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27 Aug 23 12:31
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Yippee-ka-yay, tennis fans! It is time for the final grand slam of the year. Entering this slam, the current leaderboard for the year is (both sexes combined)

2 wins: Anubis8, GRANTCKING
1 win: Blencathra, Journeyman

Will one of these be able to take a lead and win the year? We will know in about one to two weeks.

HOW TO PLAY:

Rule changes compared to Wimbledon - 2:

1)

Previous rule: No tiebreaker at the end. If the last remaining competitors went out on the same day, everyone was deemed the winner.
New rule: Tiebreaker to make it so that one person stands apart and wins

If multiple people go out on the same day and no-one remains, these last people to go out, submit their best educated judgements regarding the outcome of the final match of the tournament - winner of the final, amount of sets lost by the winner, amount of games lost by the winner, points won by the winner. Judged also in that order. If both are the same in winner, then we go to sets. If both also had the same number of sets, then we go to games. If that's also still the same or the same difference to the actual number, then points won. That should hopefully always lead to a conclusion.

To enable that, those tiebreaker judgements will be sent to me per private message (or maybe X in some cases) instead of being publically announced in the thread. If the tiebreaker involves me, we'd have to find someone else who accepts the private messages, but I'm positive that will not be a problem.

If the situation arises that two heroic people make it all the way to the final match of the tournament, something we've never had I think, but you never know, and they can theoretically tie, then those judgements will also be sent to the host ahead of the final.

2)

Previous rule: Switching your pick freely after initial submission was possible (albeit often unstated in the rules, which led to confusion last time around)
New rule: You submit your pick, you are (almost always) stuck with that pick.

There are two exceptions:

a) You make an invalid pick (please no abuse). No automatic replacement picks are made for you in this case, so it is on you to post a replacement pick yourself.
b) You picked a player whose match doesn't happen because they or their opponent withdrew before the match. Please try to submit a replacement pick of your own choice, but since it cannot be expected that everyone is able to monitor the withdrawals throughout the day, there is a backup solution in place (unchanged from what it previously was). The last to start eligible favourite (I will use average odds on tennisexplorer.com) of the day is automatically entered for you. Eligible means player that had not been picked yet on a previous day.

Basic rules:

Pick a player each day. If your player wins, you advance to the next day and get to pick again. If your player loses, you are out. Each player can only be chosen once. The picks continue every day until only one person is left, everyone has been eliminated, or the tournament has finished. That's the basic rules already.

Some additional rules:
- picks have to be submitted before the relevant match starts
- in case of a retirement, all picks count as long as 1 ball of the match has been played
- switching is not allowed (see rules changes section)
- if your pick withdraws before the match and you do not submit a new pick for the day yourself, then the last to start eligible favourite (I will use average odds on tennisexplorer.com) of the day is automatically entered for you. Eligible means player that had not been picked yet on a previous day. This is done because it cannot be expected from people to be around all day.
- if you make an invalid pick it is upon you to post a replacement pick yourself in time. The above automatic pick after a withdrawal does not apply to that situation. I (and hopefully others) will try to keep an eye on validity of picks and try to make people aware in case there has been an invalid one that needs to be replaced.
- in case of (long) rain delays and carried over matches, you can not pick from these matches on the next day. I.e. a match is first scheduled on Monday, but there is rain and the match never starts on Monday. It is then rescheduled for Tuesday. In that situation you are not allowed to pick from that match. If this situation arises, I will try to post the ineligible matches.

At the end, glory, lots of forum cred, and an entry into the competition's Hall of Fame awaits the ultimate winner. The Hall of Fame can be found at:

https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/thread/view/94186/30945693/suicide-pool-winners-throughout-the-years

I hope that covers everything. If there are any additional questions, feel free to ask.
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Report Blencathra August 27, 2023 7:27 PM BST
MARIA SAKKARI
Report snowynoon August 28, 2023 1:48 PM BST
Bencic
Report Anubis8 August 28, 2023 1:54 PM BST
Sorana Cirstea
Report SamuelMertensBertens August 28, 2023 1:59 PM BST
Mirra
Report n88uk August 28, 2023 3:17 PM BST
Danielle Collins
Report Journeyman August 28, 2023 3:46 PM BST
Y.Miyazaki
Report edy August 28, 2023 4:01 PM BST
GRANTCKING: Bencic
Report edy August 28, 2023 4:04 PM BST
Lin Zhu for me
Report edy August 28, 2023 4:04 PM BST
aaronh: Azarenka
Report Blencathra August 28, 2023 5:39 PM BST
well that was short n sweet (out by 5.38pm on day 1)   

record ???
Report wisewords August 28, 2023 6:36 PM BST
Coco Gauff
Report n88uk August 29, 2023 8:55 AM BST
Rebecca Marino
Report edy August 29, 2023 11:28 AM BST
Day 1 Summary

Through to day 2:

aaronh - Azarenka
Anubis8 - Cirstea
edy - Zhu
GRANTCKING - Bencic
Journeyman - Miyazaki
n88uk - Collins
SamuelMertensBertens - Andreeva
snowynoon - Bencic
wisewords - Gauff

Newly Out:

Blencathra (Sakkari)
Report SamuelMertensBertens August 29, 2023 1:42 PM BST
Marino
Report Anubis8 August 29, 2023 2:18 PM BST
Elina Svitolina
Report snowynoon August 29, 2023 2:29 PM BST
Vondrousova.
Report edy August 29, 2023 3:56 PM BST
I: Marino
aaronh. Krejcikova
GRANTCKING: Marino
Report Journeyman August 29, 2023 3:58 PM BST
A.Pavlyuchenkova
Report wisewords August 29, 2023 4:39 PM BST
Donna Vekic
Report Journeyman August 30, 2023 9:08 AM BST
B.Bencic
Report Anubis8 August 30, 2023 11:31 AM BST
Jelena Ostapenko
Report edy August 30, 2023 12:09 PM BST
Day 2 Summary - not the prettiest day there's ever been as the competition lost two thirds of the people that started the day as active participants.

Through to day 3:

Anubis8 - Cirstea, Svitolina
Journeyman - Miyazaki, Scrabble
snowynoon - Bencic, Vondrousova

Newly Out:

aaronh (Krejcikova)
edy, GRANTCKING, n88uk, SamuelMertensBertens (all Marino)
wisewords (Vekic)
Report snowynoon August 30, 2023 4:08 PM BST
Day 3 ,Swiatek
Report edy August 31, 2023 1:22 PM BST
Day 3 Summary - Not that I want to build any pressure or anything, Anubis8, but with GRANTCKING now being out of both competitions, this is your golden chance to set yourself apart and finish the year with most titles of them all. Also still with outsider chances for that are you, Journeyman, but winning both men and women in the same tournament has traditionally not come easy.

Through to day 4:

Anubis8 - Cirstea, Svitolina, Ostapenko
Journeyman - Miyazaki, Scrabble, Bencic
snowynoon - Bencic, Vondrousova, Swiatek
Report Anubis8 August 31, 2023 3:21 PM BST
Marketa Vondrousova
Report snowynoon August 31, 2023 3:45 PM BST
Sabalenka
Report Journeyman August 31, 2023 3:53 PM BST
M.Keys
Report Journeyman September 1, 2023 12:31 AM BST
Iga
Report edy September 1, 2023 11:20 AM BST
Day 4 Summary

Through to day 5:

Anubis8 - Cirstea, Svitolina, Ostapenko, Vondrousova
Journeyman - Miyazaki, Scrabble, Bencic, Keys
snowynoon - Bencic, Vondrousova, Swiatek, Sabalenka
Report Anubis8 September 1, 2023 3:33 PM BST
Karolina Muchova
Report snowynoon September 1, 2023 4:10 PM BST
Jennifer Brady
Report edy September 1, 2023 10:57 PM BST
Day 5 Summary - A brave play from snowynoon takes them out of the comp while the other two played it considerably safer to reach their heads up.

Through to day 6:

Anubis8 - Cirstea, Svitolina, Ostapenko, Vondrousova, Muchova
Journeyman - Miyazaki, Scrabble, Bencic, Keys, Swiatek

Newly Out:

snowynoon (Brady)
Report Anubis8 September 2, 2023 11:38 AM BST
Qinwen Zheng
Report Journeyman September 2, 2023 1:32 PM BST
D.Kasatkina
Report edy September 3, 2023 3:23 AM BST
Day 6 Summary

Through to day 7:

Anubis8 - Cirstea, Svitolina, Ostapenko, Vondrousova, Muchova, Zheng
Journeyman - Miyazaki, Scrabble, Bencic, Keys, Swiatek, Kasatkina
Report Anubis8 September 3, 2023 11:42 AM BST
Cori Gauff
Report Journeyman September 3, 2023 1:02 PM BST
K.Muchová
Report edy September 4, 2023 12:38 AM BST
Day 7 Summary

Through to day 8:

Anubis8 - Cirstea, Svitolina, Ostapenko, Vondrousova, Muchova, Zheng, Gauff
Journeyman - Miyazaki, Scrabble, Bencic, Keys, Swiatek, Kasatkina, Muchova
Report Journeyman September 4, 2023 6:08 AM BST
M.Vondroušová
Report Anubis8 September 4, 2023 11:51 AM BST
Aryna Sabalenka

This will be decided today then. I won't be able to pick anyone for the Tuesday quarter-finals. I'm not expecting Peyton Stearns to beat Vondrousova so I think Journeyman has this in the bag.
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 4, 2023 12:56 PM BST
Osty's win over Iga was big for this.
Report Anubis8 September 4, 2023 1:37 PM BST
Just having another think about this, there's no point in me picking Sabalenka as I'm out if Vondrousova beats Stearns so can I switch my pick for today to Peyton Stearns?

I don't know if the new rules allow me to do this.
Report Journeyman September 4, 2023 2:26 PM BST
I did wonder if you would pick Sabalenka and give me extra outs!
It's not my call but I'd be okay with you switching on this occasion as it's before start of play.
Report Anubis8 September 4, 2023 9:01 PM BST
Congratulations to Journeyman. Thanks to Edy for running this again.
Report Journeyman September 4, 2023 9:28 PM BST
Cheers Anubis. That was a bit of a Duel in the sun.

I agree with caramba. Ostapenko was the deciding factor really. Thanks to Edy.
Report edy September 4, 2023 9:55 PM BST
Sorry Anubis, I didn't see this in time as the thread was stuck.

You going from Sabalenka to Stearns would normally not be allowed, but the purpose of that new rule is to prevent abuse and smokescreens after play had started. In a situation like this (well before play started, two participants left, the other person in Journeyman proactively saying they are ok with it) I don't see myself overruling you two on this matter and telling you guys it must absolutely not happen and you are stuck with Sabalenka. While I am German and, yes, we Germans are very keen on having rules for everything, I am at the same time not aspiring to become known as the Rules-Nazi by being completely intransigent and ruthless in their interpretation.

....But I was late anyway, so sorry for that, Anubis8. I hope Stearns having lost anyway makes it a bit easier to forgive me.

With that out of the way: Congratulations, Journeyman. Another tournament well played sees you equal the two titles of Anubis8 and GRANTCKING, with the chance still there to claim the sole lead on the year with another title in the men's.
Report edy September 4, 2023 10:08 PM BST
I did some counting earlier today btw. in regards to who claimed the most casualties this year. In the women there were comparatively few players who claimed multiple scalps (Already know it will be fewer than the men even if that one's not finished).

The only players who kicked out multiple people are:

Marino (4 - USO)
Iga (4 - Wimbledon)
Sakkari (2 - USO and ...another slam)

In the men's the list already stands at 6 names before I even added any US Open casualties.

With this comp finishing on its 8th day, it is the second shortest one of the year.

AO - finished after a remarkable 4 days
RG - 10
Wimbledon - 9
USO - 8
Report snowynoon September 5, 2023 1:16 PM BST
Well played Journeyman.
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 5, 2023 2:38 PM BST
well done, JM
and thanks for hosting, edy.
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