https://community.betfair.com/u.s._horse_racing/go/thread/view/94202/25513781/trappe-shothaskelltrappe shot at 4-1 with laddies for haskell is an amazing bet...here's why1. will go off favored in american tote at odds of 8-5 to 2-1, making 4-1 a generous overlay2. simply faster than mutts who competed in triple crown races based on beyers,https://community.betfair.com/u.s._horse_racing/go/thread/view/94202/25513781/trappe-shothaskell?post_id=459956405#459956405sorry mark, too busy bettingyes, I saw him but I have mixed feelings. One the one hand I think these are a different type than what he's been facing in the past and MP is not an easy guy to improve from, and on the other I have gotten used to BaSun, 01 Aug 2010 17:23:41 -0500https://community.betfair.com/u.s._horse_racing/go/thread/view/94202/25513781/trappe-shothaskell?post_id=459954713#459954713tc: on a completely different note, did you see that El Brujo, who won some good money for me at Woodbine and Keeneland in the past for Malcolm Pierce, is running in the Bing Crosby today under the tutelage of Bobby B? Pierce a good horseman, I knoSun, 01 Aug 2010 17:11:00 -0500https://community.betfair.com/u.s._horse_racing/go/thread/view/94202/25513781/trappe-shothaskell?post_id=459954005#459954005TC: Trappe shot a very good horse who learned a lot today. Those 108 seconds were enough to tell me he will never be in L at L class, I think, as he looks like he has matured very well the past few months. (so rare for a 2yo like he was) L at L comSun, 01 Aug 2010 17:04:37 -0500https://community.betfair.com/u.s._horse_racing/go/thread/view/94202/25513781/trappe-shothaskell?post_id=459952613#459952613SS at 11/1 opening odds told you all you needed to knowTS picked up pieces to finish second and the 5/2 on it looks like a joke now AND WILL BE OVERBET next out as wellLaL super impressive today to lead the 3 year old divisionBring on the TraversSun, 01 Aug 2010 16:54:35 -0500https://community.betfair.com/u.s._horse_racing/go/thread/view/94202/25513781/trappe-shothaskell?post_id=459952385#459952385good that one of the 3yos finally stepped up; lookin a class act but the rest looked much of a muchness.Sun, 01 Aug 2010 16:52:49 -0500https://community.betfair.com/u.s._horse_racing/go/thread/view/94202/25513781/trappe-shothaskell?post_id=459951765#459951765oh well.. small profit. Big lay of SS and small lay of IceBox covered my mistake on Trappe Shot. 2nd, but looks like L at L is getting better and better.... What a colt!Sun, 01 Aug 2010 16:48:11 -0500https://community.betfair.com/u.s._horse_racing/go/thread/view/94202/25513781/trappe-shothaskell?post_id=459949229#459949229I see your point re: form references, Darren. But, I find that a difficult thing to put any faith in...I mean, we all know horses are different every time they run. I mean, RVW was within a couple lengths of Sea the Stars (as was Mastercraftsman) lSun, 01 Aug 2010 16:29:17 -0500https://community.betfair.com/u.s._horse_racing/go/thread/view/94202/25513781/trappe-shothaskell?post_id=459948709#459948709watched his last run already, won easily, but i punt from a form perspective; he was 21/2 to the good over nacho friend, getting 2lb, and that one had previously been 13/4 behind afleet again, when geeting 6lb.take your point that this is his chanceSun, 01 Aug 2010 16:24:54 -0500https://community.betfair.com/u.s._horse_racing/go/thread/view/94202/25513781/trappe-shothaskell?post_id=459948309#459948309Darren - the key is the find the big horse BEFORE they prove it....not after.Whats he beaten? Well....I could say the same about Super Saver and L at L - between them they usually get 95-99 Speed Figures.....certainly can't be much behind THEMSun, 01 Aug 2010 16:21:25 -0500https://community.betfair.com/u.s._horse_racing/go/thread/view/94202/25513781/trappe-shothaskell?post_id=459947489#459947489cannot understand the hype re trappe shot. what's he ever beaten?stronger stayers with stronger form in opposition.find his price staggering.Sun, 01 Aug 2010 16:15:40 -0500