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I don't see a match thread (lots of spam but no match thread 
or I am just too blind) so I am opening one.
Nadal a logical favorite here but his odds have been steadily rising - which is fully justified. Murray has shown enough to be considered a realistic threat for the Nadal that we have seen here so far. 1.6 or so would feel right for a prematch position.
Big question is if Murray can sustain the level of agression he needs to outlast Nadal on grass. Crowd will support him but it also adds pressure, and he has been wobbly in such situations in the part.
Lets see how it goes.
or I am just too blind) so I am opening one.Nadal a logical favorite here but his odds have been steadily rising - which is fully justified. Murray has shown enough to be considered a realistic threat for the Nadal that we have seen here so far. 1.6 or so would feel right for a prematch position.
Big question is if Murray can sustain the level of agression he needs to outlast Nadal on grass. Crowd will support him but it also adds pressure, and he has been wobbly in such situations in the part.
Lets see how it goes.
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The commentators can't even see that Murray is the one that has bottled the match and Nadal has done nothing special.
starting to think joker can win as Rafa, apart from JDP, beat no-one yet
man vs mouse, tiger tim would've done better than this.
wildone? djok has beaten off form tsonga and 18 yr old tomic...
the stupid thing is just then when he has a crack he is in with a chance
tallpaul you can only beat who is front of you.
point is joker missing in action, Fed retiring slowly and murray with the faires, no wonder nadal has been racking up the gs.
point is record not as impressive as some make out
point is joker missing in action, Fed retiring slowly and murray with the faires, no wonder nadal has been racking up the gs.
point is record not as impressive as some make out
Murray having a temper tantrum now like the whinging idiot he is.
he wins a couple of points and back to 13/1 lol. as if Nadal would give up even after a rebreak.
nadal still so clinical great winning record in slam finals and record on grass is awesome considering is a 'clay courter'
what A ONE-DIMENSIONAL WEAPON!!
As soon as a ball lends on nadal's FH that's an ultimate point!?!?
As soon as a ball lends on nadal's FH that's an ultimate point!?!?
keeps drifting while he just "almost broke back". At this rate he will be 1,3 if he breaks back..
yyyy you champion djokovic yet he won't hit many winners v nadal and not a great serve so he will beat nadal by taking away his forehand advantage?
Well grass plays like clay these days, different grass, different balls, all made for rallies since everyone complained about the big servers back in the 90's, but it was much better back then imo.
agree pierre i loved serve volley v baseline agassi v ivanisevic
what a shame he decided to go down a break in this set before deciding to start playing again 
Just layed Nadal to win this set will green up after Murray breaks him.
Hard to make an error when Murray is constantly making them
can't see why the outright market has djok at 2.5. beaten nadal 4 times this year, incl. twice in straights on hard. evens generous to nadal imo
John Lloyd trying to blame the length of the match. That has nothing to do with it whatsoever. He's beaten Nadal in five set matches before. He's just not good enough on a grass court, and mentally inept.
i would like him to win a slam .just to bug that toffy nosed piece of sh!t henman
nadal makes few errors where as djokovic has gone walkabouts in couple of games so far i think nadal in 4 sunday. Both very good at the net but can't see either offering themselves as a target
he doesn't think of ways to be nadal in the match does he.
just shakes the head in defeat and moves on lacking belief.
plays like someone who has been coached following instructions without knowing what he can and cannot do, and can't think for himself.
needs to hit out and find the rebel in him imo.
take the dummy out of the mouth and let the kid walk
just shakes the head in defeat and moves on lacking belief.
plays like someone who has been coached following instructions without knowing what he can and cannot do, and can't think for himself.
needs to hit out and find the rebel in him imo.
take the dummy out of the mouth and let the kid walk
talk about mental blocks though- nadal developing one vs. djok it seems. if he has any physical problems, they'll be exacerbated by running a marathon chasing down djok's shots as well.
when the going gets tough diva Murray goes missing whereas Nadal steps up a few gears
At least he's decided to turn up again in the last few games. Just went awol for 2/3'rd's of the match.
I still think the prob is mental strength and attitude for Murray. We can all see he has the ability.
That there is his problem. Takes on (correctly) a risky shot, misses it then criticises the decision so goes back into mug mode.
murray is range biound imo.
doesn't know what he can and cannot do. has to be let out of the cot brake a few rackets etcc.. and touch the untouchable, get a relief pill and know he is still in the land of the living, get comfortable and move on[;)]
doesn't know what he can and cannot do. has to be let out of the cot brake a few rackets etcc.. and touch the untouchable, get a relief pill and know he is still in the land of the living, get comfortable and move on
[;)]
murray could easily be in one flew over the cuckoo's nest with jack nicholson. Looks mad at the moment
he doesn't think of ways to be nadal in the match does he.
just shakes the head in defeat and moves on lacking belief.
plays like someone who has been coached following instructions without knowing what he can and cannot do, and can't think for himself.
In my opinion, Murray's doing his best - give him a break Wildone
just shakes the head in defeat and moves on lacking belief.
plays like someone who has been coached following instructions without knowing what he can and cannot do, and can't think for himself.
In my opinion, Murray's doing his best - give him a break Wildone
haha I could never back murray, if he was a horse he would have a timeform squiggle by his name
won a slam in '08. has been saving 0-40's since he got on tour
when have there ever been 3 more dominant players than fed djok and nadal? i'm 32 and have only seen sampras and agassi and even then sampras never won the french and agassi once?
nadalsfan, he is doing his best.
but he needs to snap out of the restraints built around him.
plays like a trapped player imo. needs to break out and play the beautiful game , get loose like the brazilians
bottom line is jis game is manufactured, he has ability but it is not natural or real IMO
but he needs to snap out of the restraints built around him.
plays like a trapped player imo. needs to break out and play the beautiful game , get loose like the brazilians
bottom line is jis game is manufactured, he has ability but it is not natural or real IMO
Murray best break now I got massive green on him for this set.
Nadalsfan, as bruce lee would say, Murray needs to break from the confines of style.
He needs to flow like water and find his own style like Nadal using his left hand etc...
He needs to flow like water and find his own style like Nadal using his left hand etc...
Anyone think Nadal's missus knows the rules?
Seems to ask a lot of questions and clap at odd times.
Seems to ask a lot of questions and clap at odd times.
quite possibly the most pathetic effort I've ever seen in a slam semi. He should be ashamed of that effort, utterly ashamed.
£££££££££££££££££££££££££££SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS tytytyty mr.nadal
good luck for sunday
good luck for sunday
The poor sod who catches those sweatbands will need disinfectant
Nadal's missus knows andy probably and she is clapping for him... poor andy[:(]
Only one winner until Muggy missed that open chance in the 2nd set - would of had 2 break points
Murray's still young Boris?? Well he ain't as young as Tomic
that was some EASY money..... literally after the 1st set and a few games in you knew it would be 3-1.... EASYYYYY
Wildone,
I have no doubt Murray's got a lot of talent - but I don't think everyone realises potential, as you and I probably have not and will not... :)
I have no doubt Murray's got a lot of talent - but I don't think everyone realises potential, as you and I probably have not and will not... :)
Did anyone else see Big suze from Peep Show? Shes yummy 
Murray traded at 1.52... after that it was a complete 1.01 train in the other direction
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