When 5 Spanish teams are in the Champions League next season

The strongest anyway , spl much more fun to watch

Only by seethings Scots, jealous of the EPL

how do they cope without the sky money ?

they get the Sky money when English clubs by players from Spanish clubs

*buy

Spanish players are cheaper to buy and is a good few in all teams

real buy the best players from wherever they fancy

Most teams have plenty spanish though not the case in england

scotland is beginning to get better now that young players get the chance and not some unknown foreigner

               

If loserpool were in the euRopey league and won the final tonight then wouldnt that mean England have 5 teams in the Champions league next season???

if sevilla win, then aren't Valencia put in the Europa league ????

No 5 teams now

sevilla would have had reserves out at weekend if the case

didn't know you were allowed 5 teams after the Liverpool fiasco

5 teams since they guaranteed a place for Europa winners

sevilla have been rotating since january so no need to put the reserves out.

oh and you certainly dont want to let your feirce local rivals beat you .

was at that fixture last season and it kicked off in town

Top half of their league is almost undoubtedly the strongest in Europe. Bottom half, bar one or two maybe, seem championship standard. So still not convinced its overall the "best league in the world".

The real question is how on earth did Sevilla finish fifth by having the turmoil of having to play Thursdays-Sundays every week. I mean, apparently, it's simply not possible.

bored of the argument as to which is the best league...I know which one I will be watching more of next season though, and it doesn't include Bournemouth, Watford and Norwich

I'm pretty sure Bournemouth, Watford and Norwich won't regularly be on the end of park football scores against the best teams unlike the bottom sides in La Liga.

Crixus are you suggesting the bottom half of the Premier League is any good?

Sevilla are shrewd with their rotation their 2nd string are as good as their first. They have been playing 60/40 minutes in the league and cup.

Emery had no hesitation replacing Reyes and Bacca in today's match.

I would comment back but I have no fecking idea what "regularly be on the end of park football scores" means. Not even arsed myself what's considered the "best league" but hate how the argument is always so transparently biased and tedious, if it was so clear cut then why the need for the both reasoning shown above.

E.g. "Won't be watching the league with Bournemouth, Watford and Norwich next year." But bet you loved watching the league with Eibar, Almeria and Córdoba in It this year though?

I certainly hold the opinion they are significantly stronger than La Ligas yes.

Córdoba were dodgy I'll give you that Eibar and Almeria weren't that bad....I doubt they'd be afraid of QPR.

Are you aware of the relative budgets this teams play on compared the their EPL counterparts? The lower teams in the EPL have what? 20 x the budget/expenditure of the cash of those La Liga clubs.

It boils down to the lack of home-grown players in England. In Spain there and endless decent young players....the EPL has to look overseas and pay a massive premium, often to La Liga clubs.

I was aware there was a large budget discrepancy between the two, didn't know it was quite that large, but if anything this is part of the reason I hold the opinion that the bottom half of the premier league table is much stronger than theirs, general rule more money the increased likelihood of better players, I'd hazard a guess the amount of internationals is much higher in the prem bottom league sides than theirs but this is a complete guess. They are certainly to be commended for what they do with such relatively tiny budgets.

Crixus that reply was to themover and was referring to the likes of Granada, Cordoba and Deportivo being beaten 9-1, 8-0 at home and 8-2 at home respectively by one of the top 2 this season.

Ah right I see, makes sense now. Sorry completely grabbed the wrong end of the stick, agree 100% with what you're saying there.

Posted by Marcce 27 May 15 22:39 
I'm pretty sure Bournemouth, Watford and Norwich won't regularly be on the end of park football scores against the best teams unlike the bottom sides in La Liga.

Let these teams go to the Nou Camp and see how many they will concede.  Barca & Real would HAMMER those teams as well.

May 27, 2015 -- 11:10PM, Crixus wrote:

I was aware there was a large budget discrepancy between the two, didn't know it was quite that large, but if anything this is part of the reason I hold the opinion that the bottom half of the premier league table is much stronger than theirs, general rule more money the increased likelihood of better players, I'd hazard a guess the amount of internationals is much higher in the prem bottom league sides than theirs but this is a complete guess. They are certainly to be commended for what they do with such relatively tiny budgets.

Next year, the 20 Premier League clubs will all be among the top 30 richest football clubs in the world.

Cordoba were indeed the worst team in La Liga this season. They didn't however get battered as much as some might think (other than the two defeats against the likely European Champions) :

25 Aug    Real Madrid    2-0    Cordoba
21 Sep    Cordoba            1-3    FC Sevilla
25 Sep    Valencia    3-0    Cordoba
1 Nov    Atletico Mad.    4-2    Cordoba
30 Nov    Cordoba            0-2    Villarreal
6 Dec    Athletic Bil.    0-1    Cordoba
20 Dec    FC Barcelona    5-0    Cordoba
24 Jan    Cordoba            1-2    Real Madrid
14 Feb    FC Sevilla    3-0    Cordoba
21 Feb    Cordoba     1-2    Valencia
4 Apr    Cordoba            0-2    Atletico Mad.
19 Apr    Villarreal    0-0    Cordoba   
24 Apr    Cordoba            0-1    Athletic Bil.
2 May    Cordoba            0-8    FC Barcelona

would QPR really have faired much better?

in those matches of course they are playing the current European Champions, the likely new European Champions, the current Europa League double winners, another Champions League finalist in Atletico, and a resurgent Valenicia team, whereas QPR well had to play Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool who between them had a Capitol One Cup, a Premier League title and an FA Cup

May 27, 2015 -- 11:13PM, Marcce wrote:

Crixus that reply was to themover and was referring to the likes of Granada, Cordoba and Deportivo being beaten 9-1, 8-0 at home and 8-2 at home respectively by one of the top 2 this season.

As if Barca/Real would not be putting those numbers past lower league EPL teams.

If Southampton can have an 8-0 and a 6-1 vs lower league EPL teams I am sure Barca could manage.

Barca totally dominated Man City, PSG and Bayern creating loads of chances against all of them bottom EPL teams would be in for some proper hammerings.

on another day man city would have conceded double figures in the camp nou this season. certainly 6-0 would have been more realistic than 1-0 on the balance of play

Is this a let's all laugh at England thread?

I'm in

QPR would have lost 12-0 to 15-0 in the Nou Camp or the Bernabeu.

As per usual the La Liga groupies are completely missing the point.

It isn't a case of hypothetically predicting what Barca would do to the likes of QPR. It is a case that them and Real are regularly doing that to the weaker teams in their league. Not just this season but most seasons it's a case of is it going to be 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 when they play them?

The La Liga groupies get off on it but there is just nothing exciting about Real and Barca playing upwards of 20 games a season that are totally uncompetitive. A bit like Djokovic in tennis. Unquestionably the best player in the world but 80% of the matches he plays are deadly dull because there's no doubt about what the outcome will be.

Anyway listen to a man who knows.

Jose Mourinho insists it would be impossible for Barcelona and Real Madrid to dominate English football in the way they do in Spain.

Spanish football’s big two have won ten of the past 11 La Liga titles, with Atletico Madrid’s victory last season a rare blip in their supremacy.

But Mourinho, who won La Liga in 2011-12 with Real Madrid, claims the duo would find life very different in England.

“I was in Spain, but I didn’t enjoy,” he told Alan Brazil in an exclusive interview for Sports Breakfast.

“I didn’t enjoy it because I won a title with a record in Spain with 100 points and 121 goals, but we played only three or four matches all season.

“I lost a title with 92 points, but again we played only four or five matches in the season.

“You feel the pressure that you have to win every match because if you don’t you are not champions. You have to win and win and win. But it is a big, big gap between the giants and the others.

“In matches in other countries you can win matches when you are resting. In Spain and in Italy, I won lots of matches resting. Where you can think, ‘what next’. Where you can think which European game is coming, where you can rest players.

“This season I rested a few players against Bradford and I lost against Bradford. And that is English football. You are winning 2-0 and if you concede a goal you know you are going to have hell for the last few minutes and you might draw 2-2 and lose two points.

“This is the reality of the Premier League. You have no time. It’s not just about the number of matches, it’s the intensity. And it’s not just physical intensity, you feel the intensity mentally.

“I think the difference between the two leagues [Premier League and La Liga] is huge. Would they [Barcelona or Real Madrid] win the Premier League? Maybe yes. Maybe not.”


Read more at http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-real-madrid-and-barcelona-would-not-...

Marcce     28 May 15 12:29 
As per usual the La Liga groupies are completely missing the point.

It isn't a case of hypothetically predicting what Barca would do to the likes of QPR.

Yet you go on to quote Mourinho saying how they'd hypothetically do.

it's safe to say that the top 6 of la liga is better than the top 6 of the EPL  and at a guess i'd suggest the bottom 6 of La Liga is slightly weaker than the  bottom 6 of EPL . With maybe an even match in mid table.

it has to logically work that way - the money is Spain is more at the top end

i'd certainly put the Championship slightly ahead of Spain 2nd tier .

mainly because of the population difference of the countries  and parachute payments

Marcee was doing quite well until he quoted the nutjob Mourinho

I would like you to some of his comments made in 2012 :

Calling Real Madrid and Barcelona "the two best teams in the world," Mourinho said La Liga was now better than England's Premier League — where he led Chelsea to consecutive league titles in 2005 and 2006.

"The league is very, very strong," he said of Spain. "A beautiful league, because the teams are very technical, and that's the reason I'm in Spain, because I want to be where the best league is."

Funny how he changes his tune depending on where he is

Nope was still saying similar in Spain.

Real Madrid boss Jose Mourinho is reluctant to compare the Spanish Liga with the Premier League.

Mourinho is back in England for tonight's Champions League tie at Manchester City.

He said: “La Liga is la Liga and the Premier League is the Premier League. They have different cultures. The Spanish league has three teams who are a fair way ahead of the others, but in England it is a more competitive league. I have been lucky enough in my career to be in all the important footballing countries and I have improved as a coach.

"After so much experience it is important to sit down and evaluate what you have been through to see where you are happiest."

Juliano Belletti agrees.

The Premier League didn't have a single representative in this week's Champions League quarter-finals, but former Chelsea and Barcelona full-back Juliano Belletti believes the division is better than La Liga.

Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester City were all knocked out of the competition in the last-16, leading to suggestions England's top flight is at its weakest in recent years.

However, one man who had the experience of playing in both England and Spain believes there is a greater spread of quality in the Premier League, with La Liga revolving around Barcelona and Real Madrid.

“You have more joy playing in the Premier League. It is more fun for the player,” Belletti told Goal at Heineken's #ChampionTheMatch event in Rio de Janeiro.

“La Liga is about Barcelona or Real Madrid, and if it is a normal day you win every match. Of course difficulties exist, but it’s always Barca and Madrid.
“In England the smallest sides have more chances to take points from the big sides. There is a better environment in the stadiums, it’s more fun. In England the atmosphere is more attractive compared to Spain. If I had to choose between them, I’d choose England.”

Don't think anyone could disagree with what they say to be honest. I'd say themover certainly can't seeing as Man City only managed to win 2 of their 6 matches against the relegated sides this season

He said: “La Liga is la Liga and the Premier League is the Premier League. They have different cultures. The Spanish league has three teams who are a fair way ahead of the others, but in England there are four teams who are a fair way ahead of the others.

We will see how many spanish sides make last 16 in cl next season compared to english clubs

will be 5 spanish

last 8 could be full of them also

I'm really not sure what relevance the CL performance has here.

English sides haven't done well in the competition over the past 2 or 3 years but leading up to then there was at least one English side in 7 of the previous 8 finals.

Since then Chelsea have gone through a bit of a transition period as have United. Wenger has never had a scooby in the CL and City will always struggle as long as they have Yaya strolling around in their midfield.

Will English sides continue to struggle forever more in the competition? History tends to suggest not but we'll see.

sevilla seem to have targeted this cup, perhaps they would challenge  for third in spain if
they did not.

id love to see a merged european league, with top 20 teams,

the same number of clubs have won the Premier League in the last 10 years as clubs that have won La Liga - 3.

are we saying La Liga is a better league or are we saying La Liga has a greater number of quality teams ?

la liga is a better league and has more quality teams.

May 28, 2015 -- 8:38PM, donny osmond wrote:

sevilla seem to have targeted this cup, perhaps they would challenge  for third in spain if they did not. id love to see a merged european league, with top 20 teams,

Sevilla didnt target the Europa League any more than the English teams.

They rotated the players until latter stages.

For example Bacca only started half the games before the final and played 90 mins once.

Till EPL has jose boringo,pulis,LVG,big sam and managers of  swansea ,southampton and sunderland its going to be boring EPL