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You all have about 12 more hours to catch your breath after that epic between Djokovic and Alcaraz, but then there's more tennis.
We have events from Cleveland (honk! honk!) and Winston-Salem and also US Open qualifiers. Enjoy, and beware of retirements!
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Report wisewords August 25, 2023 1:41 AM BST
US Open cancelled everything for the night?
Report edy August 25, 2023 3:51 PM BST
Teymuraz Gabashvili is back from his doping ban this week at the tender age of 38.
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 4:55 PM BST
you excited?
Report edy August 25, 2023 4:57 PM BST
no
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 5:32 PM BST
same
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 5:32 PM BST
stupid rain
Report edy August 25, 2023 6:33 PM BST
SaMeBe, I need you to lie down or sit down on the floor.
Report edy August 25, 2023 6:37 PM BST
Only after having done so, you may open the following X post

Spoiler: Show
https://twitter.com/MikaelYmer/status/1695117835415011597
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 7:02 PM BST
can he play pickleball or is he banned from that too?
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 7:26 PM BST
the mighty Eva Lys is 1 match away
Report edy August 25, 2023 7:45 PM BST
Is Eva Lys back?
Report edy August 25, 2023 7:57 PM BST
The recently retired Risa Ozaki must be a genius coach in addition to being renowned for her beauty (A Japanese academy literally titled a video "Unbelievable! Such a Cute Pro hits Such a Cool Forehand! - Pro Tennis Lesson" because of her - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3cysNLqrGU)

Propelled Haruka Kaji into grand slam qualies for the first time ever at the age of almost 29, where her protegee promptly won her first round match and took a set against Juvan, with the chance to even win the match yet.
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 8:25 PM BST
stupid rain
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 8:44 PM BST
calling edy
Report edy August 25, 2023 8:52 PM BST
hi
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 8:55 PM BST
is there more rain tonight or is that it now?
Report edy August 25, 2023 8:56 PM BST
I only know as much as any readily available weather forecast website.
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 9:34 PM BST
Scared
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 9:59 PM BST
Yafan Wang is back!
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 10:00 PM BST
you tres nerveux for Vera, edy?
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 10:38 PM BST
what do you know about Mccartney Kessler?
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 11:03 PM BST
Fiona Crawley wins! woooooo
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 11:18 PM BST

Aug 25, 2023 -- 4:38PM, wisewords wrote:


what do you know about Mccartney Kessler?


she won Happy

Report edy August 25, 2023 11:57 PM BST
Wickmayer destroyed by back trouble and crying hard.
Report edy August 25, 2023 11:58 PM BST
Not good that she is back to having recurring (big) back trouble repeatedly again. Already retired in her previous tournament with it.
Report wisewords August 25, 2023 11:59 PM BST
Yanina Clijsters Sad
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 12:02 AM BST
so her good comeback will be shortlived? Sad
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 12:03 AM BST
will some of these matches be moved to tomorrow? or will all 16 women's qualies finals be played tonight?
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 12:04 AM BST
10 matches yet to start. it's 7pm in NY
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 12:35 AM BST
La La!!!
Report edy August 26, 2023 12:43 AM BST
An extreme "C'mon!" battle in this tiebreak between Prozorova and Zidansek.
Report edy August 26, 2023 12:45 AM BST
Andy Roddick's nephew JC is currently playing in the Texas UTR.
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 12:52 AM BST
Katya Volynets absolutely destroyed Erika in set 1
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 12:53 AM BST
the forehand was all swish, swish, boom!
Report Journeyman August 26, 2023 1:52 AM BST
Erika levels!
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 2:34 AM BST
edy you enjoying your huge Prozo/Zidan mugfest?
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 2:49 AM BST
respect the Katya Volynets!
Report edy August 26, 2023 10:16 AM BST
https://twitter.com/FanofTennis2/status/1695254888194654245

Prozorova's preparation before her first match point.
Report SamuelMertensBertens August 26, 2023 11:32 AM BST

Aug 25, 2023 -- 12:33PM, edy wrote:


SaMeBe, I need you to lie down or sit down on the floor.


I did see this yesterday already, but next time you have news like this tell me to stand up so I can jump from joy as quickly as possible.

Report edy August 26, 2023 3:07 PM BST
skøl
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 3:41 PM BST
pardon?
Report edy August 26, 2023 5:36 PM BST
I forgive you
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 6:27 PM BST
for what?
Report edy August 26, 2023 6:30 PM BST
You tell me! You are the one who literally asked for a pardon.
Report edy August 26, 2023 6:32 PM BST
I just decided to give in to your request, regardless of what it was really about, and not argue unnecessarily.
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 7:37 PM BST
stop being silly. what does your skøl mean?
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 7:37 PM BST

Aug 25, 2023 -- 3:59PM, wisewords wrote:


Yafan Wang is back!


,

Report edy August 26, 2023 7:40 PM BST
Vera is such an inspiration for all old ladies on this forum.

Skøl is a swedish drinking word. Basically the equivalent of the English "cheers" as you raise your glass in celebration of Mikael Ymer having had retired from the sport.
Report edy August 26, 2023 7:42 PM BST
Though some illiterates might also spell it "skål".
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 7:47 PM BST
bowl..... Plain
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 7:48 PM BST
but thanks for the explanation
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 7:52 PM BST
some unbeaten Polish boxer called Fiodor Czerkaszyn just lost from a 1.01/1.02 SP
Report edy August 26, 2023 7:55 PM BST
Oh no, Himeno.
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 7:58 PM BST
well done Vera!
Report edy August 26, 2023 7:59 PM BST
Himeno had five match points to win in straight sets, but now it's 1-1 in sets as Juvan converted on her first set point.
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 7:59 PM BST
let's go fighter Kaja
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 8:00 PM BST
you a fan edy?
Report edy August 26, 2023 8:01 PM BST
I had my "Sakatsuma converts on her fifth match points and can let go a loud Himeyes" post all ready in my mind already.
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 8:08 PM BST
aw
Report Journeyman August 26, 2023 8:32 PM BST
Liv 'no boosters' Gadecki to do an Emma, win ten matches in a row and take the title
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 8:37 PM BST
SST won Laugh
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 8:38 PM BST
she's like a cartoon tennis player
Report edy August 26, 2023 8:38 PM BST
Sad
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 8:38 PM BST
oh no, you're blue
Report edy August 26, 2023 8:40 PM BST

Aug 26, 2023 -- 2:32PM, Journeyman wrote:


Liv 'no boosters' Gadecki to do an Emma, win ten matches in a row and take the title


Not entirely sure. Emma had a better summer on the ITF US hard courts before taking the world by storm.

Report wisewords August 26, 2023 8:44 PM BST
Kasatkina down to 13 in the rankings. not sure where she should be ranked tbh. she's clearly behind Iga, Aryna, Elena, Jess, Coco, Ons.. but after that it's hard to position players. should Kasatkina be in the top 10 iyo?
Report edy August 26, 2023 8:47 PM BST
No, she hasn't gained the points to be top 10 despite not even being injured (as far as I remember). So no way should she be in the top10.
Report edy August 26, 2023 8:49 PM BST
No Himeyes. Sad
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 8:50 PM BST
Kaja fighter too strong!
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 8:50 PM BST

Aug 26, 2023 -- 2:47PM, edy wrote:


No, she hasn't gained the points to be top 10 despite not even being injured (as far as I remember). So no way should she be in the top10.


she was top 10 a few months ago

Report edy August 26, 2023 8:51 PM BST
Crawley fighting hard to impress everyone despite not being allowed to keep the money.
Report edy August 26, 2023 8:51 PM BST
Just playing for the love of the game.
Report edy August 26, 2023 8:51 PM BST
And a few months ago she was justified to be in the top10. Happy
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 8:52 PM BST
Fiona and Mccartney both give it their best
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 8:53 PM BST

Aug 26, 2023 -- 2:51PM, edy wrote:


And a few months ago she was justified to be in the top10.


yeah. so you're basically saying whoever is currently top 10 deserves to be top 10 and that's it. I suppose Kasatkina will never be more than a fringe top 10 player even on her best form

Report wisewords August 26, 2023 8:58 PM BST
potentially might win a big clay tournament one day if she has the perfect run, or maybe a big title on a slow hard court like IW
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 8:58 PM BST
ah well. Sara Sorribes Tormo is the champion in the Land.
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 9:09 PM BST
HSV about to go top of Bundesliga 2 after 4 matches played
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 9:15 PM BST
it's been an absolutely savage start to the season for Werder
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 9:16 PM BST
the next 2 matches in the season are huge for Werder
Report edy August 26, 2023 9:23 PM BST
Werder will get relegated with 0 points at the end of the season. I have very little doubt of that.
Report wisewords August 26, 2023 9:46 PM BST
Fiona..
Report edy August 26, 2023 10:40 PM BST
The point she won at 5*-3 15-30 in the second set would be certain to win point of the tournament of qualies counted for it.
Report wisewords August 27, 2023 12:06 AM BST
you a fan of Fiona?
Report edy August 27, 2023 12:12 AM BST
No, but that simply was point of the tournament material.
Report wisewords August 27, 2023 12:23 AM BST
yeah yeah..
Report SamuelMertensBertens August 27, 2023 12:16 PM BST
I know in MMA you can retire, then dope as much as you like while you are retired, then if you want to come back to the sport you have to enter the WADA testing program again. This is why Connor "retired". How does this work for tennis?
Report edy August 27, 2023 12:37 PM BST
In tennis it is similar. I don't know the specifics and months involved without looking things up, but if you retire you are also removed from the testing programme in tennis. If you then want to make a comeback, you need to enter the testing programme again a certain amount of months you start match play again.

Not sure how it's handled for retired and simultaneously suspended players.
Report SamuelMertensBertens August 27, 2023 12:57 PM BST
So if you are suspended and not retired, you still have to the doping testing just as often as other active players? If so, rather than actually removing yourself from the doping programme with the intention to dope, you could also do it just to not have to put up with having to do the testing until you are close to a comeback?
Report edy August 27, 2023 4:36 PM BST
I looked up the rules and if I understand them correctly:

You are subject to getting tested during the entirety of your suspension if you remain an active player.

If you retire during a suspension, your period of ineligibility is basically paused at the time of the retirement. If the player wishes to come back, they must sign up to the anti-doping programme for either six months  in advance or for the remaining months on their suspension (whichever is longer). I don't remember how many suspension months Ymer had left when he retired a few days ago, but if he had let's say 18 months left and he also formally retired with the authorities and not just on X, then in order to come back, he will need to sign up and make himself available for testing for those 18 remaining months prior to starting match play again.

If you just retire without a suspension and want to come back, you need to make yourself available six months before your comeback.
Report wisewords August 27, 2023 4:43 PM BST
Probably doubtful M Ymer officially retired. he just had a tantrum on X
Report edy August 27, 2023 4:45 PM BST
He isn't on the official list of retired players yet on the ITIA website, but I guess it can not be expected to be updated so quickly. Will see in the next few months if he appears on there.

https://www.itia.tennis/tadp/retired-players-list/
Report wisewords August 27, 2023 5:22 PM BST
Doubt Ymer knows how to inform them. I imagine he relies on his agent to do such things. Most likely scenario is that his agent will try to convince him not to be so hasty
Report wisewords August 27, 2023 5:22 PM BST
Something along the lines of "I'll ask you again in 2 or 3 weeks. you might feel differently then" etc
Report edy August 27, 2023 5:53 PM BST
Jack Sock will retire from tennis after the US Open and play pickleball instead. No conditioning needed there.
Report wisewords August 27, 2023 6:57 PM BST
players retiring at 30. is pickleball going to take over?
Report edy August 27, 2023 7:36 PM BST
It will continue to take away tennis courts as it's more fun for geriatrics and fat people.
Report wisewords August 27, 2023 8:39 PM BST
Sad
Report SamuelMertensBertens August 28, 2023 12:19 AM BST

Aug 27, 2023 -- 10:43AM, wisewords wrote:


Probably doubtful M Ymer officially retired. he just had a tantrum on X


At first I thought it was tantrum/doing it for attention, then I thought it might be so that he wouldn't have to do testing, but with those rules it would be silly to do that and then have to delay his comeback should he ever want to comeback. I'm 98% sure he will come back though.

Report SamuelMertensBertens August 28, 2023 12:27 AM BST
https://twitter.com/carlosalcaraz/status/1695586703233229300/photo/1
Is this as close as Carlos is gonna get?
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