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If Italy had this, they should have had it for SF 1 as well, now?
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His performance had leaked beforehand and all of X (including Aaron and I) were all like: 'Dis is no good live.
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39% is crazy. I wonder if this was just for Italy's votes, and not the whole semi final.
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the uploader said "ISR*EL has won the Italian televote, receiving almost 40% of the votes"
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Hard to believe Isreal got 39% and Switzerland 6% for the night for all countries. Almost impossible. Starting to think this was just Italy
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Isreal is such a bad word amongst ESC fans these days, that an asterisk is needed?
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....It's what I told you initially, Angela....
edy • May 9, 2024 10:42 PM BST Aaron supplied me with information that the Italian televote leaked. Israel won 40% of that. |
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Israel are quite clever at pulling tricks for exposure. My guess is 8.0 outright is way too low.
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Sorry if I phrased it misleadingly and it doesn't say what I wanted it to say.
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yeah, 60s to 8 for one televote from one country, that might be manipulation/ a bad leak. That is huge, when no other criteria justify a shortening of odds imo.
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But could be useful to monitor the spotify number (I take it those are updated often), social media hype etc in the next days.
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Israel love the exposure too and not out of their abilities to fix this stunt
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7.4 £113.07 £1,463.42
7.6 £746.51 £1,633.76 7.8 £65.04 £2,180.15 8 £105.94 £4,846.06 8.2 £3,510.19 8.4 £43.42 £5,586.60 8.6 £5,010.00 8.8 £67.00 £2,991.09 9 £93.59 £6,568.61 Matched on Israel. Incredible. |
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6.6 now. Tele vote 2.8
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What if it's a gambling syndicate? What a genius move. Go to Italy, get some hackers and manipulate their televoting and see the market going crazy.
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Suspect it is something similar. Israel PR, these guys are certainly up to this imho. Can they do this throughout Europe and win it, that is the concern laying, otherwise I suspect the 6.0 now is crazy
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it Gola's Spotify numbers shoot up tomorrow, there's some correlation. If not I smell shenanigans, popular with the people but not with the Spotify listeners. Is there a way to check Spotify listenings for Italy only?
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Switzerland 6%
Israel 39% Yet both 6.4 outright. Switzerland likely to get a very good jury, none the less, something doesn't add up ! You would assume Switzerland were much bigger drifters, but their price has actually come in since the end of the show where they were around 7.0 |
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If there were no insiders I would say Ukraine at 15s were a lovely bet. Great performance and could do an Arcade with a top 4 televote and jury score and pip others.
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When Israel won the whole thing in 2018 (but because of the juries, not televoting), they got a 7 out of Italy.
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Could Israel hack a win ? Wouldn't they love it, they spend so much on Eurovision and wanting to win
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Not quite ! But this is fascinating. Having traded the markets in Eurovision for so long this is the biggest plunge I can remember since Fuego ! I thought Israel were very good but not this good. They are now 5.2 outright which is insane !
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I thought Israel might pop Switzerland in the televotes, but 6% to 40% is really hard to fathom ! It's great PR to go into the final as 2nd favourites. Throw 100k at this, or even more, and it's nothing to their budget for Eurovision. Question is, can they do this throughout Europe, or are there no shenanigans and this is just a genuine vote etc !
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At this rate they might go favourites. Not seen a plunge like this before
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https://twitter.com/Eurovision/status/1788689550350455048
Both Switzerland and Isreal under producer's choice. Does that 2nd half then or do they want to spread out the faves? |
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Who in Europe is friends enough with Isreal to (co)-host?
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My £500 20s Ukraine got matched. This was Israel after tonight
4.2 £374.93 £56.82 4.3 £138.95 £2,013.91 4.4 £15.00 £246.01 4.5 £343.03 £4,268.28 4.6 £276.65 £965.38 4.7 £69.96 £1,070.38 4.8 £96.09 £276.00 4.9 £37.76 £4,136.33 5 £41.27 £1,627.36 5.1 £121.58 £2,834.17 5.2 £102.54 £230.82 5.3 £43.89 £375.51 5.4 £27.03 £3,065.10 5.5 £50.00 £4,655.72 5.6 £50.00 £300.00 5.7 £172.64 5.8 £192.18 £669.06 5.9 £7.22 £4,282.74 6 £90.86 £7,757.76 6.2 £56.02 £3,080.46 6.4 £100.86 £3,888.86 6.6 £22.92 £1,013.28 6.8 £56.25 £1,381.16 7 £53.81 £1,874.31 7.2 £25.00 £663.92 7.4 £203.44 £1,463.42 7.6 £100.00 £1,633.46 7.8 £2,180.13 8 £28.44 £4,845.93 8.2 £3,510.05 8.4 £43.42 £5,586.40 8.6 £5,009.80 8.8 £66.00 £2,990.97 9 £93.59 £6,567.55 9.2 £10.00 £608.93 9.4 £555.26 9.6 £13.45 £480.87 9.8 £18.94 £291.13 10 £155.51 £1,234.62 10.5 £78.16 £32.27 11 £22.00 £1,428.82 11.5 £1,222.32 12 £3.00 £714.98 12.5 £452.20 13 £25.83 £505.54 13.5 £791.51 14 £10.00 £3,281.03 14.5 £2,055.69 15 £3,035.99 15.5 £31.75 £1,572.93 16 £10.00 £1,204.28 16.5 £12.80 £1,377.52 17 £33.60 £1,495.27 |
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this is funky
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I got £500 matched at 20s Ukraine. If this is shenanigans and the market is clean, then that seems a generous price for one of the 2 biggest threats to Croatia
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will Israel be 1.9 or 85 by Saturday night?????
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