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Okay, time for the king of specials...

THE 2023 JUNGLE LINEUP
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Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 10:16 PM GMT
Best value hth ever?
Report five leaves left December 10, 2023 10:18 PM GMT
Only if he wins Grin
Report Cider December 10, 2023 10:18 PM GMT
when do they turn him off
Report TheBorg December 10, 2023 10:19 PM GMT
Fav upsets I've been on the right side of

Denise Welsh CBB 2012
Spoty, Lewis Hamilton beating fav Rory

Denise went to 7/1 in h2h. Lewis 10/1 before close.

Please let Tony be number three
Report five leaves left December 10, 2023 10:20 PM GMT
Martin Love
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 10:21 PM GMT
Yeah lewis a cracker for me
Report Cider December 10, 2023 10:22 PM GMT
AJ in spoty, 1.01 for t3 iirc
Report five leaves left December 10, 2023 10:22 PM GMT
Rydian? Just before my time
Report Cider December 10, 2023 10:22 PM GMT
not a hth tbf
Report Cider December 10, 2023 10:24 PM GMT
lol Sam has no plans to speak to bellow again if there's no cameras
Report bearcub December 10, 2023 10:25 PM GMT
Much better interview for Tony, deserves the win
Report Cider December 10, 2023 10:25 PM GMT
there was at least one big reverse in dancing on ice. involving the gymnast ?
Report Cider December 10, 2023 10:25 PM GMT
Beth ?
Report Angela Rebecchi December 10, 2023 10:28 PM GMT

Dec 10, 2023 -- 10:16PM, GeorgeBrush wrote:


Absolute knock out for tone on sm


Wasn't that the same for Ferne vs Vicky and market was identical to this one. Money buying on Vicky/Sam.

Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 10:29 PM GMT
Yep, you just couldn't stop ferne drifting. But she came out third
Report Danzaa December 10, 2023 10:29 PM GMT
Danny Miller vs Simon Gregson 2021 IAC

Suspicious as hell that one
Report bearcub December 10, 2023 10:30 PM GMT
Teddy T is trending

and for some reason so is turd
Report Angela Rebecchi December 10, 2023 10:30 PM GMT

Dec 10, 2023 -- 10:29PM, GeorgeBrush wrote:


Yep, you just couldn't stop ferne drifting. But she came out third


SM had Ferne well on top but the market said Vicky can't be beaten, like Sam, and she won !

Report bearcub December 10, 2023 10:31 PM GMT
Nella Love
Report Cider December 10, 2023 10:31 PM GMT
Ferne did the trial with the live spider. made no difference to the pv, actually lost ground
Report five leaves left December 10, 2023 10:32 PM GMT
booo wd winners Cool
Report Angela Rebecchi December 10, 2023 10:32 PM GMT

Dec 10, 2023 -- 9:55PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:


Bellew winnning would be integrity. He was 2.5 before the voting and is 7.0 in the final 2 despite a brilliant final trial and great final week in general. Just because there was a small blip before calling 3rd doesn't really mean anything overall imho


LoveLoveLoveGrinGrinGrin

Report Angela Rebecchi December 10, 2023 10:33 PM GMT
1.07        £497.54    £36.88
1.08        £20.00    £464.00
1.09            £1,706.57
1.1        £6.00    £454.22
1.11            £2,620.16
1.12        £0.14    £1,940.54
1.13            £3,633.71
1.14        £2.00    £11,501.98
1.15        £123.92    £14,756.80
1.16            £5,952.20
1.17            £3,115.64
1.18            £2,336.88
1.19            £3,150.15
1.2            £4,988.76
1.21        £100.00    £1,046.98
1.22            £1,102.47
1.23            £963.08
1.24            £4,055.06
1.25            £7,318.62
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 10:34 PM GMT
1.07 is pretty mental like
Report ProSniper December 10, 2023 10:35 PM GMT
One of the worst winners ever. Pathetic and highly gullible public fooled once again.
Report five leaves left December 10, 2023 10:35 PM GMT
I hope all of those who voted for him have Sam screaming in their ears for an eternity Grin
Report TheBorg December 10, 2023 10:35 PM GMT
Pity they stopped posting the vote%
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 10:36 PM GMT
A victory for the insiders, money buyers and casuals

And army seems to be dead again :(
Report Cider December 10, 2023 10:36 PM GMT
Yes the most irritating winner of this thing, even trumps gino.
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 10:37 PM GMT
Not as bad as vicki imo
Report Angela Rebecchi December 10, 2023 10:38 PM GMT
Sam is a nice lad. Tony the deserved winner though no doubt. Vicki was a diabolical winner.
Report Cider December 10, 2023 10:41 PM GMT
Do we know? he assumed a character for the whole series. gets credit for pulling it off i suppose.
Report Lifter December 10, 2023 10:41 PM GMT
Important to identify who the casual viewer will like, not who we like. Screwwd me in previous years. Actually, the ones I don't like tend to win
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 10:41 PM GMT
Sam was always less marmite than this place thought. Still, i was mainly on bellew at the death
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 10, 2023 10:42 PM GMT
Well done winners.

Good series for betting,

Dull viewing bar final 3,fred and Nella.
Report five leaves left December 10, 2023 10:42 PM GMT
All good fun as always, anyway Happy Thankfully strictly and spoty likely to slightly better results Grin
Report SuperSniper December 10, 2023 10:47 PM GMT
Farage had 3 weeks of negative edits and still finished 3rd, it’s gonna be Boris Johnson on next year for more of the same
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 10:50 PM GMT
Ant and dec have headed him off at the pass.

Plus it seemed farage reduced the ratings.  They won't do it again
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 10:51 PM GMT
Btw ... negative edits? That's just him
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 10, 2023 10:51 PM GMT
Johnson is a cross between Sam and Nigel....
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 10:57 PM GMT
He wouldn't pass the physical fortunately
Report Angela Rebecchi December 10, 2023 10:58 PM GMT
I imagine with his clumsy nature that he would be a serious hazard to himself and others ! Also likely to scare off all the critters !
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 11:01 PM GMT
Rishi more likely. Could sleep on a leaf and actually do combat with a cockroach on equal bodyweight terms
Report Cider December 10, 2023 11:03 PM GMT
Good evening people, well done early Sam backers Cool. Over to the important stuff now!
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 11:10 PM GMT
Enjoy the latest farage defeat
Report Cider December 10, 2023 11:16 PM GMT
1st or 3rd was perfect for me as I loaded up on Sam - Bellow SFs. And had some of the AP tickets for Farage.
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 11:17 PM GMT
I just mean on a personal level lol
Report stu December 10, 2023 11:21 PM GMT
About only contestant I got right on this series was Farage - backed him for top 3 (landed) laid him most heavily for the win (landed).

If that was all I'd done, would have been a much better overall result for me this series Laugh
Report Cider December 10, 2023 11:24 PM GMT
ok well as I mentioned a few times, I felt he was a bit disappointing on the show. third was a decent showing considering that, and he was bashed by the production and script 90% of the time.
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 11:26 PM GMT
I don't get that... That was just farage, that's him being him
Report stu December 10, 2023 11:26 PM GMT
His vote wasn't relying on show performance though really was it - which is why he could bumble around doing not very much and stroll into the top 3.
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 11:27 PM GMT
No bits of him flying about like superman were edited out
Report Cider December 10, 2023 11:34 PM GMT
It was two fold. He got the worst treatment. Body shaming for example. Even the exit interview was just loaded questions from tweedle dumb and dumber.
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 11:39 PM GMT
What about all the severely patronising life lessons and other chit chat?

Do we just edit all of that out?
Report Cider December 10, 2023 11:43 PM GMT
No, you'd have balance. Nella was mostly vile, Fred was mostly vile, compare the soft soaping they got to the third place finisher. But I don't consider that especially notable, as it was inevitable.
Report GeorgeBrush December 10, 2023 11:51 PM GMT
Most people would say Nella and Fred suffered far worse from the edit. Farage was just exactly what i expected, no worse, no better
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 10, 2023 11:52 PM GMT
I think they toned down his bad treatment as that simply
fed the vote for Nigel story.

Would love to see voting figures.
Report Dannydogdoo97 December 11, 2023 11:04 AM GMT
Third Place - Sam 43.35%   Tony 30.87%   Nigel 25.78%
Report Dannydogdoo97 December 11, 2023 11:04 AM GMT
H2H -  Sam 56.64%    Tony 43.36%
Report stu December 11, 2023 11:07 AM GMT
Quite well clear of each other in both top 2 and winner battles then - wasn't much room for doubt there.

Nigel a clear 5% behind, and Tony well behind Sam in their battle, despite a small gap closing late on.
Report stu December 11, 2023 11:08 AM GMT
Actually, he didn't really close at all, so Sam was always safe...
Report Roofe39 December 11, 2023 11:08 AM GMT
exchange move before third place elimination was bizarre Dannydogdoo! Seeing those votes makes it even weirde!
Report Dannydogdoo97 December 11, 2023 11:09 AM GMT
Yes, interesting to see what could have happened had the H2H vote been open for a full day maybe, given he was able to close the gap in a short time frame.
Report stu December 11, 2023 11:11 AM GMT
yes, sorry my maths a bit unclear on that - he did close slightly from the split vote after Nigel I suppose...
Report Roofe39 December 11, 2023 11:13 AM GMT
Also completely agree Cider, Anthony and Declans questioning of Nigel at the end was loaded, obviously didn't matter by then but they had a clear agenda against him.
Report GeorgeBrush December 11, 2023 11:51 AM GMT
Yeah, not really close, a defeat for facey insta and even the sun poll.  Likely most of us too in terms of largest green
Report five leaves left December 11, 2023 12:01 PM GMT
And a defeat for those whose politics is based on targeting minorities Cool
Report armagnac December 11, 2023 12:08 PM GMT
was farage always in front of Tony then, till josie went ? and only then tony got in front, by then Sam had already won.
Report Roofe39 December 11, 2023 12:39 PM GMT
you'd assume so, farage was never in bottom 2 unlike Tony
Report five leaves left December 11, 2023 12:41 PM GMT
Not sure we'll ever know. Tony may well have been ahead of Nigel for a number of votes. What baffles me is the pesky insiders were happy to lay Tony @ 100 before Farage was called 3rd and not Farage @ 6. They're clearly not very bright. Assuming they exist
Report Roofe39 December 11, 2023 12:48 PM GMT
yeh that exchange move was bizarre, was pointing to tony being first out
Report armagnac December 11, 2023 12:48 PM GMT
lol did see that flash up fig, thought he was gone. Sad to say but does look like there were insiders all along, it was just hard to accept for me coz of the way farage's price was kept down. was it insiders ? was it his team ? i'd say a combination of both working separately. which all mean't there was only brief glimpses in time mostly during the edits where big tony greens were ever able to take profit.
those waiting and not acting inplay looking for the optimum lay never had a chance, even in the H2H
Report Cider December 11, 2023 12:51 PM GMT
If you're anti open boarders, I'd say that the legal UK population is in the minority compared to the rest of the world. Based on rudimentary maths.
Report Cider December 11, 2023 12:51 PM GMT
#borders
Report Cider December 11, 2023 12:56 PM GMT
I don't imagine much Josie vote shifting to Farage at all, something we'll never know, or how much she had from the bottom. But looks like it would have been pretty tight. Farage vote shifted to Tony quite a bit.
Report five leaves left December 11, 2023 1:00 PM GMT
Yep about a 2% swing to Tony in the h2h

58.4% to 41.6% in the 3 way vote

H2H -  Sam 56.64%    Tony 43.36%
Report Cider December 11, 2023 1:05 PM GMT
Mildly interesting how the winner lost the final vote if had been standalone. I wonder how the market would have priced it up.
Report armagnac December 11, 2023 1:09 PM GMT
on app vote and phone voting tony nige sam
Report armagnac December 11, 2023 1:10 PM GMT
no*
Report SlippyBlue December 11, 2023 1:12 PM GMT
A highly enjoyable series both watching and trading and entertaining reading all the posts on here as well. I ended up in front but not by much as I made some shocking trades along the way.

Backing Fred @ 10.0 being one of them. What on Earth was I thinking about!

Laugh
Report five leaves left December 11, 2023 1:13 PM GMT
I think we can go round and round in circles, when it comes to the insider debate. The more interesting one to me is why Sam won, as I feel in the pre-app days Tony would have won and won easily. He was clearly the favourite of the fb mums
I think you've covered the reasons already, army
The app obviously skews the vote towards the under 30's. They've always been a decent percentage of the audience but probably didn't vote much before the app. So the mems picked the winner. Now they make up a large percentage of the vote
Report five leaves left December 11, 2023 1:15 PM GMT

Dec 11, 2023 -- 1:12PM, SlippyBlue wrote:


A highly enjoyable series both watching and trading and entertaining reading all the posts on here as well. I ended up in front but not by much as I made some shocking trades along the way.Backing Fred @ 10.0 being one of them. What on Earth was I thinking about!


I backed him as low as 6, I think Grin Happy to get out about level after that

Report Cider December 11, 2023 1:15 PM GMT
I read somewhere, ds I think that the audience is skewed to under 35s.
Report armagnac December 11, 2023 1:17 PM GMT
you got it fig, that's the way it went down and josie never really had a chance from the beginning v Sam
Report five leaves left December 11, 2023 1:18 PM GMT
Yep, but I suspect it's always been that way, cider. My nieces and nephews all watch it., While they'd never watch strictly
Report five leaves left December 11, 2023 1:19 PM GMT
If they did Bobby would win
Report five leaves left December 11, 2023 1:20 PM GMT
..and Zara wouldn't have been out early
Report armagnac December 11, 2023 1:20 PM GMT
i washed plenty of green down the toilet, had many many many chances to clean up had i traded early and not tried to be greedy. oh well
Report five leaves left December 11, 2023 1:22 PM GMT
Lessons learnt Grin We know to back the young tw@ts next year
Report armagnac December 11, 2023 1:24 PM GMT
lol oh yes fig
Report Cider December 11, 2023 1:25 PM GMT
It was always dumb, but now a modern day tiswas.
Report SlippyBlue December 11, 2023 1:28 PM GMT
That's me signing off now from special bets, same time next year people.

Best of luck one and all and a happy and healthy 2024.
Report Cider December 11, 2023 1:32 PM GMT
I suppose also it is scripted reality, just like made in chelsea. I also thought this morning that boxers have to act up to sell fights to a audience, they take on a persona. So hamming it up at the trials came quite naturally to him.
Report Cider December 11, 2023 1:34 PM GMT
Same to you SB Cool
Report Roofe39 December 11, 2023 1:38 PM GMT
signing off fellas, pleasure
Report Angela Rebecchi December 11, 2023 2:49 PM GMT

Dec 11, 2023 -- 1:13PM, five leaves left wrote:


I think we can go round and round in circles, when it comes to the insider debate. The more interesting one to me is why Sam won, as I feel in the pre-app days Tony would have won and won easily. He was clearly the favourite of the fb mumsI think you've covered the reasons already, armyThe app obviously skews the vote towards the under 30's. They've always been a decent percentage of the audience but probably didn't vote much before the app. So the mems picked the winner. Now they make up a large percentage of the vote


spot on mate. assume the app voting was in place for Vicky Pattison too?

Report GeorgeBrush December 11, 2023 4:30 PM GMT

Dec 11, 2023 -- 1:05PM, Cider wrote:


Mildly interesting how the winner lost the final vote if had been standalone. I wonder how the market would have priced it up.


That's far from certain from these figures. Sam could have also won the hth, just by a smaller margin.

You can't really tell without the number of votes

Report five leaves left December 11, 2023 5:10 PM GMT
Yep, I imagine Sam wonder the h2h too. Surely most people will have only voted via the app. 5 votes for the top 3 and 5 in the h2h.

So the h2h could have been something like 52/48 Grin Sam
Report five leaves left December 11, 2023 5:11 PM GMT
Won * wonder? lol my brain is frazzled Grin
Report GeorgeBrush December 15, 2023 12:54 AM GMT
Farage norrappy

Not entirely clear what is complaint is though.  Just letting off steam.  Still doesn't look likely to win an election soon
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