Rebecca Ferguson 14s Matt Cardle 12s

Yes I'm on those two too.

Rebecca is the only solo artist I've considered backing so far. Not gone in yet but I might do soon.

You should do it soon Benjy. She was 15 at VC, SJ this morning and I think 13 everywhere else, so she's shortening (at the moment anyway).

I agree Henry 14's is big she looks the one getting the help from prods this year
rumours that a sobby story in tmrws papers re rebecca

Yes aj, but neither her price nor Matt's are massive. I'm on them both because the pantomime loves transformation, and of course they've got excellent voices.

I think Cowell had her singing to the floor, the judges house will have her dealing with her issues and gaining confidence blah blah, and then the first live show will have her confident and hair down (although even in a bun she is very beautiful).

Same with Matt - scruffy, unshaven, "I'm a bum" - I think they'll scrub him up, and I hope he loses the cap.

(Same with Katie - rat's nest hairstyle, scatty - but, unlike Katie, Rebecca and Matt tick all boxes so far).

always good to check out what these acts have actualy done rather
than what they have been (ahem) told to do at audition,
you make a good point about the makeovers, greatly underestimated imo the influence this has
on the public, the wrong makeover has ruined many a potential good un before they have even sung

obvious potential losers in the makeover stakes this year could be the 'new' boyband
Im sure they would get the girlband spot on this year so dont expect harlets outfits for them etc

wasn't the bun a hair piece?

wasn't the bun a hair piece?

Maybe best to leave it as a bun wig if she hasn't much hair to play with. She is genuinely pretty (unlike Leona or Alexandra) and the sob story bullsh1t may stave off female jealousy.

Rebecca 5.3 2f  Matt 4.5 f

Anyone got a convincing reason why the winner won't be one of these two?

I'm on John Adeleye too @ 30 btw, just to be sure

at some point they will have to sing an up tempo song.....they haven't as yet....if/when gamu reappears....she's already shown she is at ease regardless....that's the danger with those two....perhaps.

Strange that someone not even in the 12 is the biggest danger duffy, but I agree - Gamu's a class act and will do v well if she gets in.

I'm still convinced all this 'wildcard' stuff is for Gamu's benefit - that there were doubts about her eligibility at the time of the judges' houses recordings. Can't see any other reason Katie would've got through ahead of her tbh.

Fairplay to you Deej ! Good Call
this is one thread that you can't be accused of aftertiming ... I wanted to back 1 direction til i saw the price ..theres no way I'm tieing up dough for 12 weeks at these kinda prices...wont be surprised to see them go close thoughcould be the danger to your 2
  was surprised to see gamu not make it through , think she's got a great voice.
GL with ur bets [;)]

Jimbo bob is on the money with his comments

http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/x-factor/
matt-cardle-makes-x-factor-final-12/comment-page-1/#comment-349112

Good stuff DJ

good tips fella, you can trade them off now

Yep, excellent work dj.

can't remember when I got on - I can check though.  I could only get 14/1 and 9/1.

Forget the braggers, the attention seekers, those who seek to pat themselves on the back every day and defend their selections come what may.

This is the thread of the series.

Seriously well done Sir.


And why haven't you ttt'd this ;)

that's 14/1 Matt and 9/1 Rebecca actually.

little crackers like this is what the forum is all about.

c'mon deej, you're around - show your face in these parts

cheers squares, well done yourself

I did ttt when the first betfair market opened. Maybe I was too embarrassed by my John Adeleye bet to ttt again

well done Sir

Great calls. Forum award of John Adeleye's hat on its way shortly.

Good call,

1.01 Lou is seething

The obvious favourites. Would be worth applauding if you could get a serious bet on at these prices but alas you can't so hats off for the easy selections.

would you like the lottery numbers too ?

The obvious favourites. Would be worth applauding if you could get a serious bet on at these prices but alas you can't so hats off for the easy selections.

It's always obvious after the event isn't it? At the time they were nowhere near favourites - Cher, Gamu, Aiden, 1D/Liam were all ahead of them.

but were they value..

evidently not

no this is great stuff and worth applauding, there were lots of alternatives at this point

To quote the god that will always be Mr David Coleman -"remarkable". Unfortunately Deejay, I missed your first post and went all-in on John Adeleye.

Ah! Well.

Their prices, if you wanted an actual bet on them, were 5 and 5, so slight odds against, like Barca last night, except you only had to wait 90 minutes opposed to 3 months for the payout. Maybe we should post congratulatory threads to all Barca backers yesterday or maybe that would just be moronic.

A most excellent dutch, Deejayric.
Hope you've at least banked your Matt profit (going by the old IDaBoss rule from the 'pre-Lou' days).

RMB@ "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend" Who Shot Liberty Valance [;)]

Bosh...

you b@rsteward - I was looking for this

superb work Deej

Blinding stuff gents! WP!

and when looking through my accounts recently, realised I have lied on here.  It was 12/1 Rebecca.

amazing could have got 8'ish today on rebecca

what a shout !!

WD

great call

Where is the great man? Surely a speech is in order?

deej hiding his light under his wotsit

dan

Cheers all, well done all big-price early doors Matt / Reb backers.

And well done all layers of One D at 2.94 or whatever stupid price they went tonight

vn

shame about the John back

deejayric

Fabulous stuff.  Well done it doesn't get better than that.

Stuff of legends - astonishing call deejaric!

Not all that great shakes deej, you should have tipped the forecast....

Cracking stuff, wish I'd taken note.

Put off backing ante post by some blunders last year, shame..    Great stuff djr

Still, I had some Waggy 200s 

Blimey - hadn't seen this thread until today.  Nice one deejay - no wonder you were pleased!  You had it all nicely covered...

Best price I had on Matt and Rebecca was 9/2 and 8s respectively.  Obviously a late bandwagon jumper compared to you!

Don\'t think i backed rebecca until feeling good definitely going to pay more attention to the early stages next year.

deejatric, first rate tipping my son, hope it was very profitable

deejayric i mean

Ashley, from my experience it's important to watch XF right from the start - I felt Matt and Reb were possible contenders as soon as their backgrounds, personalities, hard-luck 'battling' life-stories etc. were introduced and before they'd even sung. All that was missing was the voice.

Obviously the voice is really important - I backed Stace last year based on personality and back-story, but in the end her voice just wasn't strong enough. Luckily this year, as soon as Matt and Reb sang I felt they were much more the complete package.

IMO the hardcore XF voters cement their favourite acts right from the very first audition shows (Leon being another case in point). It deffo pays to watch them and go with your instincts.

Anyway, cheers again y'all for the kind words

Well done again deejay - and I have to echo your sentiments that all the clues that you need are in those early audition shows.  You can name virtually all of the acts who make it through to judges house and probably 80% of the final line up purely by the editing, the back stories, the contestants that repeatedly appear in highlight / synopsis packages.  It's all blindingly obvious to those familiar with how XF works...

Yes, you definitely do still need the voice and the talent, but normally even this criteria narrows it down to just five or six possibles.  I had it down to four this year before judge's house - three of whom made the final (just Aiden let me down).  So it's not rocket science.  It pays to get in early...

Totally. And knowing how XF works helps massively with the eliminations too - the regulars on here were totally on the money every week, while the tourists backing Katie at 1.2 left shouting 'fix'...

Absolutely VINTAGE post, deejay... bravo!

And well done all who were on Matt early doors.