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Jason Bourne
02 Jan 10 20:43
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Been betting on outrights for a while now, with some decent success but some muggish bets along the way.

I'll keep all my outright picks to this thread throughout the year, making 2 or 3 pre-tournament picks (depending how many tournaments there are the specific week). If the opportunity arises, i'll green out later in the week but my greening out record is pretty shabby on the whole.

The target is to pick a top player, a lively outsider and whatever else takes my fancy. Hopefully I keep my discipline throughout the year.

I appreciate that outright betting can be a mug's game but I made profit last year so there's money to be made if one keeps a cool head.

All comments and 'ffs' welcome ;)
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Report HARRY22 November 27, 2010 9:20 PM GMT
lol bet of the century
Report Almagro is a no no November 27, 2010 9:23 PM GMT
bet of the century, as Harry knows, was Murray to beat Nadal US Open Semi 08
Report HARRY22 November 27, 2010 9:25 PM GMT
[;)]  what about cinicinnati 28/1 [;)]
Report HARRY22 November 27, 2010 9:25 PM GMT
[;)]
Report Almagro is a no no November 27, 2010 9:27 PM GMT
Laugh was going to mention that one but got sucked in by the 7/2? in that semi
Report HARRY22 November 27, 2010 9:30 PM GMT
i thought bet of the century was cilic to beat del potro in oz [;)]
Report HARRY22 November 27, 2010 9:32 PM GMT
what times the final on?
Report Almagro is a no no November 27, 2010 9:37 PM GMT
about five I think. The programme starts at three on Sky. The doubles will prob be on first though
Report HARRY22 November 27, 2010 9:42 PM GMT
they should scrap doubles for tv coverage...boring as feck...that last point from fed,thats what he will be doing to nadals serve tomorrow
Report Almagro is a no no November 27, 2010 9:43 PM GMT
I'll be backing Nadal. Federer has hit some brilliant shots today but he's made errors as well, something Nadal doesn't do. Reckon Nadal will outlast him
Report Almagro is a no no November 27, 2010 9:46 PM GMT
didn't see your post then. Yeah he'll be all over the serve. He should've destroyed him in Aus last year. Still not sure how he lost that final. Nadal had nine lives that day
Report stringerbell November 27, 2010 9:46 PM GMT
here we go, bet of the year is on. rafa wont lie down like djok did. bring it on
Report HARRY22 November 27, 2010 9:46 PM GMT
one thing u will get from fed though is solid 1st serves...im going with roger...crusied through to the final...
Report HARRY22 November 27, 2010 9:50 PM GMT
of course he wont lie down v fed...7-4 h2h off clay....fed doesnt have the pressure of it being a slam...the way he has played this week he deserves to win...he has dismantled every player in quick time.
Report LazyRamper November 27, 2010 9:56 PM GMT
5-4 off Clay, Goodall forgot to deduct the matches Federer's won on Clay.
Report HARRY22 November 27, 2010 9:58 PM GMT
if fed keeps the quality of tennis he has played this week he is going to win
Report mythical prince November 27, 2010 10:06 PM GMT
agreed, unopposable in this form, also the format suits him perfectly, at this stage of his career he can hardly hold nadal over a long match, but short sharp bursts are what he's all about
Report HARRY22 November 27, 2010 10:09 PM GMT
Murray would of won today if he had a half decent forehand to attack rafa...fed is serving superbly, a lot of people shocked at rafas price though.
Report stringerbell November 27, 2010 11:11 PM GMT
well everyone you have just see the daftest price ever to appear on this site - 2.44 on nadal to beat fed. so stunned by that price i had to lie down, and then get up and put more money on. still 2.28 , utterly moronic price. fed looks amazing but hasnt faced anyone playing anywhere near the standard he will face tomorrow. djoker was pathetic, no self belief, i feel rafa might be a little different.

on another note, what a fascinating match in terms of oz prices too
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 1:49 PM GMT
here we go boys, the bet of the year, a truly startling price. 2.36 on nadal to beat fed.

good luck all
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 1:50 PM GMT
oh and by the way it will prob be three sets
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 3:37 PM GMT
Nick are you seething today as i picked the 1-2 in the hennessey and youre donkey finished nowhere [;)]
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:23 PM GMT
note: post not for harry

nadal looks knackered, showed in that first game he is going to pick it up more and try to dictate, will have to be the god we all know he is to get back in this
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:24 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

excuses
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:25 PM GMT
not for harry

never seen him so heavy legged
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:26 PM GMT
it was only 1 break nicholas....tired my arse..fed is taking the game away from him...listen to what tim henman is saying...he knows more than u...and petch's best mate Grin
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:27 PM GMT
he doesnt look heave legged,..its just youre biased opinion which is evident through every bet u place
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:29 PM GMT
nick ur a funny guy
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:29 PM GMT
harry, i am not talking to you ffs, shut up, you're boring

henman - known to be the worst commentator in the history of tennis

fed playing amazingly, backhand cross court v effective, but raf looks v heavy legged. not opinion, FACT
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:31 PM GMT
well nobody else is here ffs so ur stuck with me Grin  so when he breaks serve and makes it 1set all he wont be heavy legged anymore???
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:33 PM GMT
i am saying he looks hesvy legged ffs. if he runs it off then great. but right now he does....just the way it is, sorry if you cant see it
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:34 PM GMT
he will run it off...just wait and see....he is rafa nadal
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:35 PM GMT
it's only you on this thread isnt it harold

i'm going to ring the samaritans, talk to them about the match, get more sense
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:35 PM GMT
see break time...he wont go away nick
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:36 PM GMT
stop being so silly nick...the match has been short,..he is a machine ffs...and henman know more than u btw..he has played against these players u havent
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:36 PM GMT
course he wont - he is infinitely superior, just worried he isnt feeling well enough to ram home his undoubted superiority
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:37 PM GMT
this game is so so key.
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:37 PM GMT
its the last tournie of the year nick...he will leave everything out there...adrenalin will see him through..
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:38 PM GMT
nothing to do with the length of the match, stop being ignorant
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:39 PM GMT
lets be having 3 sets...
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:41 PM GMT
fed falling over...dont see that too often
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:41 PM GMT
it's to do with lactic acid and i get the impression nadal isn't as finely tuned for this week physically as he would be for oz. he's had 5 weeks off, just an impression.

in a way it would be nice if fed could win as then we would get better odds on nad for oz, though it wuld hurt me financially today
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:41 PM GMT
are u looking to cut any losses if this goes 3?
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:42 PM GMT
i think this will be the final in oz..only injury will prevent it imo
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:43 PM GMT
petch talking about nadal trying to conserve energy, when does he ever do that

i have a grand on nad, will only lay off if he goes odds on
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:44 PM GMT
key for oz is the draw, who has murray in semi
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:46 PM GMT
HARRY22 Joined: 03 Jun 06
Replies: 16588 28 Nov 10 18:23 
i wouldnt  say free money...one lapse from fed and its 1-1..has to keep this level as nadals wont drop

feds level has dropped and we look like going 3..not rocket science is it...

why do u think its key who has murray nick? fed or nadal...whats yer thinking?
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:47 PM GMT
i thought fed deserved to be fav but he was too short..still think he is too short going to a 3rd..dont think its going to come down to energy in the legs..just who is more clutch
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:49 PM GMT
did you hear that harry, from cash

'there you go proof that something is worrying nadal, he didnt even walk to that one. something isnt right'

thats from cash harry, why is it always just you that doesnt get it
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:49 PM GMT
pat cash, he won wimbledon about 5 years before you were born
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:52 PM GMT
he is playing superb...cash  Laugh
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:53 PM GMT
cash knows as much as u lol....1 set all and he aint heavy legged..what a load of crap..feds level dropped and nadal does what he always does..punsishes anyone who drops their form
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 6:54 PM GMT
too ignorant harry, you are literally too ignorant

i'm off, see you later
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:55 PM GMT
nickf**kface Joined: 18 Jan 05
Replies: 4473 28 Nov 10 18:49 
pat cash, he won wimbledon about 5 years before you were born

u complete mug..he won wimbers 1 more time than i did...  keep up
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 6:57 PM GMT
looks really heavy legged doesnt he LaughLaugh  nick u need the off season rest...you are like a sheep..listen to petchs mates and these commentators and u agree..
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 7:01 PM GMT
like a 4 year old
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 7:02 PM GMT
heavy legged rafa would not be competing on this surface today...ur full of ****..just looking for an excuse if he loses...pathetic
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 7:10 PM GMT
harry, you are such a royal c unt.

you have asked for this. you literally ruin every interesting discussion with your juvenile attempts at oneupmanship, and you add absolutely nothing of interest to the forum. i now understand why everyone says you are unbearable - i have tried to defend you but no longer

i said he was heavy legged in the first set, before cash said it, but he is saying it repeatedly, that he looks wrong. i am not trying to cover myself, just making an observation, i will lose a grand whether i say it or not. anyne who understands tennis can see it is the case, that he is physically not quite right, but you wont get it, because to be frank you have no idea at all. the fact he is in it is down to fed dropping his level and his total mental strength and indefatigability. if he can win or push fed close when operating at 80 per cent physically it actually reinforces my belief that he has the indian sign over fed.

anyway, why i waste a minute of my day talking to a complete illiterate imbecile....more fool me

go and irritate someone else you little p rick
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 7:13 PM GMT
I have asked for this lol.
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 7:15 PM GMT
their u go again..operating at 80% how the feck do u or these commentators know what he is operating at or how he is feeling physically...its pathetic
Report dlarssonf November 28, 2010 7:23 PM GMT
nickf**kface Joined: 18 Jan 05
Replies: 4476 28 Nov 10 19:10 
harry, you are such a royal c unt.

you have asked for this. you literally ruin every interesting discussion with your juvenile attempts at oneupmanship, and you add absolutely nothing of interest to the forum. i now understand why everyone says you are unbearable - i have tried to defend you but no longer

i said he was heavy legged in the first set, before cash said it, but he is saying it repeatedly, that he looks wrong. i am not trying to cover myself, just making an observation, i will lose a grand whether i say it or not. anyne who understands tennis can see it is the case, that he is physically not quite right, but you wont get it, because to be frank you have no idea at all. the fact he is in it is down to fed dropping his level and his total mental strength and indefatigability. if he can win or push fed close when operating at 80 per cent physically it actually reinforces my belief that he has the indian sign over fed.

anyway, why i waste a minute of my day talking to a complete illiterate imbecile....more fool me

go and irritate someone else you little p rick



hypocrite!!!!!!!!
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 7:25 PM GMT
Laugh
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 7:25 PM GMT
i agree....
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 7:25 PM GMT
only so much i can take
Report dlarssonf November 28, 2010 7:26 PM GMT
now you now the feeling, next time you try stick you oar in - Hypocrite
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 7:27 PM GMT
Laugh
Report WhiteCafu November 28, 2010 7:27 PM GMT
Thread should be renamed the Nick and Harry show
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 7:28 PM GMT
2011 thread will be up soon...lets make a fresh start...shall we be friends dlarssonf [:p]
Report dlarssonf November 28, 2010 7:29 PM GMT
No problem being friends with anyone!!!!
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 7:30 PM GMT
rafa v fed oz final 2011...should be good stuff
Report stringerbell November 28, 2010 7:31 PM GMT
dlarsson, all i would say is that all you did was repeat some childish insult over and over, it wasnt even about tennis with you and the little twallop. it was effing ridiculous. i am trying to make points about tennis and that's all i ever wanted to do. if that is hypocritical then fine

yeah whitecafu, i am embarrassed to have let him get to me, it's what he wants. anyway, no more, i'm outta here...
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 7:32 PM GMT
nick u have been saying ur outta here for the last 2 hours Grin
Report dlarssonf November 28, 2010 7:41 PM GMT
nickf**kface Joined: 18 Jan 05
Replies: 4478 28 Nov 10 19:31 
dlarsson, all i would say is that all you did was repeat some childish insult over and over, it wasnt even about tennis with you and the little twallop. it was effing ridiculous. i am trying to make points about tennis and that's all i ever wanted to do. if that is hypocritical then fine

yeah whitecafu, i am embarrassed to have let him get to me, it's what he wants. anyway, no more, i'm outta here...



no nick you butted in on something that was going on before this theard had even begun.  As far as I  am concerned save it, you showed your true colours, hypocrite
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 7:42 PM GMT
congrats to every punter who had a nice 2010.... even u dlarssonf......and also to nick even though his end of season BET OF THE CENTURY nadal went badly wrong.....hats off to nick for sticking with nadal at the us open...that for me was tip of the season when every one else had doubts [;)]Cool  bl jimmy69 with youre fed lay for the o2...1st time we got a tip from u and it lost Laugh  and finally to rob the brown noser bantam for becoming nicks long lost brother and lover [:p][:p]LoveLove
Report Rob_The_Bantam November 28, 2010 10:14 PM GMT
What were the prices on Fed/Rafa match odds immediately after the second set, please?
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 11:04 PM GMT
think rafa was around 2.3  not 100%
Report RMB © November 28, 2010 11:11 PM GMT
More like 2.18/2 for Wafa. Looked a fair price at the time.
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 11:11 PM GMT
wasnt sure rmb...thought the market was still strong on fed...il take yer word for it
Report jimmy69 November 28, 2010 11:12 PM GMT
You forgot to mention my lays which lost Harry...Laugh
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 11:21 PM GMT
you forgot to mention them also Laugh
Report jimmy69 November 28, 2010 11:37 PM GMT
They were all mentioned in the same post Harry...or can't you read?Laugh
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 11:43 PM GMT
jimmy69 Joined: 11 Apr 01
Replies: 11665 21 Nov 10 15:27 
Nick...I have layed Fed, Nadal and Soderling outright...

2 made the final..outstanding lays Laugh
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 11:44 PM GMT
how much u lose?
Report jimmy69 November 28, 2010 11:46 PM GMT
Have you ever made a book Harry? I guess not...
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 11:48 PM GMT
yes in nursery....and u r going to tell me youre book was all green nobody loses on betfair
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 11:48 PM GMT
ok jimmy tell us how this great book looked pre final?
Report jimmy69 November 28, 2010 11:49 PM GMT
It was a losing oneCry
Report jimmy69 November 28, 2010 11:51 PM GMT
...but I won't be losing any sleep over itLaugh
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 11:52 PM GMT
hope not jimmy....if you do lose sleep you know its time to give it up...are you going on vacation now the season is over?
Report jimmy69 November 28, 2010 11:53 PM GMT
Nah mate...a 365 layer I am...
Report jimmy69 November 28, 2010 11:54 PM GMT
All sorts of sports to lay losers on (hopefully!) in December...Laugh
Report HARRY22 November 28, 2010 11:57 PM GMT
i got the impression u were just a tennis man
Report jimmy69 November 28, 2010 11:59 PM GMT
Lord no...I'll lay anything if the price is rightLaugh
Report HARRY22 November 29, 2010 12:06 AM GMT
just havent seen u anywhere but tennis forum...apart from chit chat...jack of all trades....do you play the horses?
Report jimmy69 November 29, 2010 12:09 AM GMT
Yes poorly...I only lay odds on favsCry
Report HARRY22 November 29, 2010 12:12 AM GMT
lost touch with the game tbh....il play if i get a good tip...which i did the other week for hennessey [;)]

now if you want to get into fixing this is the sport to discuss Laugh
Report jimmy69 November 29, 2010 12:15 AM GMT
Nah...it's not as bent as everyone makes it out to be. Tennis probably has more problems.
Report HARRY22 November 29, 2010 12:25 AM GMT
you really think that?...what about these trainers who try keeping the weight down for upcoming races etc...its as if they put them in the race just for a prep knowing they arent gonna win.   suppose ur right...the way llodra threw that tie break v montanes proves it [;)]
Report McChicken_Sandwich November 29, 2010 2:12 AM GMT
Wen't to the 02 yesterday for the semis, very very good, pretty gutted by Murray loss from a supporters point of view.

Shifted most outright profit to Rafa at 2.45ish but managed to miss match with ridiculous train delays... fancied a punt Cry Very good year for me anyway.
Was only a matter of time before the extreme annoyance of Harry wore nick down....lol
Report Jason Bourne December 12, 2010 12:13 PM GMT
Nadal to win WTF = LOSS
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