Tennis Talk 2023: Vol 21 (Wimbledon)

Disappointed with Sinner. He's capable of better than he's showing here isn't he?

Jul 14, 2023 -- 9:10AM, mesmerised wrote:

Medvedev v Alcaraz will be a lot better, Sinner is a mug

how do you see that match going mate ?

Jul 14, 2023 -- 9:11AM, Des Pond wrote:

Disappointed with Sinner. He's capable of better than he's showing here isn't he?

Definitely nowhere near his best. Novak well within himself too though.

It's like facing Mike Tyson in his prime.
Most of his opponents were beaten before they set foot in the ring.
These mugs can't live with Novak & he knows having been up against the other 2 all time greats.

yeah, we were spolied in the big 4 era. Lots of classic semis between the four of them and sometimes a Delpo or Stan would put a put up a fight. When it's a match-up like today an undramatic straight sets affair is natural, but when it's bo5 and no other tennis going on it's pretty boring.

spot on wes. novak could drop the first 2 against pretty much anyone on tour and go to the toilet thinking, i find gear 2, i win easy. he's done that so many times

Novak keeping energy for a final - smart.

no games or mucking about this year. respects Alcaraz and more focused than ever on winning his slams.

market has been hating on Novak both against Rublev and today. Let's see if it will be same against Carlos on Sunday.

1.5x Carlos going into the 3rd at the French vs the GOAT arguably in his prime with regards ability

It's expecting Sinner to be released and Novak to wobble/lose focus/play games. 1.6 Novak for the set is based solely on this. Novak stays in second gear and set is his again.

Jul 14, 2023 -- 9:12AM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

Jul 14, 2023 --  3:10PM, mesmerised wrote:Medvedev v Alcaraz will be a lot better, Sinner is a mughow do you see that match going mate ?

close, but Alcaraz will edge it, probably 3-2

Tough five-setter other semi will only help Novak if that's the case.

hope Carlos win 3-1 or even 3-0 to conserve his energy for the big final on Sunday

Novak is cruising to his 8th and 24th

No denying he's the best of the three now Fed is in the rear view distance now.

Novak has got all the numbers in his favour.
Will probs do the grand slam for good measure.

Going to equal the GOAT Margaret Court

The woke will be cheering him on in that case.

Could've done with this melodrama in the first set, tbh.

Novak

that's some trolling by Novak!

Simply going through the motions.

Even Ben liked it.
Ben Rothenberg@BenRothenberg
Djokovic suddenly running out of **** to give about the Centre Court crowd is a joy to behold, and very overdue. #Wimbledon

At least we got a cool meme out of this match. That Novak crying face will live on for years, and be used by both camps.

now something is really wrong with his eyes? oh the irony.

what an ue machine Sinner

Sinner spraying soo many errors that TB. Novak loving it !

if the net had been lowered by 15 cm Sinner would have won that tb easily.

Jul 14, 2023 -- 8:06AM, mesmerised wrote:

This is a straight 3-0 win, Sinner might get lucky with a tie break, but that would be his lot.

easy

boring babyface promo after all that.

good transaction by Lee to pick up on Novak's use of the word hindrance.

will Novak reach 30 slams? 23 right now. 2 left in 2023. 3 more years at the top perhaps, another 12 chances. 14 chances, how many does he win?

She would also be a much presenter than Clare Balding.

Hope the next semi is a little more entertaining !!

a lot is on the trajectory curve of Carlos. If he keeps progressing, I don't see Novak being able to hang with him.

Jul 14, 2023 -- 10:34AM, SamuelMertensBertens wrote:

She would also be a much presenter than Clare Balding.

a much presenter I agree

my b, e, t and r keys were broken but I have fixed it now

anyone seen edy?

probably courtsiding at Braunschweig challenger.

hope he's all good. I know he hates Wimbledon so maybe that's why he's not around. the end of a slam is often the dullest part. I'm already looking ahead to the US hard court swing!

Jul 14, 2023 -- 10:35AM, SamuelMertensBertens wrote:

a lot is on the trajectory curve of Carlos. If he keeps progressing, I don't see Novak being able to hang with him.

Yeah. Carlos improving, Novak in a few years SURELY will regress a bit. Be interesting to see. Can't rule out Novak staying at this level mind you. He is just a machine

Toad out of the 14 slams available until the end of 2026, how many does Novak take?

Jul 14, 2023 -- 7:47AM, wisewords wrote:

I'll go 15 games

13 games he got. he underperformed!

edy is on BBC disguised as John McEnroe, now suggesting they should put sand on the CC to prevent players from slipping.

Jul 14, 2023 -- 10:43AM, wisewords wrote:

Toad out of the 14 slams available until the end of 2026, how many does Novak take?

5 !

I think edy has been struggling to cope without aaron for a long while, suffering in silence, then when n88 became part time, it all became a bit too much for him

Daniil is such a character. we need more Daniil's in men's tennis

Carlos will be loving how far back Daniil stands.

Jul 14, 2023 -- 10:53AM, wisewords wrote:

Daniil is such a character. we need more Daniil's in men's tennis

we have enough heels in tennis. Need more likeable faces, like Rublev.

Daniil isn't a simple heel. he's complex

how do you see the score line in this match wisey ?

never heard this term heel before

I don't watch a lot of tennis, but I don't quite get why people would dislike Medvedev. He seems perfectly likeable and reasonable to me.

he's Russian

Jul 14, 2023 -- 11:17AM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

how do you see the score line in this match wisey ?

7-6 4-6 7-6 6-3

you?

Jul 14, 2023 -- 11:14AM, wisewords wrote:

Daniil isn't a simple heel. he's complex

he's a cool heel, and has lots of fans, but he is still a heel.

Jul 14, 2023 -- 11:20AM, Des Pond wrote:

I don't watch a lot of tennis, but I don't quite get why people would dislike Medvedev. He seems perfectly likeable and reasonable to me.

He's very charming in interviews but often behaves like a jackass to the umpire and crowd during matches.

looks like Alcaraz will win the set without too much fuss. Even though he hasn't looked particularly special.

Jul 14, 2023 -- 11:27AM, SamuelMertensBertens wrote:

Jul 14, 2023 -- 5:20PM, Des Pond wrote:I don't watch a lot of tennis, but I don't quite get why people would dislike Medvedev. He seems perfectly likeable and reasonable to me.He's very charming in interviews but often behaves like a jackass to the umpire and crowd during matches.

Ah, ok, didn't know that, but there is enough forced bonhomie and "super-niceness" in the game as as far as I'm concerned

Joker will dismantle poor Carlos on the grass

Alcaraz will likely get his revenge if they meet at the US though

yeah, it's nice with contrasts.

Jul 14, 2023 -- 11:25AM, wisewords wrote:

you?

3 - 0 king carlos !

Nastia beat Sara Errani 6-1 6-0 in the QF today

We're getting the dream final, Alcaraz future GOAT v Current GOAT, as the Yanks would say, currently 1-1 in the series

too easy for Alcatrash

Surely Del Potro is a quicker forehand !

Best two players by a fair way best final for sure

Think Jock has to much on grass but I've been wrong many many times before

A composed Novak isn't losing. Would need to seriously under perform to be dethroned.

Carlos is doing this so easily

Jul 14, 2023 -- 10:54AM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

Carlos will be loving how far back Daniil stands.

Daniil is cannon fodder

Toad you should coach ATP

I could help a lot with tactics and mentality, 100%

Daniil looks ready to concede opposed to fight.

Jul 14, 2023 -- 12:15PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

Daniil looks ready to concede opposed to fight.

holds then breaks

told you all, 30 slams  this guy

I'm surprised Medvedev got as far as he did. His game is not suited at all to this surface.

What a final in prospect. The new kid on the block against the old master.

Djokovic's price very similar to his price before a ball was hit. Just shows you how much Alcaraz has impressed.

Should be an absolute belter !!! Can't wait.

Kei Nishikori beaten by local waiter

1.14            £27.08
1.15            £13,583.68
1.16            £6,564.08

Anyone else feeling rather underwhelmed at the prospect of this women's final?

Guessing I'm not the only one, as this place is pretty dead for a GS finals day...

I'd maybe like to back Vond as some value, but cannot face the thought of the crowd and BBC constantly screaming in joy everytime Ons wins a point...

Jul 15, 2023 -- 5:20AM, stu wrote:

Anyone else feeling rather underwhelmed at the prospect of this women's final?Guessing I'm not the only one, as this place is pretty dead for a GS finals day...

yeah, nothing about Marketa, but unseeded player without an enthralling personality in the final isn't exactly the recipe for an exciting final. Hope Ons can finally win a Slam, but there's a chance she's super nervous and has a Sabine type performance.

I made a post for the men's final. If someone wants to make one for the women's go ahead, but I'm not feeling there's much interest so I didn't bother.

I find the men's final a very interesting match up to watch for sure - not sure I find anything very interesting on the women's sadly.

I made a thread to discuss the women's final

If they hadn't closed the roof for that Jess vs Marketa match ...

BJK just said Vondorousa!

Pavs won her SF against Martincova, who retired at 1-0 down in the 2nd set

US Open spot clinched for Pavs! (I think)

https://twitter.com/sabinelisicki/status/1680390530117632002

poor Sabine

Pavs lost the final in straight sets to edy's fave Arantxa Rus

Rus winning a WTA125

Mboko wins W60 Saskatoon without dropping a set, taking down Birrel, Vickery and Bektas. It was a W25 when she won it last year.
She's not the 16 year old getting the headlines but give it a bit of time.

Hseih is champion !

well done Hsieh & Bara!

Jul 16, 2023 -- 1:58PM, Journeyman wrote:

Mboko wins W60 Saskatoon without dropping a set, taking down Birrel, Vickery and Bektas. It was a W25 when she won it last year.She's not the 16 year old getting the headlines but give it a bit of time.

*not Birrell, who lost to Failla (possibly jetlagged as she played a final in Europe a few days prior)