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SamuelMertensBertens
26 May 24 09:39
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Since our leader hasn't posted this, I'll call an audible and start this. I'd be more than happy if he takes over from here, but if he can't I'll keep this one updated until the end of the tournament.



Good day, mates I hope everyone had a good offseeason and is ready to kick it off in the new year. For some extra spice, I invite everyone to take part in this game that might well be considered a forum tradition by now.

HOW TO PLAY:

Rule changes compared to Australian Open - None (just a rephrasing. Veterans need not necessarily read):

Basic rules:

Pick a player each day. If your player wins, you advance to the next day and get to pick again. If your player loses, you are out. Each player can only be chosen once. The picks continue every day until only one person is left, everyone has been eliminated, or the tournament has finished. Each pick has to be submitted before the relevant match starts and once you've submitted the pick, you are stuck with it unless the match did not happen due to a prematch withdrawal. In that case you get to submit a new pick. That's the basic rules already.

Tiebreaker:

If multiple people go out on the same day and no-one remains, these last people to go out submit their best educated judgements regarding the outcome of the final match of the tournament - winner of the final, amount of sets lost by the winner, amount of games lost by the winner, points won by the winner. Judged also in that order. If both are the same in winner, then we go to sets. If both also had the same number of sets, then we go to games. If that's also still the same or the same difference to the actual number, then points won. That should hopefully always lead to a conclusion.

To enable that, those tiebreaker judgements will be sent to me per private message (or maybe X in some cases) instead of being publically announced in the thread. If the tiebreaker involves me, we'd have to find someone else who accepts the private messages, but I'm positive that will not be a problem.

Onto the cases:

Case: A pick I made became invalid because the match didn't happen due to a withdrawal. I have a life and don't sit on the computer all day to monitor such things, so wasn't able to submit a replacement pick. Am I screwed?
Decision: No, there is a backup solution. The last to start eligible favourite (I will use average odds on tennisexplorer.com) of the day is automatically entered for you. Eligible means player that had not been picked yet on a previous day.

Case: There was a retirement. Does the pick still count?
Decision: Yes, picks count the moment 1 ball has been played in the match.

Case: I looked at the wrong schedule and picked a player that doesn't even play. What now?
Decision: Please submit a new pick.

Case: A lot of matches were rescheduled for the next day due to rain. Can I pick from those on the new day?
Decision: No, rescheduled matches are not eligible to be picked from. If this situation arises, I will try to post a list of ineligible matches.

Case: I have a great suggestion for the comp. Am I allowed to tell you and others?
Decision: Sure, suggestions are always welcome!

At the end, glory, lots of forum cred, and an entry into the competition's Hall of Fame awaits the ultimate winner. The Hall of Fame can be found at:

https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/thread/view/94186/30945693/suicide-pool-winners-throughout-the-years

I hope that covers everything. If there are any additional questions, feel free to ask.
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Report wisewords May 26, 2024 6:03 PM BST
Korda
Report wisewords May 26, 2024 6:05 PM BST
oh Laugh I should have read all the posts first
Report Journeyman May 26, 2024 6:08 PM BST
We all get to pick again.
Which is just as well for the Draper and Coric pickers Grin
Report SamuelMertensBertens May 26, 2024 10:10 PM BST
Dammit edy, if you could have just got this up in time half the field would be eliminated by now Cry
Report edy May 26, 2024 11:20 PM BST
Not sorry about that.

Grant takes Baez for Monday.
Report Anubis8 May 27, 2024 12:06 AM BST
Felix Auger Aliassime
Report Blencathra May 27, 2024 6:23 AM BST
Khachanov
Report Journeyman May 27, 2024 8:31 AM BST
F.Auger-Aliassime
Report snowynoon May 27, 2024 9:22 AM BST
T.Paul
Report SamuelMertensBertens May 27, 2024 9:37 AM BST
T Paul
Report edy May 27, 2024 9:49 AM BST
Ruusuvuori
Report edy May 27, 2024 9:50 AM BST
n88uk takes Ruusuvuori
Report edy May 27, 2024 9:58 AM BST
aaronh Baez
Report mesmerised May 27, 2024 2:28 PM BST
Cerundolo
Report edy May 27, 2024 4:14 PM BST
Did I say Monday start yesterday? I meant Tuesday of course......

Happy

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I hate you, Emil! Sad
Report Anubis8 May 27, 2024 10:43 PM BST
Tuesday:
Luciano Darderi
Report Journeyman May 27, 2024 10:57 PM BST
Struff
Report mesmerised May 27, 2024 11:14 PM BST
Zeppieiri
Report SamuelMertensBertens May 28, 2024 12:26 AM BST
ADF
Report Blencathra May 28, 2024 9:10 AM BST
M Navone
Report snowynoon May 28, 2024 9:25 AM BST
Casper ruud
Report edy May 28, 2024 9:33 AM BST
Advanced to day 2:

aaronh - Baez
Anubis8 - Auger-Aliassime
Blencathra - Khachanov
GRANTCKING - Baez
Journeyman - Auger-Aliassime
mesmerised
SamuelMertensBertens - Paul
snowynoon - Paul

Freshly out:

edy
n88uk
Report edy May 28, 2024 9:43 AM BST
Grant: Darderi
Report edy May 28, 2024 9:46 AM BST
aaron: Darderi
Report mesmerised May 28, 2024 5:54 PM BST
Griekspoor
Report mesmerised May 28, 2024 6:10 PM BST
I already posted my pick, i saw a blank space next to my name and thougt I had to make a selection.
Report edy May 28, 2024 6:39 PM BST
Yes, sorry. I forgot to write down your pick for you.
Report mesmerised May 28, 2024 7:39 PM BST
Grant and aaron taking the easy route and picking a 1.05 shot, no balls either of them, unlike myself who chose a massive 1.25 shot
Report edy May 28, 2024 7:53 PM BST
Grant would like to make it known to you that his balls are indeed tiny little peas (figuratively), but that at the same time he considers it a pro play. Use up a no-hoper against an even bigger no-hoper before no-hoper 1 then loses as well a round or two later.
Report mesmerised May 28, 2024 8:02 PM BST
no way Grant can think that deep
Report edy May 28, 2024 8:14 PM BST
Grant does have one of the best rates of victories per participation on here.
Report mesmerised May 28, 2024 8:38 PM BST
how is Grant, I know how much he loved the forum
Report mesmerised May 28, 2024 9:29 PM BST
day 3, Bergs
Report Journeyman May 28, 2024 10:26 PM BST
Rublev
Report Anubis8 May 28, 2024 11:34 PM BST
Grigor Dimitrov
Report SamuelMertensBertens May 28, 2024 11:34 PM BST
Korda
Report edy May 29, 2024 12:40 AM BST
Advanced to day 3:

aaronh - Baez, Darderi
Anubis8 - Auger-Aliassime, Darderi
Blencathra - Khachanov, Navone
GRANTCKING - Baez, Darderi
Journeyman - Auger-Aliassime, Struff
mesmerised - Cerundolo, Griekspoor
SamuelMertensBertens - Paul, Davidovich Fokina
snowynoon - Paul, Ruud
Report edy May 29, 2024 12:43 AM BST
The next two days are meant to have quite a bit of rain, so there might have to be some improvisation.
Report Blencathra May 29, 2024 7:28 AM BST
Seb Korda
Report snowynoon May 29, 2024 8:48 AM BST
Auger Alassime
Report edy May 29, 2024 9:28 AM BST
Forecast has improved Excited
Report edy May 29, 2024 9:29 AM BST
aaronh - Shelton
GRANTCKING - FAA
Report edy May 29, 2024 4:42 PM BST
Ok, so a whole bunch of matches were rained out today and tomorrow doesn't look much better. We'll do the following regardless of what actually gets scheduled:

Day 4: pick a second round match of the top half (Anything between the Djokovic match at the top up to Medvedev)
Day 5: Third round match from the bottom half
Report edy May 29, 2024 4:43 PM BST
HTML draw:

https://www.rolandgarros.com/en-us/results/SM?round=2
Report Blencathra May 29, 2024 4:56 PM BST
thursday ..... Tommy Paul
Report SamuelMertensBertens May 29, 2024 8:24 PM BST
Thursday: Cerundolo
Report mesmerised May 29, 2024 8:47 PM BST
Fritz day 4

my 2nd pick btw was Zeppieri, I only later picked Greiekspoor as I thought I hadn't made a pick, both went through anyway
Report edy May 29, 2024 9:07 PM BST
Oh, good thing someone is paying attention here with the game leader being so unattentive. Will be corrected in the next summary.
Report snowynoon May 29, 2024 9:10 PM BST
Thursday Kachanov
Report SamuelMertensBertens May 29, 2024 9:11 PM BST

May 29, 2024 -- 9:07PM, edy wrote:


Oh, good thing someone is paying attention here with the game leader being so unattentive. Will be corrected in the next summary.


you have a third chance to get mes's picks right tomorrow Excited

Report edy May 29, 2024 9:13 PM BST
Grant day 4 - Cerundolo
Report Journeyman May 29, 2024 9:25 PM BST
Khachanov
Report edy May 30, 2024 8:31 AM BST
Aaron day 4: Cerundolo
Report edy May 30, 2024 9:46 AM BST
Khachanov for me
Report edy May 30, 2024 9:46 AM BST
Wait, I'm out.
Report edy May 30, 2024 9:46 AM BST
No Khachanov for me.
Report Anubis8 May 30, 2024 11:28 AM BST
Francisco Cerundolo
Report Journeyman May 30, 2024 10:39 PM BST
Out of both comps on day 4

This is what happens when you adopt an NK schedule and skip the Australian Open
GL all
Report mesmerised May 30, 2024 10:40 PM BST
Rublev day 5

or legend, as some mug on here used to call himLaugh
Report Anubis8 May 30, 2024 11:28 PM BST
Stefanos Tsitsipas
Report edy May 31, 2024 12:47 AM BST
The tournament is back on track, so we can go back to picking from the order of play.

Advanced to day 5:

aaronh - Baez, Darderi, Shelton, Cerundolo
Anubis8 - Auger-Aliassime, Darderi, Dimitrov, Cerundolo
Blencathra - Khachanov, Navone, Korda, Paul
GRANTCKING - Baez, Darderi, Auger-Aliassime, Cerundolo
mesmerised - Cerundolo, Zeppieri, Bergs, Fritz
SamuelMertensBertens - Paul, Davidovich Fokina, Korda, Cerundolo

Freshly out

Journeyman, snowynoon (Khachanov on day 4)
Report SamuelMertensBertens May 31, 2024 12:57 AM BST
Rublev
Report Blencathra May 31, 2024 9:54 AM BST
H Hurkacz
Report edy May 31, 2024 10:04 AM BST
Grant Dimitrov
Report edy May 31, 2024 10:31 AM BST
Aaron Rublev
Report snowynoon May 31, 2024 11:07 AM BST
Busy making pick ,as AA won ,then see I'm out as Kachanov lost ,forgot about him in the confusion!Good luck all survivors!
Report edy May 31, 2024 10:34 PM BST
Anubis8 advanced to day 6

Blencathra and Grant are to be decided (please still make a pick for the next day if you wish to continue in the comp)

aaronh, mesmerised and SamuelMertensBertens were kicked in the nutsack by an angry Rublev and are out.
Report Anubis8 June 1, 2024 12:13 AM BST
Holger Rune
Report Blencathra June 1, 2024 9:23 AM BST
Taylor Fritz
Report edy June 1, 2024 10:24 AM BST
Grant takes Rune
Report Anubis8 June 2, 2024 12:10 AM BST
Jannick Sinner
Report edy June 2, 2024 1:17 AM BST
Advanced to day 7

Anubis8 - Auger-Aliassime, Darderi, Dimitrov, Cerundolo, Tsitsipas, Rune
Blencathra - Khachanov, Navone, Korda, Paul, Hurkacz, Fritz
GRANTCKING - Baez, Darderi, Auger-Aliassime, Cerundolo, Dimitrov, Rune
Report edy June 2, 2024 1:17 AM BST
Grant takes Sinner
Report Blencathra June 2, 2024 6:55 AM BST
Tsipsitas
Report edy June 2, 2024 10:56 PM BST
Advanced to day 8

Anubis8 - Auger-Aliassime, Darderi, Dimitrov, Cerundolo, Tsitsipas, Rune, Sinner
Blencathra - Khachanov, Navone, Korda, Paul, Hurkacz, Fritz, Tsitsipas
GRANTCKING - Baez, Darderi, Auger-Aliassime, Cerundolo, Dimitrov, Rune, Sinner
Report Blencathra June 2, 2024 11:10 PM BST
C Ruud
Report Anubis8 June 2, 2024 11:38 PM BST
Alexander Zverev
Report edy June 3, 2024 10:31 AM BST
Ruud for Grant
Report edy June 4, 2024 12:56 AM BST
Everyone marches on to day 9

Anubis8 - Auger-Aliassime, Darderi, Dimitrov, Cerundolo, Tsitsipas, Rune, Sinner, Zverev
Blencathra - Khachanov, Navone, Korda, Paul, Hurkacz, Fritz, Tsitsipas, Ruud
GRANTCKING - Baez, Darderi, Auger-Aliassime, Cerundolo, Dimitrov, Rune, Sinner, Ruud
Report Anubis8 June 4, 2024 6:51 AM BST
Carlos Alcaraz
Report Blencathra June 4, 2024 7:33 AM BST
J Sinner
Report edy June 4, 2024 10:30 AM BST
Grant Alcaraz
Report Blencathra June 4, 2024 5:30 PM BST
Down to only 1 match tomorrow Sad
Report SamuelMertensBertens June 4, 2024 8:42 PM BST
Yeah, Novak threw a real curveball here which will have messed with people's plans. But at least it didn't leave anyone out of picks. Although Anubus is stuck with De Minaur.
Report edy June 4, 2024 9:09 PM BST
This situation reminded me earlier today that yet again I failed to clarify what happens if all participants go out on the same day, but one or more of them did so due to not having any picks left.

Precedent, established more than a decade ago I think, is that having no picks left is a disadvantage.
Report Journeyman June 4, 2024 9:16 PM BST
The best analogy is the arcade game snake (or the movie Tron). As soon as you hit a wall (no available picks) the persoan that hasn't hit a wall is the obvious winner.
Report edy June 4, 2024 9:21 PM BST
Ok, as a huge fan (and if I may say so occasional winner) of the Armagetron Advanced game (open source internet multiplayer light cycle game) way back in time I might be able to get behind that. No promises yet.
Report edy June 4, 2024 10:04 PM BST
Everyone marches on to day 10

Anubis8 - Auger-Aliassime, Darderi, Dimitrov, Cerundolo, Tsitsipas, Rune, Sinner, Zverev, Alcaraz
Blencathra - Khachanov, Navone, Korda, Paul, Hurkacz, Fritz, Tsitsipas, Ruud, Sinner
GRANTCKING - Baez, Darderi, Auger-Aliassime, Cerundolo, Dimitrov, Rune, Sinner, Ruud, Alcaraz
Report Blencathra June 4, 2024 10:10 PM BST
A Zverev
Report edy June 4, 2024 10:40 PM BST
Grant takes Zverev, but seems to already be resigned to seeing no path to victory.
Report Anubis8 June 4, 2024 11:07 PM BST
Come on Alex D, you can win this match.
Report Blencathra June 5, 2024 9:42 AM BST

Jun 4, 2024 -- 10:40PM, edy wrote:


Grant takes Zverev, but seems to already be resigned to seeing no path to victory.


ExcitedWhoops

Report SamuelMertensBertens June 5, 2024 2:10 PM BST

Jun 4, 2024 -- 10:40PM, edy wrote:


Grant takes Zverev, but seems to already be resigned to seeing no path to victory.


If either of ADM or Zverev withdraws today, there is a path! As he would still have a pick left for Friday.

Report edy June 6, 2024 1:33 AM BST
Anubis8 is out because de Minaur lost. Grant survived the Zverev, but immediately afterwards drove his tron light cycle into a dung hill (Grant is unharmed, but the light cycle is forever lost).

What's one person's stinky bad lad, is another person's fortune: I am glad to announce Blencathra as the winner of this edition! Getting to semifinal stage of the tournament with a pick left, a pick that would likely win too, is impressive. Very well done, Blencathra.

Before making this decision I consulted with an independent panel of trusted rule experts on twitter because I still have some problems with truly understanding the finer details of this inherited rule myself ever after Journeyman's analogy earlier. I wondered if the theoretical chance of one of Alcaraz/Sinner withdrawing mattered. After all, if that match does not happen, it would then also leave Blencathra without a pick on semifinal day.

The panel unanimously decided that it does not matter. Even if Blencathra was to drive their light cycle into a dung hill the moment one of Alcaraz/Sinner withdrew, they still got further than Grant, whose light cycle is already stuck in a smelly mountain of dung.

I hope you others also agree and I hope to see everyone back for Wimbledon. Hoppefully then with a better organised start. Sorry once more for not starting the threads in time myself.
Report SamuelMertensBertens June 6, 2024 1:54 AM BST
Congrats on the win Blencathra, and great cycling analogies edy.
Report edy June 6, 2024 2:24 AM BST
Oh and Blencathra, you are welcome for the voided first Sunday and Draper. Silly

Thank you everyone for playing.
Report Blencathra June 6, 2024 11:09 AM BST
Cheers Edy

Ty SMB & oh aye Mr Draper

Always fun ,

Roll on Wimbers
Report Anubis8 June 6, 2024 2:53 PM BST
Well done Blencathra and thanks Edy for running this again.
Report Journeyman June 6, 2024 4:28 PM BST
Well dung, Blencathra
Report SamuelMertensBertens June 6, 2024 5:09 PM BST
Laugh
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