Tennis Talk 2024: Vol 22 (Hamburg, Båstad, Gstaad, Newport, Palermo, Budapest)

Shnaider was 9/2 favourite for Budapest which would indicate that the chances of the decent price at anything other than the better tournaments have gone for good. The fact Sorribes Tormo was second favourite would seem to suggest than Shnaider should be up to winning this, but is 9/2 much value when you take into account whether she is carrying an injury, how she will react to the Wimbledon disappointment, and how much is she actually bothered about winning?

Slow start for Thiem here. Varillas with all the answers so far.

1.05    £73.38        £86.76
1.06    £325.07        £1,522.23
1.07            £3,118.85
1.08            £5,037.00
1.09            £5,061.18
1.1    £73.55        £3,262.35
1.11            £1,169.73
1.12            £12,940.23
1.13            £24,855.45
1.14            £5,505.28
1.15            £42,471.49

Alexei on the ropes and raging !

SST out there in another +3hrs match.

Reilly Opelka is back!

jumps to a 2-0 lead

Anyone see Arnaldi play. 5-2 up in the first set and won only two more games and both were breaks.

Jul 15, 2024 -- 9:33PM, tobiasr wrote:

Anyone see Arnaldi play. 5-2 up in the first set and won only two more games and both were breaks.

I did not.

José Morgado
@josemorgado
Carlos Alcaraz will play Rotterdam in 2025.

A schedule change for him next year, likely missing the Golden Swing.

great news for edy!

I remember when Rafa tried that once and ended up losing to Andreas Seppi.

But did he get injured?

Only a little bit.

Rafa destroyed Borg. That puts Borg GOAT suggestions to rest !

Jul 15, 2024 -- 4:27PM, SamuelMertensBertens wrote:

SST out there in another +3hrs match.

Her match vs Kerber will go down as one of my favs of all time !

ATP have Alex Bolt as weighing 71kg

So much star power in Newport at the moment! Eliot Spizirri vs Li Tu!

That was actually quite a good match (the second set) !

Ruud is going to be a perrenial journeyman. Hopefully he can look back at his GS finals and get some joy from that to keep him going

He is still young enough to make more slam finals at AO, RG or USO. And who knows, with some luck Ons Jabeur or Holger Rune could be on the other side in one of them.

Probably both as best chance of slam finals will be mixed doubles ! He will have to hope Hseih is retired though !!

1.04            £1,044.51
1.05    £0.17        £2,901.48
1.06            £3,684.73
1.07            £4,912.22
1.08            £2,975.21
1.09            £4,270.55
1.1            £36,251.90
1.11            £34,673.82
1.12            £18,757.37
1.13    £0.35        £3,806.06

Ugo in trouble !

Rublev about to extend his losing streak to 4.

Market seems to not care about his horror form

Jul 17, 2024 -- 11:04PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

Market seems to not care about his horror form

He can be a bit hard to predict, last time he lost four in a row, he went ahead and won Madrid!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/icsTK98m0Pc
I'm gonna miss Danielle Collins when she hangs up her racquet.

OMG
Diego Barbiani
@Diego_Barbiani
Lucie Safarova, expected to be back in doubles with Mattek Sands in Prague, gets also a WC for qualies in singles

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1161217081598487

woah! I can't believe what lil courts they play on in England. I always played on a full size court growing up.

Horrible last shot and net coverage by Raducanu.

Lutsie Shaffashoffa older than all the other recent comebacking mothers (Woz, Kerber, Osaka) and doing well in her match today.

I always make fun of German DJ's, and Swiss/Austrian ones are usually as bad, but it's good to hear this Gstaad DJ playing Helen Fischer today.

Lutsie Shaffashoffa older than all the other recent comebacking mothers (Woz, Kerber, Osaka) and NOT doing well in her match today.

But crypto token won her match

Liam Broady not happy with the breakfast being served in Atlanta.
And Andy Murray is making fun of him for it.
https://x.com/Liambroady/status/1814619256060891641

I found out something really cool, for us enthusiasts, about the forum search earlier. As most people will been victim to or will have seen others become victim to, the forum eats posts if you quote a post that contains a double space between characters.

What I found out is this: The posts might not show up on the forum, but they can be found in the forum search and are in the source code of the page. Likely completely, but I haven't done a full verification of that yet.

So if someone gets caught out by that bug after they had just written a long reply, they can retrieve their post from the page's source code instead of writing it all again.

E.g., SaMeBe....when you were caught out by the double space bug in

https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/thread/view/94186/31846605/2024-wimbledon-mouse-trap-trophy---womens-edition

at 4:53 PM BST

I am able to retrieve

"Tiebreakers were great. No need for change"

as your post. Your follow up said you were trying to write something along those lines. Do you remember if that was all?

Let's test this if you want. Oh look, there  is a double space. Quote this message, write a (if you want longish) reply and I will retrieve your post from source.

Maybe also do something like a paragraph in the post.

Jul 20, 2024 -- 2:22PM, edy wrote:

Let's test this if you want. Oh look, there

edy is a tech genius!

Was that all?

Jul 20, 2024 -- 2:22PM, edy wrote:

Let's test this if you want. Oh look, there

yes. I just wrote something longer.

ok, let me also try something longish like I didn't think Rafa would win his match today after having played 4 hrs. Because last time he played a 4 hrs match and played again the day after, he was toast in that match (against Youzhny).

is this just for the double space or can you catch posts eaten by the triple quote bug as well?

yay, that was the whole thing?

*.

Tried to test about the triple quote bug where you had been caught out by it in the Trump thread and found two caveats.

1. If the post is not within the latest 50 messages of a thread, then for some reason any messages before that do not show up in the source code even if you hit "Show More" and can see the post on your screen.
2. Seems to only work in live view even for recent posts.

So if you wanna know, we'll need to trigger the triple quote bug here.

2. Seems to only work in live view even for recent posts.

With this I mean it does not work in standard view, as far as I can tell. Recency, as far as time since is concerned, does not matter. What matters for my current knowledge on the method is that the post was within the latest 50 posts of a thread (i.e. is accessible in liveview without clicking on "Show More).

Jul 20, 2024 -- 3:01PM, edy wrote:

2. Seems to only work in live view even for recent posts.With this I mean it does not work in standard view, as far as I can tell. Recency, as far as time since is concerned, does not matter. What matters for my current knowledge on the method is that the post was within the latest 50 posts of a thread (i.e. is accessible in liveview without clicking on "Show More).

are you sure?

Jul 20, 2024 -- 3:05PM, SamuelMertensBertens wrote:

Jul 20, 2024 --  3:01PM, edy wrote:2. Seems to only work in live view even for recent posts.With this I mean it does not work in standard view, as far as I can tell. Recency, as far as time since is concerned, does not matter. What matters for my current knowledge on the method is that the post was within the latest 50 posts of a thread (i.e. is accessible in liveview without clicking on "Show More).are you sure?

Quite sure, yes.

Jul 20, 2024 -- 3:29PM, edy wrote:

Jul 20, 2024 --  3:05PM, SamuelMertensBertens wrote:Jul 20, 2024 --

Tennisform @Tennisform
Nadal has withdrawn from the doubles in Bastad.

only quite sure?

Yes, with it being a very recent recovery, there might be a way to recover bugged posts even if they are not within the latest 50 messages of a thread.

recent discovery

Rafa has done well this week to even get to an ATP final, but all this talk about how he was one of the best 15 players at Roland Garros and would have made QF or so if he hadn't drawn Zverev in R1 ... not so much. If this is his level, I don't see him playing in 2025.

Its a match too far for him at this stage.

If he plays this guy 1st or 2nd round, he despatches him with ease. But he's cooked now.

the 4 hr match with Navone didn't help, but him getting into such a dog fight with a player like Navone in the first place is a telling sign.

But this could be his last chance to get this close to winning another ATP title, so I hope he gets over the line here.

Zverev lost to Fils and gave him the worst kind of WTA handshake.

Shnaider gets the job done. Could have got turned over by Stollar in the first round, but straight sets thereafter. Credit that she justified favouritism. Doesn't always happen that the obvious standout wins these smaller events. That's three wins now, and two out of the last three. Couldn't see her listed on oddschecker for the US Open?

Decent match-up between Zheng and Muchova. Be surprised if Zheng doesn't take the final set. Movement better, and has the greater weight of shot.

This post Wimbledon lull is usually a good chance for new names to break through, but hard to do that in a week with lots of top players playing. Good showings by Shnaider and Fils though, even though they had won events before. And Borges did well, but I'm not reading much into that in a field that fell apart and with a tired Rafa on the other side.

Relatively comfortable final set for Zheng. Plenty of cheap points off the Muchova backhand.

Jul 21, 2024 -- 5:44PM, SamuelMertensBertens wrote:

Zverev lost to Fils and gave him the worst kind of WTA handshake.

and in true WTA fashion they were BFF's five minutes later
https://x.com/atptour/status/1815074645017612339