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Blimey, it's that time of the year already again!
I am glad to interest you in a new edition of the long-running tennis subforum tradition and game.
HOW TO PLAY:
Rule changes from RG: None
Pick a player each day. If your player wins, you advance to the next day and get to pick again. If your player loses, you are out. Each player can only be chosen once. The picks continue every day until only one person is left, everyone has been eliminated, or the tournament has finished. That's the basic rules already.
Some additional rules:
- picks have to be submitted before the relevant match starts
- in case of a retirement, all picks count as long as 1 ball of the match has been played
- you can freely change picks as long as the match of your original pick has not started, nor has the match of your new pick
- if your pick withdraws before the match and you do not submit a new pick for the day yourself, then the last to start eligible favourite (I will use average odds on tennisexplorer.com) of the day is automatically entered for you. Eligible means player that had not been picked yet on a previous day. This is done because it cannot be expected from people to be around all day.
- in case of (long) rain delays and carried over matches, you can not pick from these matches on the next day. I.e. a match is first scheduled on Monday, there is rain and the match never starts on Monday. It is then rescheduled for Tuesday. You are not allowed to pick from that match. If this situation arises, I will try to post the ineligible matches.
At the end, glory, lots of forum cred, and an entry into the competition's Hall of Fame awaits the ultimate winner(s). The Hall of Fame can be found at:
https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/thread/view/94186/30945693/suicide-pool-winners-throughout-the-years
One more thing: Two of the rules are currently in the process of possibly being changed. The target is to change them in time for the US Open, if change is desired by those that play. For input regarding that, I opened an extra thread some time ago. If you have an opinion, you are very welcome to participate in this thread:
https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/thread/view/94186/31805061/mouse-trap-trophy-rule-questionnaire
I hope that covers everything. If there are any additional questions, feel free to ask.
I am glad to interest you in a new edition of the long-running tennis subforum tradition and game.
HOW TO PLAY:
Rule changes from RG: None
Pick a player each day. If your player wins, you advance to the next day and get to pick again. If your player loses, you are out. Each player can only be chosen once. The picks continue every day until only one person is left, everyone has been eliminated, or the tournament has finished. That's the basic rules already.
Some additional rules:
- picks have to be submitted before the relevant match starts
- in case of a retirement, all picks count as long as 1 ball of the match has been played
- you can freely change picks as long as the match of your original pick has not started, nor has the match of your new pick
- if your pick withdraws before the match and you do not submit a new pick for the day yourself, then the last to start eligible favourite (I will use average odds on tennisexplorer.com) of the day is automatically entered for you. Eligible means player that had not been picked yet on a previous day. This is done because it cannot be expected from people to be around all day.
- in case of (long) rain delays and carried over matches, you can not pick from these matches on the next day. I.e. a match is first scheduled on Monday, there is rain and the match never starts on Monday. It is then rescheduled for Tuesday. You are not allowed to pick from that match. If this situation arises, I will try to post the ineligible matches.
At the end, glory, lots of forum cred, and an entry into the competition's Hall of Fame awaits the ultimate winner(s). The Hall of Fame can be found at:
https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/thread/view/94186/30945693/suicide-pool-winners-throughout-the-years
One more thing: Two of the rules are currently in the process of possibly being changed. The target is to change them in time for the US Open, if change is desired by those that play. For input regarding that, I opened an extra thread some time ago. If you have an opinion, you are very welcome to participate in this thread:
https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/thread/view/94186/31805061/mouse-trap-trophy-rule-questionnaire
I hope that covers everything. If there are any additional questions, feel free to ask.
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For all those that are new: I am collecting the picks from two former forumites, aaronh and GRANTCKING, off-site and relay them on here so they can also play.
GRANTCKING day 1: RBA
aaronh: FAA
GRANTCKING day 1: RBA
aaronh: FAA
Day 1 summary
Advanced to day 2:
Anubis8 - Hurkacz
dukeofpuke - Musetti
edy - Musetti
mesmerised - Rublev
n88uk - Musetti
Platini - Musetti
SamuelMertensBertens - Musetti
wisewords - Musetti
To be decided:
Blencathra - Shapovalov
GRANTCKING - RBA
Journeyman - Coric
Out:
aaronh - FAA
Not yet started matches from Tuesday's order of play that are not eligible as a day 2 pick:
Harris - Barrere
Advanced to day 2:
Anubis8 - Hurkacz
dukeofpuke - Musetti
edy - Musetti
mesmerised - Rublev
n88uk - Musetti
Platini - Musetti
SamuelMertensBertens - Musetti
wisewords - Musetti
To be decided:
Blencathra - Shapovalov
GRANTCKING - RBA
Journeyman - Coric
Out:
aaronh - FAA
Not yet started matches from Tuesday's order of play that are not eligible as a day 2 pick:
Harris - Barrere
Just remembered this must be posted whenever Tommy Paul is selected
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjY8HvpNu6o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjY8HvpNu6o
Ok...decision: For day 3 and day 4 (for now, but on day 5 the tournament will hopefully have caught up) we will pick according to the draw. Which means:
women:
Day 3 - pick a player that plays a R2 match (top/1st half of the draw). This can be the matches that are already determined and will probably be on tomorrow's order of play, but you can also e.g. pick Osorio against Masarova if you think Osorio will first beat Cocciaretto tomorrow and then (likely on Thursday) play against and beat Masarova. The pick in that scenario is strictly for Osorio to beat Masarova. Her just beating Cocciaretto in her first round match does not advance you to day 4. If you want to do this and pick someone who has not even finished their first round, maybe provide a backup pick incase they lose their first round. Say:
"Day 3: Osorio (if she wins her first round match), otherwise Vika"
Day 4 - as day 3, but bottom/2nd half
draw: https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/draws/ladies-singles
men:
Day 3 - pick a player that plays a R2 match (bottom/2nd half of the draw)
Day 4 - as day 3, but top/1st half
draw: https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/draws/gentlemens-singles
If you got questions, please ask!
women:
Day 3 - pick a player that plays a R2 match (top/1st half of the draw). This can be the matches that are already determined and will probably be on tomorrow's order of play, but you can also e.g. pick Osorio against Masarova if you think Osorio will first beat Cocciaretto tomorrow and then (likely on Thursday) play against and beat Masarova. The pick in that scenario is strictly for Osorio to beat Masarova. Her just beating Cocciaretto in her first round match does not advance you to day 4. If you want to do this and pick someone who has not even finished their first round, maybe provide a backup pick incase they lose their first round. Say:
"Day 3: Osorio (if she wins her first round match), otherwise Vika"
Day 4 - as day 3, but bottom/2nd half
draw: https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/draws/ladies-singles
men:
Day 3 - pick a player that plays a R2 match (bottom/2nd half of the draw)
Day 4 - as day 3, but top/1st half
draw: https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/draws/gentlemens-singles
If you got questions, please ask!
You are probably aware and just did it to get it done, mes, but of course the day 3 and day 4 pick do not have to be made together.
not sure how this works
ive got de minaur round 1 playing today so do i have to play round 2 playing today if so Hubert Hurkacz round 2 playing today
ive got de minaur round 1 playing today so do i have to play round 2 playing today if so Hubert Hurkacz round 2 playing today
Yes, you need to play a R2 match from the men's bottom half of the draw for day 3. Hurkacz is a valid pick for that.
It might lessen edy's stressload a bit if people post when they're knocked out at least till things normalise.
eg My second day pick Giron won but then my first day pick lost
So I am out
eg My second day pick Giron won but then my first day pick lost
So I am out
Day 3 summary
Advanced to day 4:
Nobody
To be decided:
Anubis8 - Hurkacz, Jarry (tbd), Musetti (tbd)
Blencathra - Shapovalov, Murray, Hurkacz (tbd)
dukeofpuke - Musetti, de Minaur (tbd), Hurkacz (tbd)
edy - Musetti, Mannarino, Hubi (tbd)
mesmerised - Rublev, Murray, Hurkacz (tbd)
n88uk - Musetti, Jarry (tbd), Hurkacz (tbd)
Platini - Musetti, Murray, Hurkacz (tbd)
SamuelMertensBertens - Musetti, Jarry (tbd), Hurkacz (tbd)
wisewords - Musetti, Dimitrov, Hurkacz (tbd)
Freshly out:
GRANTCKING (RBA)
Journeyman (Coric)
Advanced to day 4:
Nobody
To be decided:
Anubis8 - Hurkacz, Jarry (tbd), Musetti (tbd)
Blencathra - Shapovalov, Murray, Hurkacz (tbd)
dukeofpuke - Musetti, de Minaur (tbd), Hurkacz (tbd)
edy - Musetti, Mannarino, Hubi (tbd)
mesmerised - Rublev, Murray, Hurkacz (tbd)
n88uk - Musetti, Jarry (tbd), Hurkacz (tbd)
Platini - Musetti, Murray, Hurkacz (tbd)
SamuelMertensBertens - Musetti, Jarry (tbd), Hurkacz (tbd)
wisewords - Musetti, Dimitrov, Hurkacz (tbd)
Freshly out:
GRANTCKING (RBA)
Journeyman (Coric)
a 2nd round match from the top/1st half of the gentlemen's draw for day 4
Jul 5, 2023 -- 7:46PM, Journeyman wrote:
It might lessen edy's stressload a bit if people post when they're knocked out at least till things normalise.eg My second day pick Giron won but then my first day pick lost So I am out
I found this very nice and appreciate it really. Sadly for me no other active forum poster besides you lost.
Day 4: Zverev to win his R2 match, if he doesn't make it that far I'm going with Rune.
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Day 4: Zverev irregardless of opponent. If he loses against Brouwer in the first round, then Vesely.
Doing things like this has the great potential of creating a situation of your backup pick winning first and your real pick losing afterwards.
Doing things like this has the great potential of creating a situation of your backup pick winning first and your real pick losing afterwards.
Holger to win his R2 match against Arnaldi/RBA of course.
Frances Tiafoe if this counts as ive Hurkacz playing now still no idea where the matches are at
Day 4 summary - the backlog is clearing
Advanced to day 5:
Anubis8 - Hurkacz, Jarry, Musetti, Dimitrov
Blencathra - Shapovalov, Murray, Hurkacz, Dimitrov
dukeofpuke - Musetti, de Minaur, Hurkacz, Tiafoe
n88uk - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Tiafoe
Platini - Musetti, Murray, Hurkacz , Tiafoe
To be decided:
edy - Musetti, Mannarino, Hubi, Zverev (tbd)
mesmerised - Rublev, Murray, Hurkacz, Norrie (tbd)
SamuelMertensBertens - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Zverev (tbd)
wisewords - Musetti, Dimitrov, Hurkacz, Rune (tbd)
Freshly out:
Nobody
Advanced to day 5:
Anubis8 - Hurkacz, Jarry, Musetti, Dimitrov
Blencathra - Shapovalov, Murray, Hurkacz, Dimitrov
dukeofpuke - Musetti, de Minaur, Hurkacz, Tiafoe
n88uk - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Tiafoe
Platini - Musetti, Murray, Hurkacz , Tiafoe
To be decided:
edy - Musetti, Mannarino, Hubi, Zverev (tbd)
mesmerised - Rublev, Murray, Hurkacz, Norrie (tbd)
SamuelMertensBertens - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Zverev (tbd)
wisewords - Musetti, Dimitrov, Hurkacz, Rune (tbd)
Freshly out:
Nobody
The schedule is still lagging, so...again we look at the draw - please pick a R3 match from the 2nd half of the draw for day 5.
https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/draws/gentlemens-singles/2/2
https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/draws/gentlemens-singles/2/2
Day 5 summary
Advanced to day 6:
Anubis8 - Hurkacz, Jarry, Musetti, Dimitrov, Bublik
Blencathra - Shapovalov, Murray, Hurkacz, Dimitrov, Sinner
dukeofpuke - Musetti, de Minaur, Hurkacz, Tiafoe, Bublik
edy - Musetti, Mannarino, Hubi, Zverev, Rublev
n88uk - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Tiafoe, Shapovalov
Platini - Musetti, Murray, Hurkacz , Tiafoe, Rublev
SamuelMertensBertens - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Zverev, Bublik
wisewords - Musetti, Dimitrov, Hurkacz, Rune, Shapovalov
Freshly out:
mesmerised (Norrie)
Advanced to day 6:
Anubis8 - Hurkacz, Jarry, Musetti, Dimitrov, Bublik
Blencathra - Shapovalov, Murray, Hurkacz, Dimitrov, Sinner
dukeofpuke - Musetti, de Minaur, Hurkacz, Tiafoe, Bublik
edy - Musetti, Mannarino, Hubi, Zverev, Rublev
n88uk - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Tiafoe, Shapovalov
Platini - Musetti, Murray, Hurkacz , Tiafoe, Rublev
SamuelMertensBertens - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Zverev, Bublik
wisewords - Musetti, Dimitrov, Hurkacz, Rune, Shapovalov
Freshly out:
mesmerised (Norrie)
I believe we are on track again, so....the order of play can be used again.
no one cares about the men's anyway, it's all about the Women's
Day 6 summary
Advanced to Middle Sunday - everybody:
Anubis8 - Hurkacz, Jarry, Musetti, Dimitrov, Bublik, Rune
Blencathra - Shapovalov, Murray, Hurkacz, Dimitrov, Sinner, Tsitsipas
dukeofpuke - Musetti, de Minaur, Hurkacz, Tiafoe, Bublik, Medvedev
edy - Musetti, Mannarino, Hubi, Zverev, Rublev, Tsitsipas
n88uk - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Tiafoe, Shapovalov, Rune
Platini - Musetti, Murray, Hurkacz , Tiafoe, Rublev, Tsitsipas
SamuelMertensBertens - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Zverev, Bublik, Rune
wisewords - Musetti, Dimitrov, Hurkacz, Rune, Shapovalov, Alcaraz
Advanced to Middle Sunday - everybody:
Anubis8 - Hurkacz, Jarry, Musetti, Dimitrov, Bublik, Rune
Blencathra - Shapovalov, Murray, Hurkacz, Dimitrov, Sinner, Tsitsipas
dukeofpuke - Musetti, de Minaur, Hurkacz, Tiafoe, Bublik, Medvedev
edy - Musetti, Mannarino, Hubi, Zverev, Rublev, Tsitsipas
n88uk - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Tiafoe, Shapovalov, Rune
Platini - Musetti, Murray, Hurkacz , Tiafoe, Rublev, Tsitsipas
SamuelMertensBertens - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Zverev, Bublik, Rune
wisewords - Musetti, Dimitrov, Hurkacz, Rune, Shapovalov, Alcaraz
Day 7 summary
Advanced to the second week:
Anubis8 - Hurkacz, Jarry, Musetti, Dimitrov, Bublik, Rune, Sinner
dukeofpuke - Musetti, de Minaur, Hurkacz, Tiafoe, Bublik, Medvedev, Sinner
Platini - Musetti, Murray, Hurkacz , Tiafoe, Rublev, Tsitsipas, Sinner
SamuelMertensBertens - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Zverev, Bublik, Rune, Sinner
Freshly out:
Blencathra (Bublik)
edy (Shapovalov)
n88uk (no pick)
wisewords (Bublik)
Advanced to the second week:
Anubis8 - Hurkacz, Jarry, Musetti, Dimitrov, Bublik, Rune, Sinner
dukeofpuke - Musetti, de Minaur, Hurkacz, Tiafoe, Bublik, Medvedev, Sinner
Platini - Musetti, Murray, Hurkacz , Tiafoe, Rublev, Tsitsipas, Sinner
SamuelMertensBertens - Musetti, Jarry, Hurkacz, Zverev, Bublik, Rune, Sinner
Freshly out:
Blencathra (Bublik)
edy (Shapovalov)
n88uk (no pick)
wisewords (Bublik)
Blimey, do we have a winner? We do with Dimitrov and Tsitsipas having fallen today! Anubis8 adds the men's Wimbledon title to his men's Australien Open title earlier this year and grabs at least the temporary the lead for most titles on the season. Both GRANTCKING and Journeyman can still equal him with a women's title this week. A thrilling US Open ensues either way.
Congratulations Anubis8 and thank you for playing!
Congratulations Anubis8 and thank you for playing!
I am indebted to Holger Rune, firstly for coming from behind in that final set tie-break against Davidovich Fokina when I picked him, and then today for knocking out Dimitrov.
Thanks edy for running this.
Thanks edy for running this.
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