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Yippee-ka-yay, tennis fans! It is time for the final grand slam of the year. Entering this slam, the current leaderboard for the year is (both sexes combined)

2 wins: Anubis8, GRANTCKING
1 win: Blencathra, Journeyman

Will one of these be able to take a lead and win the year? We will know in about one to two weeks.

HOW TO PLAY:

Rule changes compared to Wimbledon - 2:

1)

Previous rule: No tiebreaker at the end. If the last remaining competitors went out on the same day, everyone was deemed the winner.
New rule: Tiebreaker to make it so that one person stands apart and wins

If multiple people go out on the same day and no-one remains, these last people to go out, submit their best educated judgements regarding the outcome of the final match of the tournament - winner of the final, amount of sets lost by the winner, amount of games lost by the winner, points won by the winner. Judged also in that order. If both are the same in winner, then we go to sets. If both also had the same number of sets, then we go to games. If that's also still the same or the same difference to the actual number, then points won. That should hopefully always lead to a conclusion.

To enable that, those tiebreaker judgements will be sent to me per private message (or maybe X in some cases) instead of being publically announced in the thread. If the tiebreaker involves me, we'd have to find someone else who accepts the private messages, but I'm positive that will not be a problem.

If the situation arises that two heroic people make it all the way to the final match of the tournament, something we've never had I think, but you never know, and they can theoretically tie, then those judgements will also be sent to the host ahead of the final.

2)

Previous rule: Switching your pick freely after initial submission was possible (albeit often unstated in the rules, which led to confusion last time around)
New rule: You submit your pick, you are (almost always) stuck with that pick.

There are two exceptions:

a) You make an invalid pick (please no abuse). No automatic replacement picks are made for you in this case, so it is on you to post a replacement pick yourself.
b) You picked a player whose match doesn't happen because they or their opponent withdrew before the match. Please try to submit a replacement pick of your own choice, but since it cannot be expected that everyone is able to monitor the withdrawals throughout the day, there is a backup solution in place (unchanged from what it previously was). The last to start eligible favourite (I will use average odds on tennisexplorer.com) of the day is automatically entered for you. Eligible means player that had not been picked yet on a previous day.

Basic rules:

Pick a player each day. If your player wins, you advance to the next day and get to pick again. If your player loses, you are out. Each player can only be chosen once. The picks continue every day until only one person is left, everyone has been eliminated, or the tournament has finished. That's the basic rules already.

Some additional rules:
- picks have to be submitted before the relevant match starts
- in case of a retirement, all picks count as long as 1 ball of the match has been played
- switching is not allowed (see rules changes section)
- if your pick withdraws before the match and you do not submit a new pick for the day yourself, then the last to start eligible favourite (I will use average odds on tennisexplorer.com) of the day is automatically entered for you. Eligible means player that had not been picked yet on a previous day. This is done because it cannot be expected from people to be around all day.
- if you make an invalid pick it is upon you to post a replacement pick yourself in time. The above automatic pick after a withdrawal does not apply to that situation. I (and hopefully others) will try to keep an eye on validity of picks and try to make people aware in case there has been an invalid one that needs to be replaced.
- in case of (long) rain delays and carried over matches, you can not pick from these matches on the next day. I.e. a match is first scheduled on Monday, but there is rain and the match never starts on Monday. It is then rescheduled for Tuesday. In that situation you are not allowed to pick from that match. If this situation arises, I will try to post the ineligible matches.

At the end, glory, lots of forum cred, and an entry into the competition's Hall of Fame awaits the ultimate winner. The Hall of Fame can be found at:

https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/thread/view/94186/30945693/suicide-pool-winners-throughout-the-years

I hope that covers everything. If there are any additional questions, feel free to ask.
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Report Blencathra August 27, 2023 7:25 PM BST
BEN SHELTON
Report SamuelMertensBertens August 28, 2023 2:08 PM BST
Safiullin
Report Anubis8 August 28, 2023 2:08 PM BST
Borna Gojo
Report n88uk August 28, 2023 3:21 PM BST
Roman Safiullin
Report Journeyman August 28, 2023 3:45 PM BST
B.Gojo
Report edy August 28, 2023 4:01 PM BST
GRANTCKING: Safiulin
Report edy August 28, 2023 4:04 PM BST
aaronh: Gojo
Report edy August 28, 2023 4:05 PM BST
I: Gojo
Report wisewords August 28, 2023 6:39 PM BST
Tommy Paul
Report n88uk August 29, 2023 8:57 AM BST
Andy Murray
Report Blencathra August 29, 2023 10:46 AM BST
Grigor Dimitrov
Report edy August 29, 2023 11:25 AM BST
Day 1 Summary

Through to day 2:

aaronh - Gojo
Anubis8 - Gojo
Blencathra - Shelton
edy - Gojo
GRANTCKING - Safiullin
Journeyman - Gojo
n88uk - Safiullin
SamuelMertensBertens - Safiullin
wisewords - Paul

Newly out:

Nobody
Report SamuelMertensBertens August 29, 2023 1:39 PM BST
Dimitrov
Report Anubis8 August 29, 2023 2:26 PM BST
Thanasi Kokkinakis
Report Journeyman August 29, 2023 3:58 PM BST
A. De Minaur
Report edy August 29, 2023 3:59 PM BST
I: Lloyd Harris
aaron: Michelsen
Grant: Murray
Report wisewords August 29, 2023 4:41 PM BST
Hubert Hurkacz
Report n88uk August 30, 2023 8:05 AM BST
Alejandro Davidovich Fokina
Report Journeyman August 30, 2023 9:07 AM BST
A.Davidovich Fokina
Report edy August 30, 2023 12:03 PM BST
Day 2 Summary

Through to day 3:

aaronh - Gojo, Michelsen
Blencathra - Shelton, Dimitrov
edy - Gojo, Harris
GRANTCKING - Safiullin, Murray
Journeyman - Gojo, de Minaur
n88uk - Safiullin, Murray
SamuelMertensBertens - Safiullin, Dimitrov
wisewords - Paul, Hurkacz

Newly out:

Anubis8 (Kokkinakis)
Report edy August 30, 2023 12:43 PM BST
aaron day 3: Fokina
Grant: Cerundolo
Report edy August 30, 2023 12:45 PM BST
I guess I should find out which Cerundolo he meant...
Report edy August 30, 2023 12:46 PM BST
Francisco Cerundolo it is for Grant.
Report Journeyman August 30, 2023 12:50 PM BST
^
That could have been fun
Report Blencathra August 30, 2023 2:19 PM BST
Ruud
Report Journeyman August 30, 2023 3:43 PM BST
Hey edy just making sure you haven't accidentally forgotten to include your own pick by getting distracted by the Cerundolo thing.
You usually post your pick at the same time as the two banned phorumites.
Report wisewords August 30, 2023 4:51 PM BST
Taylor Fritz
Report SamuelMertensBertens August 30, 2023 5:04 PM BST
ADF
Report edy August 30, 2023 5:33 PM BST
Fokina
Report edy August 30, 2023 5:35 PM BST
Thanks Journeyman. I often do, yes. This time I hadn't looked yet and then around kick-off I got distracted with something else.

Good thing I let wisewords and SaMeBe convince me it was a crap idea to have people post by the start of the day's play.
Report SamuelMertensBertens August 31, 2023 2:42 AM BST
Day 4: Norrie
Report n88uk August 31, 2023 9:22 AM BST
Cameron Norrie
Report edy August 31, 2023 1:19 PM BST
Day 3 Summary

Through to day 4:

aaronh - Gojo, Michelsen, Fokina
edy - Gojo, Harris, Fokina
Journeyman - Gojo, de Minaur, Fokina
n88uk - Safiullin, Murray, Fokina
SamuelMertensBertens - Safiullin, Dimitrov, Fokina
wisewords - Paul, Hurkacz, Fritz

Newly out:

Blencathra (Ruud)
GRANTCKING (F. Cerundolo)
Report wisewords August 31, 2023 4:00 PM BST
Cam Norrie
Report edy August 31, 2023 4:43 PM BST
Baez for me for day 4
Report edy August 31, 2023 4:43 PM BST
And also for Aaron
Report Journeyman August 31, 2023 5:28 PM BST
and also for me
Report Journeyman August 31, 2023 6:08 PM BST
Hopefully they both lose so we can try out the fancy new tiebreak rule, six ways
Report Journeyman September 1, 2023 12:30 AM BST
T.Fritz
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 1, 2023 4:00 AM BST
Gojo
Report n88uk September 1, 2023 9:04 AM BST
Taylor Fritz
Report edy September 1, 2023 11:19 AM BST
Day 4 Summary

Through to day 5:

aaronh - Gojo, Michelsen, Fokina, Baez
edy - Gojo, Harris, Fokina, Baez
Journeyman - Gojo, de Minaur, Fokina, Baez
n88uk - Safiullin, Murray, Fokina, Norrie
SamuelMertensBertens - Safiullin, Dimitrov, Fokina, Norrie
wisewords - Paul, Hurkacz, Fritz, Norrie

Newly out:

Nobody
Report edy September 1, 2023 2:29 PM BST
Aaron: Fritz
I: Fritz
Report wisewords September 1, 2023 5:07 PM BST
Ben Shelton
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 2, 2023 2:03 AM BST
assuming Gogo gets this done, DeMinaur for Day 6.
Report n88uk September 2, 2023 9:18 AM BST
Jack Draper
Report edy September 2, 2023 1:21 PM BST
Day 5 Summary

Through to day 6:

aaronh - Gojo, Michelsen, Fokina, Baez, Fritz
edy - Gojo, Harris, Fokina, Baez, Fritz
Journeyman - Gojo, de Minaur, Fokina, Baez, Fritz
n88uk - Safiullin, Murray, Fokina, Norrie, Fritz
SamuelMertensBertens - Safiullin, Dimitrov, Fokina, Norrie, Gojo
wisewords - Paul, Hurkacz, Fritz, Norrie, Shelton

Newly out:

Nobody
Report edy September 2, 2023 4:38 PM BST
Zverev
Report Journeyman September 2, 2023 4:59 PM BST
J.Sinner
Report edy September 2, 2023 5:05 PM BST
Norrie for Aaron
Report wisewords September 3, 2023 12:14 AM BST
Medvedev
Report n88uk September 3, 2023 8:33 AM BST
Tommy Paul
Report edy September 3, 2023 12:24 PM BST
Day 6 Summary - more than half of the original field still going strong.

Through to day 7:

edy - Gojo, Harris, Fokina, Baez, Fritz, Zverev
Journeyman - Gojo, de Minaur, Fokina, Baez, Fritz, Sinner
n88uk - Safiullin, Murray, Fokina, Norrie, Fritz, Draper
SamuelMertensBertens - Safiullin, Dimitrov, Fokina, Norrie, Gojo, DeMinaur [sic]
wisewords - Paul, Hurkacz, Fritz, Norrie, Shelton, Mdvedev

Newly out:

aaronh (Norrie)
Report edy September 3, 2023 3:57 PM BST
Tiafoe
Report Journeyman September 3, 2023 4:03 PM BST
F.Tiafoe
Report Journeyman September 3, 2023 4:20 PM BST
On a sidenote I'm guessing yesterday was the first time six people picked six different players on day six?
Report Journeyman September 3, 2023 4:27 PM BST
There'd be no way of checking ofc but almsot certainly never happened before. (I just thought it was bit spooky thats all).
Report edy September 3, 2023 4:39 PM BST
Most or even all threads of previous editions should still be available, so there is a way of checking.

Enjoy!
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 3, 2023 10:50 PM BST
Fritz
Report wisewords September 3, 2023 11:51 PM BST
Djokovic
Report Journeyman September 4, 2023 6:08 AM BST
A.Rublev
Report edy September 4, 2023 11:55 AM BST
Day 7 Summary

Through to day 8:

edy - Gojo, Harris, Fokina, Baez, Fritz, Zverev, Tiafoe
Journeyman - Gojo, de Minaur, Fokina, Baez, Fritz, Sinner, Tiafoe
SamuelMertensBertens - Safiullin, Dimitrov, Fokina, Norrie, Gojo, DeMinaur [sic], Fritz
wisewords - Paul, Hurkacz, Fritz, Norrie, Shelton, Medvedev, Djokovic

Newly out:

n88uk (Paul)
Report edy September 4, 2023 3:31 PM BST
Sinner
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 4, 2023 6:36 PM BST
Alcaraz
Report wisewords September 5, 2023 1:38 AM BST
Sinner
Report edy September 5, 2023 11:11 AM BST
Day 8 Summary

Through to day 9:

Journeyman - Gojo, de Minaur, Fokina, Baez, Fritz, Sinner, Tiafoe, Rublev
SamuelMertensBertens - Safiullin, Dimitrov, Fokina, Norrie, Gojo, DeMinaur [sic], Fritz, Alcaraz

Newly out:

wisewords and one other (Sinner)
Report Journeyman September 5, 2023 3:58 PM BST
N.Djokovic
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 5, 2023 4:18 PM BST
Tiafoe
Report SamuelMertensBertens September 6, 2023 5:24 AM BST
well done on the double!
Report edy September 6, 2023 12:13 PM BST
Remarkable, most remarkable effort from you, Journeyman.

After four competitions this year, these players were responsible for multiple evictions:

Norrie - 3
Auger-Aliassime - 3
Sinner - 3
van de Zandschulp - 2
Rune - 2
Bublik - 2
Tsitsipas - 2
Report Journeyman September 6, 2023 2:31 PM BST
Thanks caramba and thanks edy for organising the whole shebang yet again.
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