Gorgeous Göerges v Serena Goat Williams

Been following Goerges for a while, definitely an improved game in the past 12 months.  On her at 80's to win Wimbledon at the beginning of the tournament and just hope she does herself justice today.  Camilla Giorgi showed that Serena is beatable this year, she just couldn't sustain it.  Julia seems to thrive when going to 3 sets and she owes me nothing this tournament and will be having a pop at her at 10/3.

Some improvement after going out if the first round 5 years in a row. Can't see her getting past Serena though unfortunately.

has there ever been two Germans in a final against each other, ATP  or WTA ?

I can't remember any.

There must of been on the tour, so I presume you are talking about slams?

yeah in slams

Wimbledon 1991 - Stich beat Becker.

those graphics they showed a few minutes really highlighted how much Serena is dictating, previous matches Goerges was playing much closer to the baseline or within, here she's pushed a few meters back, which she does to everyone.

The only time recently I've seen anyone completely dominate Serena and pusher back was Muguruza in the French Open final 2014.

You know it's bad when winning a point on your own serve in a slam SF gets a sympathetic cheer from the crowd..

what a strange ending to the match, breaks then turns to pot on serve immediately

Was a pathetic standard to end that match all round really - sums up women's version of tennis to me, like watching two amateurs mostly whenever you watch the game.

Stu, I think a big issue is that a lot of the players who seemed to have the potential to step up and be the new household names in Womens tennis over the last five years haven't done so.

Keys is an obvious underachiever, Bouchard and Lisicki reached Wimbledon finals with attractive positive playing styles but have dropped off, Osaka has flattered to deceive, Garcia has lost momentum, and so forth. This dearth is highlighted by the first three slams of the year potentially going to Wozniacki, Halep and Kerber, previously held up as the three poster girls for retrieval based, weaponless, 'grinder' tennis. Womens tennis really needs some fresh star power and it needs it fairly fast.

I've seen a few women tennis players I really rate as sportspeople - Graff at her killer best for example. But mostly I find the game appalling for the general sporting standard, akin to watching women's cricket or similar.

The top elite are just about barely watchable, but so they should be in a GS final.

I find it ironic they were early feminist pioneers demanding huge amounts of money too.