*** Betfair 600, Shelbourne Park ***

I ask hill what dog run well last week at shell he said slick
So exter 25 m might bring somethink out of him, your write about dissapointing!
I thought the trend dog looks big at 9:2
Gl finding it hard to get on might play fair prices tonite

Who Layed

4.60      €195
4.80      €171
5.00      €244
5.10      €5

about Airlie Impact??


10.00      €73

about Pool Hawk??



I hope Willyjoe takes care of Airlie Impact run up for you

He did run well after getting trouble on the bend, he showed massive pace 2 to 3 but never went by Bawna Missile at any stage to the pick up. I couldn't be backing him at short prices and have my doubts about him.

I would love to have got some of that about Pool Hawk now myself :)

Where do I watch tonite lads, 24 dogs igb nicked my money last week with out me watching a race?

igb looks to be working ok

Apr 21, 2012 -- 10:23AM, p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y wrote:

Only 1 bet for me tonight on the heats, Pool Hawk @ 4/1. He has a great draw and if coming away should be gone around the outside. He definately should have the leading off Slick Seattle and Kereight Bear and if going around in front they'll do well to back run him. Slick Seattle is the obvious danger but in my opinion he is the most dissappointing greyhound in Ireland and just always seems to find a way to lose. Lemon Velvet has a nice draw but i thought she ran desperate the last twice and she would have to lead up Bawna Missile which she could struggle to do.

wd pf

Thanks NGU, dream draw and had everything going for him tonight.


Fastaway King
Barefoot Hero (m)
Slick Seattle (m)
Razldazl Will (m)
Star Addition (w)
Gizmo Titan (w)


Socks Rocks
Kingo (m)
Dynamic Trend (m)
Airlie Impact (w)
Monleek Force (w)
Tyrur Willyjoe (w)


Razldazl George
Rockchase Buller
Ardkill Star
Kereight Bear (m)
Shine And Hope (m)
Crossfield Star (w)


Tibetan Skies
Lemon Velvet
Son Of Pride (m)
Royal Patrol (m)
Pool Hawk (w)
Big Momma Pumpin (w)

Starbets preview to the comp - The two outright selections are still there.

http://starbets.ie/greyhounds/plenty-of-exchanges-likely-in-betfair-600/

Its offical PF knows... Pool hawk nap.  was with my son last night and he got ardkill star 5/1 and kingo 2/1 with betfair mobile, as for myself i had the tri/cast in milldeen panthers race in cork...i nearly fell over when the t/cast  paid 17/1, Hard to call the winner but i thought Fastaway King might be a good outsider he ran well behind Kingo.

Ardkill Star was a massive price on here last night, could not work out why he was so big

What did Frankel see as he approached the line?

No idea

I was right beside him when he stopped Bassanio.. i think ted hegarty throw him a bone it brought back Memories of a Steptoe and son movie from the 70s.

Pretty happy with my picks
Thought slick got a wrack straight out the boxes cost him
Going to be a great race with will witch I'm happy he's run a nice race hope he's a slow burn to the Irish derby where takes off!

Fastaway was game kept on going which I liked

But I was very happy with trend he was out going into the second bend he's ****ing fly round the out side if he trap or better that got a bit ep which I don't he go far!

Good comp love that long run to the bend it's very fair

Its the umberrelas again why Frankel stopped. It happens half a dozen times every year and nearly twice every Derby!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVoDswGYnhQ.     This is the link to a steptoe and son film  C.O.M. Worth a look.

Tibetan Skies did get a bit bigger ante-post and i had a little go at 11/2 with saver George. Both beaten Saturday but still very optimistic. Razldazl Will will always be hard to beat when leading early, as will Willyjoe. Kingo game in front also. Competition shaping up very nicely

After looking at the heats last sat again my value bet would be Fastaway king 25/1e/w  1st 4  with ladbrooks ..it would be a surprise if he did.nt qualify for the s/finals in what looks to be the Easiest heats in the q/final.... he gave Kingo a right good race last sat... ,Raz will, ardkill star, tib skies,raz george, are between 5/1 to 6/1 to win,while  Fastaway king is over 6/1 to be in the first 4 a much better Proposition i belive.

Socks Rocks is a NR in heat 2.

I'm struggling to find any bets in the heats tonight at the prices quoted. Fastaway King looks fairly priced in heat 1 and perhaps Star Addition is too big @ 33s, he ran well behind Razldazl Will last week. I can't back any of them in heat 2, think Kingo will win but he can win at 6/4 biggest. Heat 3 the same, George and Bullet on the short side for me, Ardkill Star is a fair price. Heat 4 i suppose Pool Hawk could be the value again but i'm not entirely happy with his draw inside of Big Momma Pumpin who can go up well and went bang left last week.

Little change antepost betting after first round, said prices were stingy. Still, think my play was right. Said Kingo could do well at the start of the thread but thought unlikely to beat George in a clean race over 600yds, whereas it was doubtful George could get to grips with Skies, if the latter came away, so it was a play Skies and saver George, with slight doubts creeping in about Rockchase Bullet and with Razl Will stamina taken on trust. Transpires Will's very smart when leading but may not get all his own way later in the competition, like last time.

Have a great evening's racing lads, cracking card. Hope they show Wimbledon for you in Dublin too!

For some reason ive got you tube race stuck on my phone slick Seattle race from last week,
I fancy him even more got done at lids just got done at the bend run well to get close if he goes up with out a bump he give will a race

HEADING to shelbourne myself .. lads  do any of you know if theres a p. power shop near the track?..see there giving 5/1 = 10/1 at doncaster tonight, looking forward to seeing IF my anti/post e/w bets on KINGO 16/1 AND FASTAWAY KING 25/1  can progress to the s/finals.

Where are you coming from frank? There is one in Ringsend, if you're coming in from the South go along the coast road and you can't miss it.

From Shelbourne gate turn right and walk down the road to Ringsend, over the bridge past the Ladcrokes and again turn right and the Powers id up there.

MERCI M8.

Slightly off topic so apologies

PF, have you been for a drink in the BATH Pub around the corner from HQ? My mate wants us to hit there for the Cup final next week before we head into the dogs

I think that used to be called Murrays. I've only been in it once (a good few years ago) for 1 drink so couldn't really tell ya much about it. It seems to be jammed with Rugby heads every time there is an Ireland game or Leinster game on now as ye see them all outside on your way in to SPK.

PF says he's struggling to find much value, which says to me it could easily be a feast for favourite backers, which is always a delight on a top-quality card.

Therefore, done a speculative five-fold Vic, Mike, Cain, George and Skies at accumulative odds of 25/1 with Spoilsports.

Think Razl Will and Kingo could be given a race by Seattle and Willyjoe respectively, so left them on the sidelines.

I fancy a whole host of favourites at Wimbledon too and if there are a plethora (is that spelt correctly) of short ones going in both sides of the pond tonight, it could be extremely lucrative

just in from shelbourne ..the run of the night belonged to Slick seattle 32.49, close behind was the surprise Monleek force 32.54, IT LOOKS WIDE OPEN VERY HARD TO CALL.

Good night around seen the 600 results over the moon !
Slick Fastaway trend still in pretty happy tonite will watch in the morning!

Well done Fattie, he finally done it right at boxes. It was a great race, down the back i thought Will was getting to him but heading into the 3rd Seattle drifted mid a bit and Will just coulodn't get by.

Happy enough to get my 2 A/P bets through but wasn't impressed with Kingo at all, he'd want to step up considerably on that if he's to make the final. Pool Hawk on the other hand i was delighted with, i wasn't happy with the draw and as i thought he got his ground taken and had to check wide run up around them but showed good gears up. He'd want to turn the last a bit better though .


Race 7 Betfair Open 600 Semi-Final 10:00 Approx. (600 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : A0)
Trap     Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1     RAZLDAZL GEORGE
Trap 2     TIBETAN SKIES
Trap 3     FASTAWAY KING
Trap 4     KINGO
Trap 5     DYNAMIC TREND
Trap 6     MONLEEK FORCE

Race 8 Betfair Open 600 Semi-Final 10:15 Approx. (600 Yds. Flat)  (Race Grade : A0)
Trap     Greyhound     * View Complete Race Form
Trap 1     LEMON VELVET
Trap 2     ROCKCHASE BULLET
Trap 3     RAZLDAZL WILL
Trap 4     SLICK SEATTLE
Trap 5     POOL HAWK
Trap 6     CROSSFIELD STAR

Slick Seattle was never going to be easy to catch once leading, but Razl Will showed he doesnt have to lead to produce a big run, a shade unlucky.

Monleek Force always led but Dynamic Trend looked unlucky. Kingo seemed to lack a yard of early to me.

Cant really see Rockchase Bullet, led, clear, but still not on the mark, hoisting the trophy now. Smart though Bullet is, think he needs to stay over slightly shorter trips. George not getting runs in races. Crossfield Star big shock.

Glad i plumped for Tibetan Skies ante-post. Trailing after a sluggish break, he showed mental pace, didnt have things his own way but looks set to produce flying times when exiting better

thought monaleek was a one off last week,how wrong cam you be.will ran great race in defeat would bet him to reverse result again as dont think you could rely on slick to repeat

Glad to get my 2 into the simi,s as well PF but your right about  Kingo he wont be winning this year on last nights evidence. i have to say that George will have to improve as well ..i wont be putting my money on him , i got 9.2 on pool hawk last night on betfair but i thought he made a B... X of the last bend. IT LOOKS WIDE OPEN VERY HARD TO CALL.

Some of last night heats in the betfair 600 and english derby 1/round are on You tube.

The 1st semi final looks absolutely wide open to me, would not surprise me at all if any of them won.

Monleek Force still 16/1 outright, the dog is running out of his skin and there was no fluke about either of his victories in the competition so far. Off to add him to Kingo and Pool Hawk

must admit i thought his first win was a flash in the pan, but proved me wrong,16/1 looks a mistake surely

20/1 with 365 , looks a cracking bet

i see boyles are giving 1/4 the odds for the first 2 only..

Seriously 365?? FFS i go in and back it @ 16s, walk out and then check oddschecker on my phone and there is 20s now you owe me a pint for that!!

on with 365  what a price

....... i had a good bet e/w 1st 4 on kingo 16/1 and fastaway 25/1 1st 4... also have a score e/w on Monleek Force 25/1 e/w last week with PP.... THEY are my 3 bets in the 600 PF ..but a pain in my testimonials to see there all in the same s/final.    I have to admit kingo looked tired on sat night and fastaway will need luck in running .

20's all dried up now

Is it me or aint slick big at 8s last weeks been running mightie well even running a bend !
Both super heats

Looks about right to me, if he comes out through the bars like Saturday night it will look big but how many times has he come away like that in his career.

I'd be all over Raz Will to turn the tables on Sat, after that dream start from Slick he should have been away and clear but Will was unreal to get close to him down the back straight.
PF was your line here, will we get slight odds against on Will?

Saturday nights race reminded me of these two greats
http://www.greyhound-data.com/play.htm?video=/video/IE/SPK/2006/SPK-2006-01-28-HT09.flv&name=%8025,000%20JOHN%20J.CASEY%20OPEN%20575%20FINAL

Yeah i'd imagine you'll get odds against Will off course

Razldazl George 11/4
Tibetan Skies 6/4
Fastaway King 6/1
Kingo 6/1
Dynamic Trend 12/1
Monleek Force 4/1

Lemon Velvet 12/1
Rockchase Bullet 5/1
Razldazl Will 10/11
Slick Seattle 3/1
Pool Hawk 5/1
Crossfield Star 20/1


Price are from Spoilsports. Why on earth is Razldazl George and Tibetan Skies so short? George is obviously been priced up on what he has done in the past and not the form he has priduced the last 2 weeks. As for Tibetan Skies i'm shocked he is so short, he is not a 6/3 shot in this race. I think Kingo is a decent price at 6/1 and Monleek Force is the right price at 4/1.

However Dynamic Trend looks absolutely massive to me at 12/1, he may have a tough draw here but the price looks huge to me. I think he is worth a few quid at that price.

*she* *she* *she* *she* not sure how many times i called Dynamic Trend a he there

agree 100% PF, Dynamic Trend  was a little unlucky not to win on sat ..if she gets a run early 12/1 looks tasty..

Not trying to sound harsh, but I think Razldazl George won the worst derby final I've seen, and I'm not even sure he is chasing 100%, maybe that's my pocket talking

Couldn't play T Sky at that price but he is a seriously fast dog when it all falls into place

Out and about today and took the 12/1 with spoils on Dynamic Trend after having to wait with the usual phone calls back to H/Qs, its a tough s/final but i recon 7/1 is the right price about DYN,....... also had a e/w bet on Crossfield Star 20/1 with spoils on the 2nd s/final i thought he ran a blinder last sat he will need luck in the hope that raz will 10/11 [crazy price] and Slick Seattle 3/1 wont come away to quickly..Rockchase Bullet 5/1[no chance]  might do him a favour..

Tibetan skies will possibly be the slowest dog to the bend. I can't possibly see him moving through this field of strong stayers, without major luck.
Dynamic Trend has the 2nd fastest sectional in this field, has the 2nd quickest back straight pace, behind Tibetian skies, and the 2nd fastest time in the race, which is a full 20 spots quicker then Tibetian skies.
Based on these facts, Tibetian should be double the price, and Dynamic half the price.

IM GLAD WE READ FROM THE SAME FORM GUIDE VINNIE.

The only worry with Dynamic Trend is can she clear Kingo as he got up her inside last week at the bend. Also Monleek Force edged in a bit on the run up and could be a worry but sure even at that she was never a 12s shot. She is still massive at 10s. The 3 inside runners are all too short in my opinion.

I wouldn't totally rule out Rockchase Bullet in the 2nd semi final although he doesn't interest me even at 5/1. He has a nice draw here looking guaranteed to lead up Lemon Velvet and inside Razldazl Will who edges off run up. Slick Seattle is the wrong side of Will and i don't think he will clear him and can't see him back running him. I'm not surprised at Will's price, i think you will get slight odds against somewhere but i had him a strong fav too. On the oitside i don't see Crossfield Star leading up Pool Hawk unless he misses it so struggle to see him get a run. However 20s was big.

I wont be in shelbourne on sat night [i will be in London for a wedding ] but it looks to be a great nights racing Win or Lose.

I'd disappear for a couple of hours and head down Wimbledon

NOW THERES A IDEA,

Dynamic Trend NOW 10/1 AND Crossfield Star DOWN TO 16/1 WITH SPOILS,  SEEMS I GOT ON IN TIME.

As i said, Dynamic Trend looked very unlucky previous round but doubt very much she is the class of Razl George or Tibetan Skies, who i dont think will be last early like someone said. This dog can ping and has tremendous pace. Yes, too skinny at 6/4 but cant be against him either, so simply a no play race in my book and just fingers crossed Skies qualifies at least, setting up an 11/2 ante-post payday in the final

On the evidence of the last 2 weeks Tibetan Skies will be last at the bend as the poster below said, he will have to trap much better. On what i've seen the last 2 weeks if Tibetan Skies and Razldazl George don't go up better i could see both do0gs getting knocked out.

i must be going mad somwhere as i liked gizmo tian EW? then again i did back shelbourne geoff and bombolini for the derby, so am probably in need of locking up

Bit of a difference of opinion with the book, PP 5/1 Dynamic Trend

Spoilsports

5/1 seems a bit on the small side P.F..  HES not the best tracker in the world but im very happy with 12/1 with spoils... very hapy getting 20/1 for crossfield only 10/1 with PP for the 2/simi/finals...i reckon Raz Will should be 6/4 insteed of 1/1, I try to get away from the wedding to log into IGB to see the s/finals.

I think she is pretty much the correct price at around that. I'll probably get linched on here for how i priced it but to 100% i had her in at 9/2. On what the top 2 have done the last 2 weeks i just don't fancy them unless they start much better and i could see the inside 3 possibly coming together.

I had Will in at 6/4 to 100% so expected him to be no bigger than 5/4, 11/10 or around that off course.

Yes, the early 12/1 Dynamic Trend did look silly, seeing as she's only that price outright. Still think Tibetan will come wearing his trapping boots a bit more polished this time

Spoilsports still going 10s to go in again or not??

5-4-6 or 5-6-4 would do nicely in that semi PLEASE!!!

I am already on at 12's but am tempted to go in again at 10's. It makes me wonder why they are holding tough, a lot of people i'm sure will have backed her at that price already..

I am already on at 12's but am tempted to go in again at 10's. It makes me wonder why they are holding tough, a lot of people i'm sure will have backed her at that price already..

Think trend been very unlucky and again with this draw just hoping she finds the gaps and gets a better draw in the final!
On the other semi I'm sticking with slick long time since soviet bullet puppy runs!

Nice win frank, with crossfield at 20/1

Last last and last what a way to go out !
Shocking results tonite at shel

Nowt shocking about the results, best dogs on the night won, well done Frank60 with Crossfield.


1. Razldazl George
2. Tibetan Skies
3. Rockchase Bullet
4. Razldazl Will (m)
5. Kingo (m)
6. Crossfield Star (w)


ping those muda facking lids Kingo!!!

Tx Vinnie and P.F. just got in from london to get the good news, also back him e/w at 50/1 before the s/finals to win out. seems he got his own way up front, still have Kingo going for me at 16/1.. have to say he surprised me winning last night after his tired run last week, it looks to be a great final .. fingers crossed x.

Tibetan Skies hasnt been going to the bend with them, but still wouldnt swop him. Overhauling George for 2nd last night took some doing and if slightly closer to the pace in the final, or Kingo doesnt get clear again, looks the most likely winner to me, at a nice 11/2 ante-post. George is my saver. Razl Will was a fraction disappointing in the semis for me. Star continues to surprise but Bullet looks the rag.

For me woodman Tibetan Skies just gives himself too much ground to claw back, always at the back, and its unreal how the comments on the race on IGB say "fast away" he was dead last goin up for gods sake.Hard to see him win and I'd take out my stake from that 11/2 bet.Its pretty much wide open,and no reason why Crossfield cant win again.

The top 2 didn't do each other any favours on the run up on Saturday night and to be honest i can see the same happening again. George edged off ever so slightly while Tibetan wanted to be on the rails and they came together. They'd be better off drawn the opposite way around in my opinion. Again i think both of them are too short.

Razldazl Will didn't break as well last time and to be honest i find it hard to see him leading Rockchase Bullet inside him unless he doesn't come away and Will gets a flier. Added to that he will have Kingo going up well on his other side too. Kingo will win if going around in front in my opinion but can he lead again? He looks a fair price at 5/1. I made Crossfield Star my fav although i didn't have much between them all and he looks a fair price at 4/1. He was brilliant on Saturday night but there must be a worry if he can get to the lead early this time. If he does lead around it's hard to see how anything will back run him doing clocks in the 32.30s.

That leaves Rockchase Bullet who i thought ran awful in the 1st 2 rounds. However i felt he ran a lot better in his semi final and at 10/1 he could be big value. He really stuck to it well when led up in his semi final and i think he has a good chance to lead around in the final and if he does he could win. He hasn't really trapped as well as he can in the competition but he should lead up the inside 2 and off a level break i'd expect him to lead up Will and Kingo too especially been drawn inside them. Will goes up mid to wide so Bullet should have plenty of room run up. He will have to improve again from his semi final run but i got the impression he is going the right way now and i'd expect him to go quicker again and if leading can see him going in the 32.40s which will take a massive run to come from behind that. 


I'd rather Kingo just smashes out and turns the corner in front but i'll play Rockchase Bullet at the price too.

My first instinct was Kingo at the start of the competition, before i knew Tibetan and George were going for it. Razl Will should also be thereabouts with a run, Bullet would benefit from trouble behind and Jet keeps surprising, wide open. I wouldnt be surprised to see a blanket finish really

I just cant make up my mind about the race,obviously i like Kingo or Crossfield to win but i can see problems at the 1st bend which will set it up for one of the inside dogs.. i not going to pick a winner but i will pick 2 who i think wont win, Raz will and Rockchase Bullet... like a good Coward  i will leave it at that.

I'm on Crossfield outright at 65's here and did an each-way double on Crossfield Star @ 16's and Monleek Force @ 9/2 :( 
Wide open final but hopefully Crossfield hits the lids again like he did last week :)

Crossfied was not available at 65s on here so you have done spectacularly well.

Thanks for the advice Jay but got a good saver in George, so gonna let it ride. Wasnt a big bet anyway, most of current kitty for betting going on the Derby

Just checked, 55's and 60's it was DV. He looks to have his chance!

I was just looking at the heats and the runs of Crossfield star and his improvement since finishing 4th in the 1st round to running within .16 of the Late late show track record is unbeliveable .... if he breaks he will take some stopping.

Can't have him. I think he is too short. 50/1 before his semi-final and 4/1 now? He won a poor enough semi where Will didn't come away, i think he will find it much harder with the line up in the final and can't see him leading round.

Hope your wrong D.F.[i backed him at 50/1 e/w]  BUT your right about finding it harder ..bullet and kingo could get to the first bend before him ..i cant see him winning if this happens.

Jesus i hope the track is in better condition come Saturday

Consolation Final

Fastaway King @ 5/1

The best drawn greyhound of the night. Royal Patrol will move off from 2, Tyrur Willyjoe is wide run up so will move off from 3, Pool Hawk also wide run up will move off from 4. It does not leave much margain for error for Monleek Force early and on the run up. Added to that all 3 dogs inside him can go up well to the bend and he is not certain to go around and at 6/4 doesn't look value to me. Fastaway King on the other hand has a brilliant draw. He's not the fastest up but will have the whole inside to himself and can trun handier than usual and if Monleek Force does not turn in front i can see him picking up the others. I think he is too big a price on the draw alone.

Go Tibetan Go!!!

Royal Patrol is a NR in the consolation

Oi Oi Oi Oi Oi

KINGO YOU LITTLE DANCER!!!!!




bingo baby

"Think Kingo could win this if going for it?" Always fatal to change your mind. Think it was 16/1 at the start too. Thought Tibetan a shade unlucky. On prior trial form, i wouldnt have been expecting him to get that far behind and finding trouble coming through. No surprise really, my recent ante-post record has been very unlucky, even saver George couldnt pop up. Hoping to have better luck in the English Derby

Tibetan Skies unlucky??? Seriously Woody not sure what ypu where watching, Kingo didn't come away, Razldazl Will took his ground run up and Kingo was just totally different class last night, it was an exceptional run

Agree 100% P.F....I had a nice e/w bet on Kingo 16/1 at the start,... the fans in greyhound land where well looked after last night with the Skys brilliant Coverage of the english derby and RTE,s nice piece on the early days of Greyhound racing ..pity they showed a front view of the break off in the Betfair 600 [hard to know who led] ... All in all the cream came to the top at H/Qs and across the water [exceeped for MIKE ] ..I look forward to a great nice racing on tuesday for the q/finals.

Who was on with Ger and Ian last night? I didn't get to see it but heard it was good.

Bassanio if you go to the RTE site im sure you will see the recording,, i did,nt want to miss some of the heats on sky so i was jumping from RTE TO SKY..it also showed the greats of the guinness 600 down the years.

PF, think Tibetan unlucky from the respect not at his best in this competition. Showed in the past capable of pinging and leading good 550yds dogs. Okay, maybe a shade more disappointing than unlucky

at the risk of sounding like an after timer, Kingo was underestimated throughout the competition. Last years winner, 2nd only to Definate Opinion in Cesarewitch and back as good as ever this season. 6/1 for the final after winning his semi? Unbelievable!! I was too busy with work to follow this comp closely, especially Saturday, so who's to say if I would have taken 6/1, or 7/1 in his semi for that matter??