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http://xfactor.itv.com/_uploads/userassets/files/vote2010.pdf

1d 12%

It's about 600 000 votes tho!

lol come on Cider.

If she'd had a good song yesterday she may have snatched it.

Not a clear winner as everyone expected then.

That should be 20% 1d when they went out.
It's a rather confusing table

Cripes, I was right to keep the Becca green

Indeed, if she'd done Dylan yesterday it could have been hers

shouldn't there be a final freeze for the last two?

13% behind at the 1st freeze, down to 7% at the 2nd and 6 at the line.
Even a better winners song may have got her over the line.

Imagine nearly all the votes were cast before the final two sang one last time.

I would say both Matt and Rebecca kept their best performances till the end. Matt was really good but i thought Rebacca was brilliant with her final song.

I think some people might have changed from Matt to Rebacca had there been more time to vote after they both gave their last performances.

Cardle's percentages were fairly consistent each week. Suggest his fan base was very loyal and big from the start. Whereas Rebecca's percentages were growing every week. Another week contest would have been interesting.

If Matt hadn't have won with that polling it would have been a travesty.

tbf Bex did better than I expected in the final, but I'm sure you'll agree I wasn't far off regarding her polling through the series Her price was miles off.

a 'wicked game' or dylan from Becca tonight would've helped

Very very close between Waggy and Paije on Paije's exit week

Don't agree Cider; if she had nailed it last 2 weeks she'd have won it imo.

Blimey see week 8...any bar matt could have gone out.

Mary topped poll week 1..which leak got that right...othh?

People were still voting for Cher right up to the final count it seems, even though she was out.

Cher bottom week 9

cost me a packet the robbing gits

Think Matt's voice going lost him a lot of votes mind.

Week 9 Mary 3.5% ahead of Cher and a mere 2.4% behind 1D.

FFS!

Cowell obv afraid she may have leapfrogged his boys with another regional push!

Week 9 as we suspected Mary not bottom so they switched to judges...caught red handed [>o]

Matt wins by 5.98 % the rebecca camp were right to say she was in with a real shot...not bad for marmite

cider - Alexandra had a similar progression. She was being stuffed early on too.

I agree though GB2. The voice going will have knocked his vote a little.

Keeping the votes for 3rd and 4th is distorting the figures somewhat also

Aren't the final figures misleading for 1D and Cher though? They got 18.54% and 15.83% of the original vote.

discounting the eliminated contestants I make it: Matt 53.6%, Rebecca 46.4%

What about Katies % when she was in the botoom two.

Was she bottom on the times it went to deadlock as most people suspected.

Well, the Big Brother forum is still running after 4 months it ended.

do they actually say on the program that votes already cast still count when they lose a contestant.

I meant was Katie bottom on the times the judges saved her from deadlock.

The way they have presented the figures someone with better maths skills than me should be able to have a stab at how the voting was distributed yesterday / today first freeze / today second freeze?

Much closer than I would have guessed. Clearly Becca won Sunday

1D backers never in with a shout

Adjusted stats from this weekend...
Last four: Matt 39.1%, Rebecca 25.7%, OD 18.5%, Cher 15.8%
Last three: Matt 42.6%, Rebecca 35.1%, OD 22.2%
Last two: Matt 53.6%, Rebecca 46.4%

discounting the eliminated contestants I make it: Matt 53.6%, Rebecca 46.4%

3.7% victory

She was smashing twitter after sweet dreams. That looks like when she was piling on the votes. It then levelled off after the winners songs.

She just needed a good song yesterday too and it would have been a coin toss

You were right othh about 1D hovering around the 10-12% mark till the latter stages.

Huge lesson learnt about the need to capture the middle england vote. Cher with stay still couldn't crack 20%.

Katies vote was up and down like a whoore's draws.  When we have time be interesting to calculate the "bounce" factor to come up with a mathematical formula (well I can dream!).  Do we have these from previous years...if so if anyone posts them I will do some number crunching re that.

The figures prove the integrity of the vote once again.

OD hovering around 3.00 minutes before they were eliminated by a country mile.

Wagner trading at his lowest the week before he went, despite never being more than about 1% above the sing off.

Etc etc - thank god because if there were live leaks then the markets would be finished.

(Before someone corrects me, I know OTHH was spot on, but the market didnt believe him so that doesnt count )

Asparagus Man: presuming no more votes were cast for Cher after she went out, then for every 1000 votes cast when the first freeze came in, there were 2375 at the second freeze and 3883 at the final closing.

So by my flimsy maths, 25.7% of final votes weer cast up to the first freeze, a further 35.5% overnight and up to tonight's freeze, and then an astonishing 38.8% of votes came in when there were just two acts left.

Using the OD figures backs that up - 38% of total votes on the final were cast in the last half hour of voting. Worth remembering for next year!

That's fascinating but not surprising othh. I suspect most people vote only once or twice at most and so leave till they have all the info they need to make an informed choice.

Screw just confirms Golden Rule No 2 "There are no insiders wading in on BF".  So much for all the 1D/Beccy "inside" info

OTHH, many thanks for your spot info mate

*spot on

Thanks for that othh - certainly very interesting to consider on that basis!

Exactly GB - today Rebecca drifted like a barge, all the way out to 9.whatever...when in actual fact between shows she was closing the gap on Matt and pulling clear of OD. Wonder how many laid Rebecca/backed OD this afternoon because they thought someone knew something?

Great work OTHH.

Sorry, not necessarily closing/pulling away since we dont have pre-Sunday show stats...but you get my drift. Comfortably in 2nd and not a million miles from Matt.

grrrrrrrr Cher bottom vs Paige

Percentage wise it closed alot from lastnight..

At the first freeze:

Matt 60.8%
Rebecca 39.2%

to

Matt 53.6%
Rebecca 46.4%

Dancing Brave...my all time favoutite horse..Rebecca nooooooooooo..Biffa I hate you like I still hate Starkey

Oh and brilliant maths othh...no idea how you work it out but I'm cutting and pasting your post till next year [;)]

one last thing. We learned a couple of years ago that half the votes for the series were cast in the final. If that's true this year, around 7.7m votes came in this weekend, meaning Matt's lead over Rebecca was 556,000 in the end.

cheers othh, fantastic stuff

And with that, it's time for a glass of red (which is better than a screen full of red any day of the week).

As ever, well done to the winners, tough luck to the rest, and I'll no doubt see you around here next year sometime.

All the best - and may all your Christmases be green.

OTHH

all the best OTHH, have a good xmas, see you next year

Hopefully, Laddies were 2-1 for under 10 million today.

Simon with his black suit and open shirt @2-1 was a steal

happy xmas othh & thx

OTHH

Smashing stuff, well said.

Lou x

There were a few bits of information re the votes..I posted them on here somewhere. One was that £8m gets spent on calls in the final which would be about 16m votes (seems high) but something else I read might have contradicted this.

Yes, tyvm OTHH.
DJR - happy man no doubt!?! [;)] WP sir!

all the best OTHH

Happy Christmas & a MERRY NEW YEAR

cheers NXRBL

I'm proud that i stuck by my initial Matt / Reb bets throughout and didn't lay a penny, even when One D were doing my nut and making me think twice.

It deffo pays to stick by your instincts and to listen to certain specials experts on here

alfie

Another good lad.

Lou x

big vote transference from Cher to Rebecca.

Cheryl having two acts was a major handicap for Rebecca imo.

The OD vote split equally.

Twitter is very useful for that "or" thing to try to spot where transference will take place. fll probably factors this in already.

We can agree there are no insiders betting, knowing how the polling was going, BUT there were people in the know regarding the Mary/Cher sing-off, as we all pretty much guessed Cher would be bottom yet Mary's price for elimination kept shortening and shortening.

excellent work as ever OTHH, much appreciated as always

This is borne out by the experience in our house last night.

The phone lines for Rebecca were jammed rock solid from the moment she sang 'Sweet Dreams' to the first vote freeze.  You simply couldn't get through.  The same wasn't true for the other acts (I checked).

I thought that she knocked it out of the park last night with both songs - but it was too late to have the necessary impact.  The damage was done on Saturday night, with a weak opener and a poor duet.

Definitely right to keep both Matt and Rebecca on side in the outrights and forecasts.  Could (and probably should) have been even closer than it was.

Anecdotally the people I have spoken to all thought that Rebecca performed best last night.  Rebecca backers can take heart from the fact that she finally showed her true potential, albeit at the eleventh hour.

Even in our household (where Matt was my biggest green by far) we all ultimately wanted Rebecca to win.

There were no contenders this year to capture the floating voters. There were no act that could go from 'i'm not sure I like this act' to 'this act is actually pretty good'. Yes you could say Wagner but again there were just as much haters.

All the acts were either you like or dislike, no middle ground. Cardle played it safe. He didn't give anything to allow his likers to suddenly reverse back to vote another. He was the best of a lot of bad bunch, no other option.

Rebecca certainly had some momentum but it was just too slow. Her reputation for stillness may have affected that rise.

Next year I hope they get rid of all those novelty or no hoper acts. Those everyone knows has no chance. But I reckon they will never do that becasue the show need those act to generate the entertainment factor.

Hence the competition will really be contested amongst 2-3 acts.

Amazing, today most people I speak to wanted Rebecca to win.  Why didn't she?

The Matt voters more committed perhaps

How many people do you speak to in a  day GB?  You sound like a roving reporter. 

I think it was a classic case of supporting the underdog - but ultimately she had too much ground to make up and made her run too late...

To take a prophetic line from a thread last week, maybe Rebecca was Zenyatta after all!

if Rebecca could have danced like Zenyatta then it might have been a different story

Zenyatta

In my office today it was the same GB - any X Factor chat revolved around people realising they loved Rebecca a little too late.

Of course my contribution to the convo was "Oh that was last night was it? I dont watch that sh*te"

people realising they loved Rebecca a little too late

Yep, she came with a real strong late run after being quiet early on (well down in 5th place in week 4). A definite 'grower' with the voters - another furlong (or even just one more belting ballad!) and she would've taken Matt on the line.

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Amazing, today most people I speak to wanted Rebecca to win.  Why didn't she?

The Matt voters more committed perhaps

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How many people do you speak to in a  day GB?  You sound like a roving reporter.

Lads, any idea will the X Factor section of the forum remain up for a while?
Some cracking info to pull together and make use of in future. Just don't have the time for a few days.
The BB11 one is up an age but probably for prosterity reasons.

*posterity.... maybe even *prosperity in a lot of cases [;)]

about 3

Days or weeks GB? Thx