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By:
Rob_The_Bantam
When: 12 Nov 10 12:58
Yorkshire phrase, got starred out.  Old cóck.  Not meant as an insult fwiw.

So...if you don't think he'd win it roughly 4 in 60, and the current price is about 15/1, why aren't you laying it?
By:
dlarssonf
When: 12 Nov 10 12:59
HARRY22 Joined: 03 Jun 06
Replies: 15911 12 Nov 10 12:50 
lol make the game playLaugh  and u have based that on what? jealousy that you still read online blogs 24/7 looking for a way to winGrin ive been doing this for a longtime dlarssonf whilst u have been looking thru blogsLaugh


Self praise is no praise
By:
Jason Bourne
When: 12 Nov 10 13:04
Feel like I can stop a train at the minute, so my picks today which you should all lay [;)]
Roddick will out-think Sod
Fed will outclass Melzer
Llodra vs Davy will come down to a couple of points here or there in a TB, just shade Llodra
Murray will labour past Monf
By:
HARRY22
When: 12 Nov 10 13:16
why arent u backing it?  Do i have to lay every player,team i dont think will win?  im sure we all limit ourselves each day,what do u think dlarssonf,what do the blogs tell u Laugh
By:
dlarssonf
When: 12 Nov 10 13:20
I think you are an aftertimer that can't make the game pay.Cry  Next question
By:
Rob_The_Bantam
When: 12 Nov 10 13:24
I'm not backing it because I think the price is spot on, there's no edge to be gained from backing it.  On the other hand, you think it's ludicrously short.  No, you don't have to lay every player/team if you think they won't win, but if Davy has no chance as you claimed earlier, surely this is an amazing lay for you?
By:
HARRY22
When: 12 Nov 10 13:25
i KNOW you are a mug who DEFINETLEY cant make the GAME pay Cool

il continue to make as long as people still believe the king is still alive when we all know he is deadCool

Why would i need this to pay anyway?  You try youre hardest to try and find a way to win, as youre shelf stacking job doesnt allow you to do what you want with the luxury of pleasing yourself, you have to report in at work earning national minimum wage,enjoy,you cant cut and paste so il take a guess its not £20 p/h Laugh
By:
HARRY22
When: 12 Nov 10 13:28
ok rob, just for u il lay davyCool  do u think every other price is spot on? or is it just a coincidence its only davys?
By:
dlarssonf
When: 12 Nov 10 13:29
what a tool you areLaugh
By:
McChicken_Sandwich
When: 12 Nov 10 13:30
Roddick looks awful.

Dear god I hate his tennis.
By:
Jason Bourne
When: 12 Nov 10 13:30
It's horribly effective though
By:
HARRY22
When: 12 Nov 10 13:31
its the truth dlarssonf...ur a mug
By:
McChicken_Sandwich
When: 12 Nov 10 13:32
It's ****, pure ****. His rallying isn't effective, it's ****. He's hugely mentally strong though.
By:
HARRY22
When: 12 Nov 10 13:32
what price did u take on davy mcchickenGrin
By:
stringerbell
When: 12 Nov 10 13:33
it's strange isnt it, even though the surface is so fast, this match looks strangely slow.

wll come down to the odd point here and there, but this form wont be scaring fed, or even dav or llodra
By:
Rob_The_Bantam
When: 12 Nov 10 13:34
Harry, at first glance, Fed looks too short and Murray too long, everything else about right, although I'm not an expert at pricing up outrights by any means.  I can't have Fed at odds on against Melzer, most likely Murray and the eventual finalist.  No doubt he'd be favourite in every match, but I'd be surprised if odds on at this stage for the tournament represented good value.  Maybe McChicken can enlighten us, he seems more in the know on these things.

How much have you laid Davy for?
By:
stringerbell
When: 12 Nov 10 13:35
ah mchick, you on dav too? think he can beat llodra? tough call isnt it
By:
HARRY22
When: 12 Nov 10 13:37
I didnt think mcchick liked outright markets

thats fair enough rob...at least you respond with some kind of analysis,i do respect u for that as u dont bite lol.,,,dlarssonf on the other hand LaughLaugh  get more feedback from my labrador
By:
McChicken_Sandwich
When: 12 Nov 10 13:38
Not on davy, no.

If Llodra maintains same level on serve he'll win today, Davy's first serve return has been terrible for a while.
By:
Jason Bourne
When: 12 Nov 10 13:38
Course it's effective lol
By:
HARRY22
When: 12 Nov 10 13:38
i havent yet rob...old chinese proverb, never make a decision on an empty stomach[:x]
By:
McChicken_Sandwich
When: 12 Nov 10 13:39
And Fed is too short, Murray is a bit big in the Outrights...... yes.
By:
HARRY22
When: 12 Nov 10 13:39
like the rest of his game
By:
stringerbell
When: 12 Nov 10 13:39
if llodra plays like he did yesterday he can win the whole thing

djok and dav 2 of the best returners in the game. if he can stuff them both, dont imagine he'll be too bothered by the winner of this dross on now...
By:
jimmy69
When: 12 Nov 10 13:39
That's down to the balls they are playing with this week Nick. They decelerate through the air quite quickly and apparently the arena is quite cool too which doesn't help. That's why everything appears in slow motion... and the camera angle too.
By:
McChicken_Sandwich
When: 12 Nov 10 13:40
Jason, his rallying style isn't at all effective in this matchup on this court vs a decent Soderling.

His serve bps down has been effective.... he's still ****.
By:
Jason Bourne
When: 12 Nov 10 13:41
He's beaten Soderling twice this year playing this way.
By:
stringerbell
When: 12 Nov 10 13:41
thats interesting jim, you think they are trying to slow conditions down through the balls and the temperature? - because you'd have thought they would want them lightning quick for llodra....
By:
HARRY22
When: 12 Nov 10 13:42
nickf**kface Joined: 18 Jan 05
Replies: 4049 12 Nov 10 13:35 
ah mchick, you on dav too? think he can beat llodra? tough call isnt it

i asked this knowing fine well he wasnt [;)] i think he has made himself clear what he thinks of the russian,thinks he is finished
By:
HARRY22
When: 12 Nov 10 13:43
jimmy69 Joined: 11 Apr 01
Replies: 11545 12 Nov 10 13:39 
That's down to the balls they are playing with this week Nick. They decelerate through the air quite quickly and apparently the arena is quite cool too which doesn't help. That's why everything appears in slow motion... and the camera angle too.

afternoon jimbob,...defo the camera angle....beats that net being in front of the camera from the other courtLaugh
By:
jimmy69
When: 12 Nov 10 13:44
They'll probably turn the heating up when Llodra comes on courtLaugh
By:
McChicken_Sandwich
When: 12 Nov 10 13:44
I don't think he's finished.

I don't think he'll ever reach level he did back end of last year again, no.

But with some wins, fitness and confidence he'll become a good player again.
By:
HARRY22
When: 12 Nov 10 13:44
if he did the 60s would look good [;)]
By:
stringerbell
When: 12 Nov 10 13:45
i dunno i think rod has been less effective since he changed his grip on his forehand and started hitting with more top spin, lost the ability to flatten it out which was such a weapon.i know he won indian wells but it aint pretty this baseline hacking....and of course it doesnt work against fed, who handles his serve fine and mixes up the pace to bamboozle rod. sod isnt capable of the same pace fluctuations, which is why this style may well be good enough to beat the swede
By:
stringerbell
When: 12 Nov 10 13:46
interesting rod is 2.2 at 5-4 up....some people taking the view sod looks more comfortable. i aint so sure
By:
Jason Bourne
When: 12 Nov 10 13:46
Soderling been the much more impressive in the match so far, which invariably means he'll lose the TB
By:
jimmy69
When: 12 Nov 10 13:48
Sod definietly looks the more comfortable but it's going to come down to the lottery of the tie break.
By:
McChicken_Sandwich
When: 12 Nov 10 13:49
nickf**kface 12 Nov 10 13:46
interesting rod is 2.2 at 5-4 up....some people taking the view sod looks more comfortable. i aint so sure


Roddick winning 25% of rallies and has faced bps in 3 service games.
By:
HARRY22
When: 12 Nov 10 13:49
Shocked
By:
stringerbell
When: 12 Nov 10 13:49
thats what i mean, rod is a big tb player...
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