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SamuelMertensBertens
15 Jul 23 13:04
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Their match at French Open had quite a lot of interest, so let's try a thread again for pre match talk and match commentary. So to not dilute the threads, let's keep the talk about this one here and not in the main Wimbledon thread.
I think Novak prevails again, but I think the odds are about right and don't see any value.

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By:
stu
When: 15 Jul 23 13:18
I backed Novak pre tournament prices, and actually laid Carlos same time - first was ok, second prob a mistake now.

But I think I won't be amending it too much as I think he will win, even if narrowly.
By:
stu
When: 15 Jul 23 13:39
Will be interesting to see who starts stronger - Novak has sometimes been inconsistent, but I have a feeling he won't in this one. He knows he has to be at 100% or close in his game here.

On the other hand, Carlos crumbled last time these two met as a further thought...
By:
brain dead jockeys
When: 15 Jul 23 20:15
this is a final for the ages. bit worried about carlos since he said he cramped due to nerves in the french semi final.
i think this will go to 5 sets. novak desperately wants to match feds 8 wimbledon titles. he is probably feeling hard done by since a wimbledon was cancelled due to covid. fed will be watching this final. he knows this is the only record he has over novak.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 15 Jul 23 20:18
Got to be Joker

This is his big one to tie Fed here and give himself a damn good chamce of surpassing his 8 within in the next two years if he stays fit and healthy. This is the biggest major for him now in my opinion, he gets 2 more theres no comeback for Federers legacy as he wont have the numbers game in anything which is mental after what hes won.

Joker wins it in 4 for me, Alcaraz will take him soon but it will be on the hard courts my prediction most likely at the US Open
By:
Wesdag
When: 15 Jul 23 20:30
Novak will win simply because his mind is much stronger having had to go toe to toe with Rafa over all these years.

Carlos is obvs talented but I'm not convinced about his mind in moments of high pressure. You always rely on Novak at the key moments.

Oh, & btw, if Novak loses the 1st set, load up. Same applies if he goes 2-1 down.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 16 Jul 23 00:11
Novak losing the first set was always giddy moments Laugh

Straight to the betting him in play esp against weak mentalities like Kygios etc
By:
stu
When: 16 Jul 23 08:08
It's usually a good play available to back Novak when he goes behind - but I believe he'll take the first set here, as he did v Sinner.
By:
cosmik debris
When: 16 Jul 23 12:24
Alcaraz is value. He won't be making all those errors that Sinner did against Djokovic.
By:
stu
When: 16 Jul 23 12:30
He's better than Sinner for sure, but Novak beat Sinner in 3rd gear and sometimes 2nd.
By:
alun2005
When: 16 Jul 23 13:14
I am sure Djok will try to slow play down. Whether he gets penalised for it is another matter.
By:
Wesdag
When: 16 Jul 23 13:39
He got a time warning in his semi just after the hindrance call not that it phased him.
By:
Des Pond
When: 16 Jul 23 14:01
While yeterday's womens final was a real low point for tennis, and for sport. Hopefully this match will make up for it. And give us a real spectacle.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 16 Jul 23 14:08

Jul 16, 2023 -- 6:30AM, stu wrote:


He's better than Sinner for sure, but Novak beat Sinner in 3rd gear and sometimes 2nd.


A lot in 1st gear too !

Novak surely wins this ! If he plays games and goes big odds I will get involved. Otherwise I am happy to watch. Part of me wants them both to win !

By:
The Leopard
When: 16 Jul 23 14:08
Alcaraz wins 10-8 in the 5th set ......come on Carlos !
By:
The Leopard
When: 16 Jul 23 14:09
10-8 in tie-break ...oc
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 16 Jul 23 14:10
I would be very surprised if Novak lost, but it's been a great tournament financially so happy to let the perceived value slide here !
By:
Des Pond
When: 16 Jul 23 14:13
1.78, not bad for the 1st game
By:
Des Pond
When: 16 Jul 23 14:20
hope I'm wrong, but might be the best we get.
By:
stu
When: 16 Jul 23 14:21
Nice start, break from Novak
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 16 Jul 23 14:23
Daniel Craig there with Michael Jackson
By:
Wesdag
When: 16 Jul 23 14:28
Straight Schweppes?
By:
Des Pond
When: 16 Jul 23 14:34
worrying lack of belief on the part of Alcaraz. Sad
By:
Wesdag
When: 16 Jul 23 14:34
Mental giant v mental midget imo.
By:
Des Pond
When: 16 Jul 23 14:39
Djokovic knows he's getting too old to chuck away sets early on. Much to the chagrin of punters hoping for a trade.
By:
Wesdag
When: 16 Jul 23 14:42
Breadstick instead of bagel.
By:
Des Pond
When: 16 Jul 23 14:43
why do they always rail at their coaching team when they feck up? Laugh
By:
Des Pond
When: 16 Jul 23 14:45
well, that was a disappointment. Hope Alcaraz doesn't capitulate altogether.
By:
stu
When: 16 Jul 23 14:46
Got one bet landed, first set, thanks Novak.
By:
Wesdag
When: 16 Jul 23 14:49
I said above that mentally Carlos will be found wanting v Novak.
When he's been involved in absolute wars with Rafa over the years who's equally as strong mentally, then anybody else is a walk in the park.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 16 Jul 23 14:51
wow ! volley of the year !
By:
stroodle
When: 16 Jul 23 14:55
Djok not serving as good as previous, shoulder could be under pressure.
By:
Wesdag
When: 16 Jul 23 14:57
windy
By:
stroodle
When: 16 Jul 23 14:58
Fancy the young man here
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 16 Jul 23 15:00
wow !!!
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 16 Jul 23 15:00
Novak making Carlos do EVERYTHING to win points here !
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 16 Jul 23 15:05
Backed Novak 3-0 5.5, let's see !
By:
stroodle
When: 16 Jul 23 15:13
Impressive by djok there, still favouring alcaraz from here
By:
stu
When: 16 Jul 23 15:15
Fundamentally I don't think Carlos has a serve enough for grass here. He has too much vulnerability to being broken.
By:
stroodle
When: 16 Jul 23 15:19
Djok is unbelievable for age fit as fcuk.
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