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melv
07 Jun 10 06:11
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Unless you have already sold one at current prices or you are basically doing a swap.

Cameron is preparing the nation for the usual Tory slash and burn approach. Spending power will be massively reduced and there will be no money to buy houses.

He is goiog to hit us all hard now while the memory of Gordon is still fresh, vivid and ripe for all the blame. Also Cleggys head is still spinning from al the fame and status and he will go along with everything his boss wants.

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By:
Lori
When: 07 Jun 10 08:59
Not many people can afford to buy a house anyway thanks to the previous government, so the advice is a bit redundant.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 07 Jun 10 10:04
UK as Bankrupt as Greece i heard earlier ..

Maybe it's time to leave .. Greece is hotter[:(]
By:
Mrben
When: 07 Jun 10 10:25
redundant melv/subversion.
By:
melv
When: 07 Jun 10 17:10
Might as well be on my pay.
By:
subversion
When: 07 Jun 10 20:09
keep trying MrBean.

you bullish or bearish on China today? or haven't you flipped the coin yet? Laugh
By:
Mrben
When: 08 Jun 10 03:18
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh melv/subversion .Its like shooting fish in a barrel.The super sensitive subversion just can't help himself.
Please stand by for me to push your buttons[:)]
By:
melv
When: 08 Jun 10 06:39
Deficit reduction =cuts=unemployment= house price falls.

Deficit reduction =cuts= less spending =unemployment= house price falls.

Unemployment =less spending=more unemployment=house price falls.

House price falls = confidence falls=house price plummet.
By:
Mrben
When: 08 Jun 10 07:55
you would have trouble working out what day it is melv/subversion.No credibility here..
By:
melv
When: 08 Jun 10 07:59
Its Tuesday.Shocked
By:
chisel
When: 08 Jun 10 10:00
Melv

The policy of spending cuts etc is going to keep inflation under control, which equals low interest rates and equals a stable housing market.

If you get a new mortgage now, I would be considering a 5 year Fixed rate. The rates are falling dramatically
By:
chisel
When: 08 Jun 10 10:01
Mr B

Are you suggesting Melv and Sub are one and the same?
By:
melv
When: 08 Jun 10 14:04
I will nominate Chiz for a medal if house prices remon stable for the next three years.

I just glanced at the Independants analysis of the scale of the cuts. OH fk. its v. bad. Had to stop reading.

House prices will totally collapse. The value of houses will be the least of our worries.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 08 Jun 10 14:56
hmm ..

I wondered why Homes under the Hammer stopped broadcasting [:(]
By:
Lori
When: 08 Jun 10 15:38
House prices will totally collapse.

I'm praying you're right. I've saved money for years to buy a house with and have never been able to. Of course having interest cut to zero in the last few years has made it harder to save, but with a bit of luck I'll be able to afford somewhere to live yet Happy
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 08 Jun 10 16:46
same boat Lori

thing is we'll only get one when it's too late /not worth it

fck this country i hope it sinks
By:
treetop
When: 08 Jun 10 22:11
Its not in anyone's interests for house prices to fall too bad. The government,Bank and industry all need the degree of confidence that steady house prices bring to the consumer so financial measures will support whatever it takes to keep stability. Politicians will reassure the markets and policies will be adjusted to keep that side in place. Maybe a  5% or 10% max fall but cant see the scales of doom and gloom proposed.
By:
crediter
When: 08 Jun 10 22:45
gee..didnt know The Independent was running the country.
By:
charlatan
When: 09 Jun 10 02:09
The policy of spending cuts etc is going to keep inflation under control, which equals low interest rates and equals a stable housing market.

didn't work like that for japan or the us or ireland.......
By:
charlatan
When: 09 Jun 10 02:15
The government,Bank and industry all need the degree of confidence that steady house prices bring to the consumer so financial measures will support whatever it takes to keep stability.

were they stable when they were increasing price at well ahead of the rate of inflation every year? nope. did the government worry? nope. did the banks worry? certainly not enough.

all the above didn't want house prices to plummet in the us (in fact it was worse there with government more heavily in the mortgage business). they still did.
By:
Mrben
When: 09 Jun 10 04:56
Mc Moonbeam Joined: 22 Sep 05
Replies: 2138 08 Jun 10 16:46 


fck this country i hope it sinks

interesting moonbeam- most people with moan about the govt and the state of the nation and often with legitimacy.However I think you would have to dig pretty deep to find some one who wants their own country to "sink".Only the lowest of the low would state that.We aussie may give you poms a hard time and visa versa but I have never heard  an aussie say with venom that the UK should "sink" and certainly no aussie would say that  about our own country.
Fortunatly you live in a democracy so you have the option to leave.Which of course you won't because if you did you would have to face up to your own woeful inadequacies.
By:
melv
When: 09 Jun 10 05:17
The government,Bank and industry all need the degree of confidence that steady house prices bring to the consumer so financial measures will support whatever it takes to keep stability.

Thats all right then; no worries.

I suppose these geniuses will be getting their **** packets out and jottting  down these finacial measurs for us all too see. Just to keep our confidence up.

Now here comes reality.Oh dear nothing is going to happen; is it? Because these masters  of the universe are the same maniacs that a couple of years ago told us that the world was in an endless boom and the house prices where going up and up and up for ever and ever. Amen.
By:
gatespeed
When: 09 Jun 10 09:45
i find the whole housing/prices debate ridiculously over-played.

Unlike the 'price' of a house which is can be determined by any fools willingness to go into hock to the bank the 'value' of a house is primarily determined by the rent it yields which is very easy to work out because the rental yield of a property is very stable and easy information to acquire.

So, find out how much your property yields per year, divide that by a 'reasonable rate of return' ie 6% and you should get a pretty accurate 'value' of your house.

If your house is over-valued by this valuation - sell it.
If your renting and and your paying more that 6% of the sale price of the property - buy it.
By:
Washington Irving
When: 09 Jun 10 10:09
Of course Gatespeed, The Economist have been reporting on the price/rent ratio over recent years, they pointed out in April that for Britain as a whole this figure is currently running at 31% above it's long run average.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 09 Jun 10 11:37
Mrben Joined: 25 Oct 03

interesting moonbeam- most people with moan about the govt and the state of the nation and often with legitimacy.However I think you would have to dig pretty deep to find some one who wants their own country to "sink".Only the lowest of the low would state that.We aussie may give you poms a hard time and visa versa but I have never heard  an aussie say with venom that the UK should "sink" and certainly no aussie would say that  about our own country.
Fortunatly you live in a democracy so you have the option to leave.Which of course you won't because if you did you would have to face up to your own woeful inadequacies.

Oh really .. most countries you can't just up & leave to because i have UK citizenship not Thai / US etc

Most here would leave for Aus tomorrow .. most there wouldn't even consider it (unless like my Aussie cousins you crave the greed & money of London) but then they'll return .. just like the hoards of immigrants would if their benefits/education were stopped etc ..

So is it really my country ?
It seems more like one big prison
and the Government (there is only one) will tell you anything to have you think otherwise whilst propping up their precious market with absolutely Nothing to back it in real terms

So who has the real woeful inadequacies ?
By:
Live4
When: 09 Jun 10 14:29
Why don't you feck off to Oz then Moonface... can't afford the plane ticket?  Too hot for you?
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 09 Jun 10 19:24
^^ See i can spot a miserable gobby brit stuck with a dead mortgage & ar$ehole job a mile off Sad
By:
crediter
When: 10 Jun 10 01:24
with an extra 10 million people here by 2020;youd be nuts not to buy a house.........not to the renters  r us brigade.
By:
Mrben
When: 10 Jun 10 02:56
So is it really my country ?
It seems more like one big prison
and the Government (there is only one) will tell you anything to have you think otherwise whilst propping up their precious market with absolutely Nothing to back it in real terms

Mc Moonbeam Joined: 22 Sep 05
Replies: 2169 09 Jun 10 19:24 
^^ See i can spot a miserable gobby brit stuck with a dead mortgage & ar$ehole job a mile off Sad

clearly it is YOu moonbeam who had the mortgage and the dead end job.blaming the govt, the mortgage the job,the country no less for making your life a prison.LaughLaughLaugh It is YOU moonmoaner who has built you own prison due to you laziness.No one will save you.Get off your lazy whinging ass and change your own life if its that terrible.Stop being such a pathetic loser and take responsibility for yourself.
By:
Mrben
When: 10 Jun 10 07:41
crediter Joined: 23 Dec 05
Replies: 2297 10 Jun 10 01:24 
with an extra 10 million people here by 2020;youd be nuts not to buy a house.........not to the renters  r us brigade.

in aust we are slated for an extra 16million by 2030.Unfortunatly the vast majority of these will be financially poor immigrants.Not the catalyst for a boost in housing prices I think.In fact one could argue a case that with more "buyers" who have less money the market is more likely to move down than up.The argument that numbers of people alone push up housing prices does not gel.If that were tru banggladesh would have the worlds highest realestateLaugh
By:
chisel
When: 10 Jun 10 09:34
MC Moonbeam

People like you drag the countrty down. Are you teh sort of guy that feels hard done by? Have you low self esteem?

Look, the fact is you only live once, so get enthusiastic about life and get out there and make a good one for yourself.

I can assure you there are worse place to live. Places that are hell on earth. Look at the townships in South Africa, where people live in poverty. They dont moan, they get out there and celebrate teh World Cup coming to their country. They celebrate it despite it doing very little to actually help them!! Liek other have said. If you really dont like the UK just leave. No one is keeping you here. Problem is , most other countries in teh World will refuse to have you , unless you can offer them something in return ! That is where teh UK differs from other countries
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 10 Jun 10 10:57
clearly it is YOu moonbeam who had the mortgage and the dead end job.

I've never had & now don't need either
I've made my money .. but there's little to make me want to spend it HERE

chisel
No one is keeping you here. Problem is , most other countries in teh World will refuse to have you , unless you can offer them something in return ! That is where teh UK differs from other countries

Now you're contradicting yourselves !
Maybe you see my point then ?
By:
chisel
When: 10 Jun 10 13:08
How do you work that out Moonshine?

The points I made are totally different. What I am asking is where could YOU go and live that is so much better than the UK?
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 10 Jun 10 13:26
Most places moron
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 10 Jun 10 13:29
actually why don't You tell me Why broken britain is Soooo Much better than all these places i could move to ?

Taking into account standard of life/ costs etc ..
By:
Live4
When: 10 Jun 10 14:34
We're going to win the world cup.
By:
crediter
When: 10 Jun 10 18:45
mr.ben.....small clue ...this is an island.....and there aint much cheap property in japan either....oops nother island.
By:
melv
When: 10 Jun 10 19:20
The Japanese save.

We  borrow spend remortguage spend then borrow some more and spend. All in the firmly held belief that we deserve our houses to be cash cows. Then when it turns out that what goes up comes down and " you don't get owt for nowt" its all Boo hoo not fair how did that happen. Millions of us will get badly stung by negative equity but we will all be at it again next time round.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 10 Jun 10 20:13
exactly .. so why should i now suddenly choose to invest in a broken system .. that would never help me otherwise ?

Most people live here miserabley in debt ..
It's the British way .. they say ...
Hate on all winners ... why ... coz we're all losers together here ..
In The Prison .. that keeps Us Safe .
By:
Mrben
When: 11 Jun 10 01:38
oh well chisel we tried.moonbeam is a lost cause already.Leave him to his self imposed prison.

crediter Joined: 23 Dec 05
Replies: 2302 10 Jun 10 18:45 
mr.ben.....small clue ...this is an island.....and there aint much cheap property in japan either....oops nother island.

and your point would be what exactly?
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