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By:
jin_kazz
When: 28 Aug 16 23:00
real kiki
By:
caramba
When: 28 Aug 16 23:14

Aug 28, 2016 -- 8:28PM, edy wrote:


Aug 28, 2016 --  7:42PM, aaronh wrote:Jimmie48 Photography‏@JJlovesTennisChuckle of the day: A group of kids almost stormed on court, wanting to „meet Maria Sharapova“.It was Witthöft’s practiceoh please, Carina is way cuter than Sharapova


no

By:
aaronh
When: 28 Aug 16 23:15
538 USO predictions

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-us-open-tennis-predictions/
By:
caramba
When: 28 Aug 16 23:15
Hamburgers didn't listen to Carina Cry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRas76FwpMk
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Aug 16 23:16
Duan 80%-20% Sakkari

Plain
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Aug 16 23:18
How do 538 come up with their muggy models. They always seem to publish these models that are just obvious bs.
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Aug 16 23:20
I'm going to guess their ELO system is flawed somewhere (I use something like this too, it's how I listed my top 10 a week ago). Their ELO system has Golubic as the 24th best player in the world Laugh.
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Aug 16 23:21
Oh no, they just don't have them listed in order like I thought, there in some muggy order for her to be listed so high.
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Aug 16 23:22
Her ELO is still ridiculously high though. She's rated around the same as Doi and Begu etc.
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Aug 16 23:22
Danielle Collins    WC    1496
Ellen Perez    WC    1500
Yafan Wang    Q    1440
Antonia Lottner    Q    1450
Kayla Day    WC    1483

Confused
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Aug 16 23:22
Golubic 44 if I counted right
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Aug 16 23:23
She's rated as far better than Jelena Ostapenko. Whatever they are using for their ELO is very flawed as other people's ELO's will give you a far better and more accurate list.
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Aug 16 23:24
1500 is a standard ELO if there's not enough data I'm guessing
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Aug 16 23:24
Why is Sakkari rated so bad yet Ying-Ying like she's a world beater.
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Aug 16 23:25
she beat Genie that 1 time Happy
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Aug 16 23:27
That is standard Aaron yes for 1500 to be normal. They have a lot of mugs overrated compared to what you normally see.

I think it's typical for example for only Serena to be 21xx. And no-one else even above 2000. Vika/Sharapova will be say around 1950 right now. Then Kerber/Halep hover around late 18xx, early 19xx
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Aug 16 23:30
If Vika and Sharapova were in a very strong period they will hover over 2000. Both peaked over 2000. But both weren't at their peak when they last played. I think Serena peak is high 22xx.

Their figures seem very diff to normal though.

538 are known for muggy models though. Their World Cup 2014 model had Brazil over 50% chance of winning I think Laugh.
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Aug 16 23:38
The Sabine one is laughable too. 59% vs Putintseva.

Kvitova 79% vs Ostapenko (both their ELO's look out to me). How is Ostapenko rated so badly, she even beat some big names, they have her rated about the same as the likes of Ying-Ying, and worse than a load of average mugs (even Konjuh bizarrely is rated higher).

Ostapenko is 1779, Yet the following are 1800+: Razzano, King, Golubic, Friedsam, Konjuh, Kucova, Sevastova, Brengle, Peng, Giorgi, Larsson, Flipkens and many other players who are clearly worse than Ostapenko.

Ostapenko is ranked about 90 in whatever model they are using anyway.
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Aug 16 23:40
Ostapenko is 64th
By:
aaronh
When: 28 Aug 16 23:41
you can sort by ELO

its set up initially by something else
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Aug 16 23:52
ELO always has 2 ultimate flaws anyway imo.

#1 Is no injury or inactivity decay
#2 Is players who were once at a high level don't decay quick enough when losing and stay horrendously overranked for too long.

Because in theory ELO is meant to measure something like chess so the first is never considered and the second point someone's level isn't expected to just drop off a cliff. Obviously in tennis your actual level is fluctuating more, but something like chess if you were once good you should theoretically still good and if someone far worse beats you it's seen as more of a boon for them.
By:
n88uk
When: 28 Aug 16 23:56
The 1st point is pretty much impossible to tackle. You can in theory implement decays but it's just impossible to come up with a workable system for this. Because reality is you just don't know. There's little guide points to go on.

I guess the obvious future examples. How do you price up Vika, Sharapova in their first matches back, and reality is nobody knows, you can only guess.

So you just have to use your brain. General rule is back bigger prices and steer well clear of short prices.

Clijsters pretty much got priced like a top 10 player within 1 tournament on her return.
By:
jin_kazz
When: 28 Aug 16 23:57
clijsters is back?
By:
n88uk
When: 29 Aug 16 00:00
In 2009.

Clijsters was like 3.1 to beat Bartoli first match back who was ranked about 15 at the time iirc. Was a gift if you knew.

But market was so quick to to move in on Clijsters. Because Clijsters ended up being favourite vs Safina in the QF's who was ranked either 1 or 2 at the time (and lost).
By:
n88uk
When: 29 Aug 16 00:01
One match was basically enough for the market to say she was one of the best players in the world.
By:
n88uk
When: 29 Aug 16 00:34
Sabine Lisicki: Rough year but a top five serve always makes her a threat.
By:
n88uk
When: 29 Aug 16 00:35
No way does Sabine even have a top 5 serve anymore.
By:
caramba
When: 29 Aug 16 00:39
http://www.thelocal.de/20160826/naked-swimmer-hospitalized-after-angler-hooks-his-penis
ouch Scared
By:
caramba
When: 29 Aug 16 00:40
http://www.thelocal.de/20160826/merkels-party-mate-wants-to-get-rid-of-karl-marx-streets
,
By:
n88uk
When: 29 Aug 16 00:42
Wertheim's dark horse pasture is actually just name every player the public might have heard of rather than dark horses.

Because Wozniacki, Bouchard, Jankovic, Lisicki... The mix in a few youngsters to introduce which he has done with Konjuh.

How is Kvitova vs Ostapenko not mentioned as R1 to watch, because no Americans are involved? (he mentions Serena vs Makarova, Errani vs Rogers, Osaka vs Vandeweghe)
By:
jin_kazz
When: 29 Aug 16 01:28
mystics trying to bust
By:
jin_kazz
When: 29 Aug 16 01:39
from 43-20 into 55-47 in 3rd quarter

wnba fixx0rz!
By:
tof
When: 29 Aug 16 11:18
your mother's  hairy O !!
By:
jin_kazz
When: 29 Aug 16 12:18
.
By:
jin_kazz
When: 29 Aug 16 12:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBXZwdHbpAI
By:
edy
When: 29 Aug 16 12:59
Ladies and Gentlemen,

make your 2016 suicide tennis picks in the shiny and glorious new threads for them.
By:
jin_kazz
When: 29 Aug 16 13:01
woohoo
By:
aaronh
When: 29 Aug 16 13:06
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8feb2a512e4b44cf8718b838e23f1d83/lightning-strike-kills-more-300-reindeer-norway?

Sad
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By:
aaronh
When: 29 Aug 16 13:07

Aug 29, 2016 -- 12:59PM, edy wrote:


Ladies and Gentlemen,make your 2016 suicide tennis picks in the shiny and glorious new threads for them.


knew my laziness would lead to someone else bothering Love

By:
n88uk
When: 29 Aug 16 13:09
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