja.... whoever gets the draws

the derby is all about getting a bit of luck though,if he keeps getting drawn in red,who knows!!

4-1 mutual decision at newcastle .... HELLO

also backed mutual decision irishone, massive price IF its fully fit tonight

oi oi oi what a price

CANT STAND AFTERTIMERS !!!!!!







12 May 12 22:01
4-1 mutual decision at newcastle .... HELLO

you having a decent night mate ?

not alot of outsiders going in

 

         Normal service resumed here with a runaway seven-lengths pluswin by Bubbly Phoenix, who trapped modestly but then showed a burst of pace to take advantage of bunching on his inside. Paul Young's dog then cut the bend, chopping off You Mind Me and Trewmount Snap.  That pair then collided on the second bendalong with Kirkland Black,  with slow starting  Longwood Hawk missing the trouble and turning second down the back. Trewmount Snap, of the non stayers, held on best for third. But Bubbly Phoenix was back to his majestic first round best, moving very wide off the last bend.


     

pedro for an acca mate... over a grand ... fingers crossed

been a decent enough night without any fireworks yet, betting red for some fireworks tho, think taylor will barge way to front but maybe use up a few lengths doing so, longwood had a fight after line last round so got a bit about it, should chase it home hard 25s got to

this looks a good race, 3quick dogs to 1st bend , which one will get there 1st.

 

    Razldazl Jayfkay took a step wide on leaving the boxes, and that was effectively the end of the Derby for the pair on his outside, Skywalker Gold and Bowtime Sykes, but not the ante-post favourite, who quickly straightenedup and burst clear. He did appear to lose his footing slightly coming out of the first bend, and the chasing pack were then on his tail and made him work harder than expected. Griague Orchard was soon and always second, keepng middle going down by less than a length, Westmead Adonis always third, a further half length back.

   

 

   The syndicate that includes Tony McCoy are getting a great run in this year's Derby from Shelbourne Geoff, who flew out and then battled hard to come back when passed by Droopys Loner  down the back. For the third successive round, Droopys Loner has taken part in a truly exciting battle - he deserves appearance money just for making the Classic a thriller! He has yet to trap, and if he does, it will be interesting. He has serious pace. Mark My Words did not look as though he was going to qualify, drifting wide at the bend, and then getting crowded at the quarter and third. He was still fifth coming out of the third bend but kept on best coming home to survive into Tuesday's quarter-finals.  Westmead Maldini and Go Go Sonic were always struggling to make it after very slow starts.

How lucky was Taylors Sky at the first bend?

He's on borrowed time if he keeps falling out like that.

 

    Razldazl Rioga blasted clear from trap one and although Mill Maximus ran a race and a half to keep on his tail throughout (beaten less than a length, edging closer throughout!), it was nevertheless pretty much race over at the traps. Rioga, the Cork Laurels champion, looks lethal drawn red.  Mill Maximus wil have cheered the Kelly Macari camp after Mill Bling Bling went out in the previous heat. Droopys Lorenzo came away poorly but showed good pace to go and stay third. The others never got into the race.

   

serious race that, didnt sid run well

any other race sky was out

i agree Dan, not to mention he gets every draw, and withdrawn dogs in his races, becoming comedy.

in fairness he is a good dog, but can't be called special until he does something out of the ordinary imo

taylors ran a cracking race after losing his footing at the start

How much luck can 1 dog get? Every draw going last year, 5 dog races and dogs knocking each other about in front of him. Thought these things were supposed to even out!!

Duke,its part luck,but mainly a cracking dog running well

u/l irishone

2 dogs have fell over nearly at 1st bend ,just saying other race it cannot qualify

#   It's now 12 starts from red, 12 wins for Boher Paddy but he was made to work tremendously hard by Farloe Ironman, who pinged and led to near the line. There was a long delay before the photo confirmed Charlie Lister's dog had got up. It was a fantastic buckle and Matt Dartnall can count himself a little unlucky not to have won - but is safely through. Bucks Blade came off best as the field, a long way behind, bunched off the last and took third. The others had also been in first bend bunching, Shelbourne Abi missing the kick.

decent bet on bert in the next race, all about clearing 1 early

"luck" "smuck" been punting dogs for 20 years never seen a dog that gets the fortune Taylors Sky does the odds on the draws he gets and withdrawn dogs in races etc etc is astromical now

would take a short price he gets red in quarters lol

No its not widow, he's shown nothing, not starting at all not standing up properly at the start.  he needed 4 to deck 6 otherwise he goes out, he'd have gone out last round if eden star had run.  Pedro is so unlucky to go out yet nothing seemingly goes against sky ever!

lost all boot to the turn.....not the same animal imo

exactly czech

but itshardly a conspiracy duke!!Sum dogs are just lucky and sum arnt!!You surely can't deny that Taylors is a great dog though?!

laid snapper here

laid snapper here

same as last week for me small bet on malbay this race

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     Paul Young's Derby is definitely back on track with a double thanks to Young Sid, the Blue Riband hero, who pinged and made all. Defending champ Taylors Sky (trap two) and red runner Longwood Days were both slow away and collided at the start - they looked to face a struggle to qualify before they got a stroke of luck. Fast up Castlebridge Dan ran off at the bend and clobbered Jaytee Pedro, and suddenly Taylors Sky was left second. Longwood Days took third as Jaytee Perdo got an awful run, stopped at the second, halfway and third.


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didnt say it was a conspiracy, he's just a seriously lucky dog, as czech said cant remember a dog quite so lucky.  He was a very good dog but he isnt the same dog as last year at the moment or even close

Taylors cut from 9's to 8's!!

You're right duke,not the same but he wasn't exactly on fire in the early rounds of last years derby,think he was 8's when he won one round when the owner said throw your slips in the bin because the bowswer hadn't been round

oi oi bert

just

where has bert got this early from looks unleadable

give him a bad draw and lets see what price he goes and how well he does?, if he can consistently overcome problems he will could become great, but could anyone honestly put him in brackets with Hawk, Rapid Ranger, College Causeway etc no chance

not the dogs fault he has never had a bad draw or make up lol

.51 hes coming along nicely

czech,any dog that wins the derby surely got to be classed a a great dog?

westmead lord, allen gift?

i am a harsh critic as you can gather only way to win at this game, if you call Sky great what are you calling westmead hawk???

Allen Gift?????!!!!!!!!

And don't get me started on sky's owners!!

no whitewidow some get very lucky

Westmead Hawk was,is,and always will be the best greyhound I will ever see!!!!!!

sky needed and got the draw

patricia's hope on the other hand.................

excuse me i had a score ew allen at 200 can we leave him out of it please

irishone,you need a lot more than luck to win the derby

top class animal case!!!  ;)

no mate
three runs in seven days is a lottery

what do you call Ayamzagirl or romford car two?

5 dog best bet of the night

All the main boys gone though its going to be some Tuesday!

So if you owned a derby winner you wouldn't call it a great dog,just a lucky dog or a lottery dog,or a dog that just got good draws?!!!

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Owner trainer John Gardner has his Coolavanny Bert showing fantastic pace up and he comprehensively took command here as Blonde Snapper, who had also trapped, veered wide early from three.  It seemed all over, but wait, Ireland's Droopys Jet, for the first time getting a clear run and finally looking at home round the track, came with a great effort, was arguably crowded slightly off the last as he moved up and then challenged on the outside of the leader before going down by the minimum margin.   Two cracking dogs who still have a great chance, as has Blonde Snapper, if drawn further out.  The others here never got into the race.

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whooosh

wouldn't call it a great dog unless it did anything great

I don't believe in luck i am a professional gambler

oioi the ladbrokes razldazl special didn't even fancy bugatti lol

looked faster

be a lottery next round

so winning the derby isnt great?!!  OK

i think a great dog needs to do a little more than win the english derby. Because of three things. The first is the track management which varies from race to race, and is not consistent. The second for me is the three races in 7 days. That makes it a lottery.The third is the draw.

Come back here after Tuesday when half the best dogs are out. Then tell me 10 days later that the winner was a great dog. For me there have been too many kinda ready's over the past 20 years, you'd be well up backing the rag every year i the final. So I do apologise if it upsets you but the English Derby does not necessarily provide a GREAT DOG imho.

can someone put draw up thx

irish,it doesn't upset me,lifes all about opinions!It would be boring otherwise!Surely you defeat you're own argument though about the 3 runs in a week?The dogs that come through those runs are the strong ones?Or lucky in a way,with Taylors getting red again!!!

that is comedy gold first out of 32 dogs pmsl

soz 24 nearly as good tho

aye them conspiracies again czech.....

Derby Draw

4 wides !

17 railers ……

Heat 1
1 taylors sky
2 rioja
3 hawk
4bugatti
5 Trumonout snap
6 Lorenzo

Heat 2
1 bert
2 tina
3 farloe iron man
4 sid
5  judicial
6 geoff

Heat 3
1 loner
2 mill maximus
3 longwood days
4 paddy
5 phoenix

6 jfk

Heat 4
1.    Mark my words
2.    Graigues
3.    3 bucks
4.    Jet
5.     Westmead
6.    snapper

your "great whitewidow"

Yeah would hate to own that lucky dog in trap one

oddball

"The dogs that come through those runs are the strong ones"

I took a 36 kg tullymurry out for a walk yesterday, decided to chase an angus bull, split its web, really strong dog, but wont run for a month now.

No mate the dogs that get through from now on are the lucky ones

They are not at their strongest in the semi's.

ok

like I said earlier,its all about opinions,some people on here take things a bit too seriously......

Mind you there a lot of macho trainers about over here that say they can get them back to full fitness in a couple of days

Even Bert's trainer got a bit like it in his post race interview. The vet is the main guide over here though and apart from the fee (extortionate) many say they dont really know the dogs.


My experience is that 3 days is not a reasonable amount of time for recovery

whitewidow
12 May 12 23:10
some people on here take things a bit too seriously......

fecking right they do .... its their living

any 33s going loner please ?

for the heat that is

how many times has it been picked up now ?

hey only mucking about whitewidow, if your a greyhound lover your ok by me

our opinion on taylors being "great yet" unresolved tho

Czech , sky has to get in the Q F, rioja will take its ground dont you think ?

ha no probs czech,all just good crack nd opinions,its what its all about man!love the dogs me,just hasnt been the same for me since my dad died unexpectedly not long ago,he loved the dogs,miss himso much

Sad news white sorry to hear it . Time heals mate ,sadly a lot of time ,chin up ..

i think a crisp packet will blow onto the track at the first bend and 5 dogs will go for it leaving sky to win!

in all seriousness agree m8 there is alot of early its no cheap lead or gimme, the way he is trapping seems anyone can have his ground? all very well a dog being tuned up as you go along but he is in a bad trapping habit for sure, Tuesday wont be straightforward, looking forward to it

sad that mate, you keep loving the dogs for him i say

cheers case and czech,like you say case,a lot of time,and a lot of other things aswell...can't bring him back,gone way too soon and so unfairly,but me and him always loved the dogs so I always still watch them,maybe it makes me close to him in a way