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Purely going by the h2h this could be as one sided as the stats suggest, 12-0 Nadal, 26-0 in sets, having said that 3 of the last 4 sets were won on a tie breaker, it's still a terrible match up for Wawa as well as he's been playing the past 2 years not a player like Novak to hit quicker and acute angles to bother RN forehand it just feeds straight into it, on the upside for Wawa the the new plexicushion is not bringing out Nadal's best game with below par matches against both Dimi and Nishi, back Wawa to take a set for the first time if you're not trading. 3-1 Nadal.
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Jinx thread.
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You've obviously put your house on Rafa. I am Nadal's biggest fan, but I fear his run against federer will come to an end. I was always pro Rafa pre tourni (see my posts), however his chances are slim versus Federer. I fear Federer will just aim towards his forehand side and exaberate the lister even deeper.
Nonetheless rafa may well win, but his hand injury will worsen vs Warinka making at LAY OF NADAL at 2.0 OUTRIGHT a perfect bet to a perfect Australian Open so far for me. |
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He's got to get past a resurgent federer first even though the head to head favours nadal strongly if he plays like he played against dimitrov a player he should be blowing away he's got no chance three doubles in one game against dimitrov nothing on his balls at all not the true nadal dimitrov missed so many chances in that match nadal was awful a straight lay at even money or lay to trade actually the layers are out because he has drifted to 2.06 I'm unconvinced and have taken him on if he does beat roger it will be a very tight match could go five sets but for me this is rogers best chance to win another major in a long time.
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Well, if it did become a war of attrition and went the distance I know which player I'd be backing.
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GREEDISGOOD
I am Nadal's biggest fan, but I fear his run against federer will come to an end. I was always pro Rafa pre tourni (see my posts), however his chances are slim versus Federer. I fear Federer will just aim towards his forehand side and exaberate the lister even deeper. Nonetheless rafa may well win, but his hand injury will worsen vs Warinka making at LAY OF NADAL at 2.0 OUTRIGHT a perfect bet to a perfect Australian Open so far for me. Your jinx worked, surely you didn't think he'd lose. |
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I think Greedisgood, has filed for bankruptcy, no word from him today
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would appear that greed is.. not good
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Amazing how people disappear though, at least have the balls to say you were wrong.
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26-0 in sets
For a men's GS final that surely has to be the most one-sided record ever? |
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Greedisgood - how much did you lose laying Rafa outright?
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VAMOS 14 and counting
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If you consider H2H, Grandslam final apperance and Ranking there is only one player you can back here. To make it interesting just had a look at the last years draw, Djokovic played an epic 5 setter againt Stan and in the next round beat Berdy 3-1 before winning the final. This year Wawrinka has done exactly the same, a long 5 setter against Nole and a 3-1 win againt Berdych http://www.cricketscore.com/draw/SI695IzR/A7yvQom7/#draw
This is not enough to back a player, but just saying  |
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Came through few arguments between the users about Stan having set points in his previous matches against Nadal, in their last meeting at WTF Stan had a set Point opportunity in the second set, look at the point by point details here http://www.cricketscore.com/match/hSSi8Fjf/#point-by-point;2
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I'm getting seriously concerned for greedisgood
 over 24 hours and still no word.mnbfrankel, I think WaWa's fitness can't be questioned, Stan is one player Nadal won't be able to wear down in that department. |
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Nadal Highlights:
• "70-70 Club" on serve - 70% 1st serves in play - 75% 1st serve points won - winning 62% on 2nd serves as well - saved 19 of the 27 break points faced • Solid returning - especially against 2nd serves (56% won) - won 30% of return games • Big forehand weapon - 87 forehand winners Wawrinka Highlights: • Huge 1st serve - 62 aces - 81% 1st serve points won - top speed 221 kmh (137 mph) • Very effective when he can attack the net (75% won), but less so when he finishes the point from the baseline (49% won) • Forehand has been his dominant shot from the backcourt (91 winners) - backhand, while spectacular at times, has not been quite so steady (47 winners but 92 unforced errors). For additional insight, visit www.ibm.com/sports. Rafael Nadal Stanislas Wawrinka 32 Aces 62 11 Double Faults 17 30% Unreturned Serves 34% 70% 1st Serve % 58% 75% 1st Serve Points 81% 62% 2nd Serve Points 53% 8 Broken 8 27 Break Points Faced 21 83 Games Served 92 90% Service Games Held 91% 205 kmh/127 mph Broken 221 kmh/137 mph 77% Returns in Play 72% 34% 1st Return Points Won 29% 56% 2nd Return Points Won 48% 25 Breaks of Serve 18 56 Break Points 45 45% Pct. Converted 40% 84 Return Games Played 92 30% Return Games Won % 20% 87 Forehand Winners 91 78 Forehand Unforced Errors 90 31 Backhand Winners 47 48 Backhand Unforced Errors 92 179 Winners 249 142 Unforced Errors 203 70 of 97 Net Points Won 87 of 116 72% Net Points Won 75% 54% Baseline Points Won 49% 67 Games Lost 84 1 Sets Lost 4 5 of 13 (39%) Challenges Won 5 of 24 (21%) 13:56 Time on Court 13:46 |
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• Very effective when he can attack the net (75% won), but less so when he finishes the point from the baseline (49% won)
I believe Fed had a similar % won over the tournament at net too but much lower vs Nadal |
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Interesting to read Federer admitting that he has to change his entire game to beat Nadal, and that playing murray/nadal is like night and day, 32yo and he clocks on.
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Tipped on tw@tter, Wawa to win a set at Korals 1.8
What is the point in 'Nadal to win a set' markets be up at 8 for the last match and glad it will be over, it kills your body clock. |
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Nadal 1.18 here, 1.2 with the TAB
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1.22 now rhino, will be trying to get a bit on that let's see how much they will take.
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I don't have a TAB account
 Can't recall them having a bigger price than BF on something like this ever... |
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Nice to see the GOAT back down under bringing the trophy in.
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It is unusual these days, they used to have excellent prices about 4/5 years ago on tennis.
By the time I called they would'nt take anything and now they are down to 1.18. |
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robin soderling
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Interesting start
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Stan showing absolutely no nerves. Yet. This might be a contest after all.
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WAWAWEEWA
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one way traffic
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crowd is so behind Wawrinka
have laid Nadal at 1.18 and aint cashing back in till its levels you devils 1.33 is shoite for a break,1.38 after hold ...market in love with raffa and wont budge even if he looses first 2 imo |
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Wow this has all the makings of a cracking final
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taking the forehand on the rise with his bh.
DO HIM STAN that's the way. |
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Welcome to the Warwinka train!
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On fire.
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the tactics are entirely right, but there are two problems.
i. the execution has to be consistently superb. ii. rafa's been found out like against djokovic (rome/monte carlo 2011)and adapted by going to the fh more, so both wings will have to stand up. |
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stunning tennis. world no 1 getting blown off the court
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fortunately i've said it before. at his best, he has more than enough for any of the top 4, even nadal on clay.
all between the ears. |