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woodmanchester
10 May 12 14:46
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Think a bit too much is made of it. It's actually 3 runs in 8 days, just a brief spell of virtually 1 race per 3 days. What's the alternative anyway? Juggle the last 3 rounds around and race the final on a Tuesday, or adopt an Irish angle, a week between each round, but any competition over 5 weeks, is too long drawn out, imo
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Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 10, 2012 2:59 PM BST
I've no problem with it but the week between each race is clearly the better option in my opinion. It would mean 1 extra week, hardly making it drawn out. It gives the trainers and dogs a better chance, you pick up a slight knock Saturday night or Tuesday night you're more than likely facked. At least with the extra couple of days it gives the trainers a chance to treat the dogs and gives the dogs a bit longer to recover.

Some people like this way as they say it's a great test and that's fair enough but given the choice i know which i'd rather.


It's not called "TERRIBLE TUESDAY" for nothing Plain
Report bannahan May 10, 2012 3:38 PM BST
Is the set up different in the Irish PF......i cant remember how they run it?
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 10, 2012 3:47 PM BST
The Irish is ran over 6 weeks as opposed to 5 weeks for the English.

1st round - Wed, Thur, Sat
2nd round - Thur, Sat

then each Saturday.

I think that way is better but nobody can complain about the way the English Derby is ran as everybody knows the set up and it's there choice whether to enter / bet themselves.
Report bannahan May 10, 2012 3:50 PM BST
Agreed, i know is supposedly makes it a test but for me its more of a test if all of the dogs are given (an equal and fair) time to recover, making sure to win it you have to beat the best at their best. Far more difficult to win a classic that way than just running 3 times in 8 days.

Mind you, i cant see them changing the set up.
Report patrick starr May 10, 2012 3:53 PM BST
I think its more the physiological affect on the greyhounds themselves,theres documented evidence that dogs can take longer to recover from the exertions of a race than they are allowed by this structure,dont ask me to find it,i cant be bothered but it is out there and explains why terrible tuesday happens.

Infact it was a regular little money spinner for me at the stow where a trainer would run maybe sat nite/mon bags then harlow weds and fri bags/sat nite,would always take that dog on if possible on that 3rd run.
Report bannahan May 10, 2012 3:55 PM BST
Yeah, Tuesday a day for laying the shorties for me, been on the wrong end of shorty getting turned over many a time on TTues.

Its only taken me 10 years to work that out Cry
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 10, 2012 3:57 PM BST
I'm heading to mass on Tuesday morning this year Laugh see if God can help me through it
Report bannahan May 10, 2012 3:58 PM BST
You may need more than God PF Laugh

Be lucky Wink
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 10, 2012 4:08 PM BST
You're probably right Laugh

gl
Report mesi May 10, 2012 4:37 PM BST
we all thought you were GOD pf Laugh
Report woodmanchester May 10, 2012 5:57 PM BST
Did you know GOD spelt backwards says DOG? Happy
Report bannahan May 10, 2012 6:16 PM BST
Woody....re your backing and laying thread.....
Report woodmanchester May 11, 2012 12:13 AM BST
Bannahan. No, still not laying yet and doubt i will. When i say adjusting my book, i meant adding some dogs, making less winnings on others, just covering. Still got my big 2 Maximus and Sky. Usually, i have 1 running for good money in the final, 1 for okay money, about 4 break-evens and roughly 2 slight losses, just gives me an interest all the way through. Apart from Derby night itself, i dont really do too much betting in the heats, unless i fancy something well overpriced, so Jane's tipping competition gives me that added interest.

Anyway, am i going daft or something? Sure the Irish Derby is run over 5 weeks, as originally stated. There may be 6 rounds, but round 2 is run after just 1 week. I'm first to admit my mental arithmatic aint great, but think i got this one right? Confused
Report woodmanchester May 11, 2012 1:12 AM BST
Oh, just dawned on me, think the Irish Derby is spread over 5 weeks and 3 nights, with the Wednesday start
Report woodmanchester May 11, 2012 6:34 AM BST
The one before last post didnt quite add up. Anyway, ought to have the finalists running for various amounts, that's the plan anyway, dependant on any more tweeks and what happens from here on in, starting tomorrow night Plain
Report Addy_D May 11, 2012 7:58 AM BST
Usually, i have 1 (1 dog) running for good money in the final, 1 (2 dogs) for okay money, about 4 (6 dogs) break-evens and roughly 2(8 dogs) slight losses

and there was me thinking that Usually you just talk facking bowlocks Laugh

morning woody.
Report patrick starr May 11, 2012 8:07 AM BST
he was thinking of his australian holiday,nap.
Report pocket pairs May 11, 2012 9:32 AM BST
dont see what all the fuss is in 3 runs in 8 days the dogs run it no promblem at all over 480m, some short running types who dont quite get 480m might struggle but why they get entered to begin with is another topic alltogether

its what the trainers do or dont  on the the rest days that makes the differance Wink
Report mesi May 11, 2012 3:59 PM BST
cant see any prob either,in fact when they run sat to sat their trainers will more than likely gallop them mid week anyhow
Report db1974 May 11, 2012 4:39 PM BST
Can I ask a newbie question here:

What's the format from here on in?

48 dogs run on Saturday

Then what?
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 11, 2012 4:43 PM BST
Saturday 48 - 3 qualify
Tuesday 24 - 3 qualify
Saturday 19th 12 - 3 qualify
Saturday 26th 6 - 1 winner
Report mesi May 11, 2012 5:01 PM BST
pf, can i ask what that one winner is
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 11, 2012 5:05 PM BST
The dog that passses the line first at approx 22 hours 10 minutes 28.20secs on May 26th
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y May 11, 2012 5:06 PM BST
**22 hours 12 minutes 28.20secs on May 26th**

if one of them passes the line at 10 minutes it means they have cheated Devil
Report irishone May 11, 2012 7:00 PM BST
three runs in a week


.......  a fecking joke
Report woodmanchester May 12, 2012 9:18 AM BST
and we all know what that winner will be, dont we?...
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