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Cosmic Horizon
01 May 12 13:31
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Are there any odds comparison sites which provide the average odds across a range of bookies?
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Report 718 May 1, 2012 4:14 PM BST
I don't think so

Having worked for a bookmaker whose prices appear on an odds comparison website, I can tell you that the prices that you see are not a reflection of the probability of the outcome in the bookmakers opinion

If you fancy that the probability of something happening is 6/1 and the best price out there is 3/1 you would mark up 100/30 or 7/2 to attract custom
Report [x] These checkboxes suck May 1, 2012 5:39 PM BST
Unless its 3.9 on the machine, in which case you go 11/4.
Report askari1 May 1, 2012 6:11 PM BST
[x], exactly. The variation in tissue prices between bookmakers, let alone between serious punters, is huge. The differences in price offered are minuscule, to prevent arbing.

Were there a tote monopoly with a tiny overround, racing might in all probability make more than it does now, as there would be no alternative for winning price-takers / price-makers to stand their opinion.

Notwithstanding the skills of some of their employees (increasingly sidelined), bookmakers' activity would be seen correctly as parasitical, and perhaps a handful of winning punters would be seen as the price of a greater volume of custom.
Report Andriy May 1, 2012 6:24 PM BST
wsn.com will give you the average price in additon to the best one
Report Andriy May 1, 2012 6:26 PM BST
(should have added that it's football only though)
Report Cosmic Horizon May 1, 2012 6:30 PM BST
Yes the average odds provided certainly doesn't reflect the true odds!  They have to make a profit.

Thanks Andriy.
Report namwob22000 May 2, 2012 1:41 PM BST
cosmic:

I use txodds, they provide average odds but also more usefully, they use those odds combined with the overrounds of each bookie to estimate probabilities (which I assume is what you wanted to do with them?).
Report artie May 6, 2012 2:12 PM BST
Has anybody on here actually studied bookmakers early ( overnight) prices.i.e Do horses that they have priced at say 3/1 win somewhere near 25% of the time etc.?
Report askari1 May 7, 2012 1:52 AM BST
I would be interested in a study too. Overnight odds are a lot less accurate than sp odds.
Report artie May 7, 2012 3:16 AM BST
Is that just an impression you have Askari, or have you done a study and compared them ?
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