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That said, I think the draw is often over stated. Especially with the introduction of the jury vote. "Since 2013, after 9 years of winners coming from the second half, the winner has more often come from the first half of the Grand Final. Arcade (12), Amar Pelos Dois (11), Heroes (10) and Rise Like A Phoenix (11) are the most recent winners to have showcased such an outcome. All of these participants were amongst the pre-Contest favourites to win and their running order placement didn’t change their fortunes." Sweden just need Euro Jury to be vaguely accurate to be home and hosed !
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5 countries have won from 8th before, maybe Spain will make it 6.
I think Spain (75 LPM) and France (85 LPM) each are value. A fair jury and they can win that, and potentially going to get a good public vote too. Live outsiders if Sweden don't get the jury landslide. Obviously they'd be better live outsiders had they got a better draw or slot. |
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Agree with that. Brutal for their televote chances though as they needed all the help they could get. I'll try to lay at lower odds during jury voting
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Great for Finland though
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They really should make a rule about the props and how long staging takes to set up. Sweden always gets a better draw because of it. What if everyone had decided to do that? Show would be twice as long.
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If you send a big prop that needs a long ad break to set up then you will be guaranteed slot 9 or slot 17 whether first half or second half in final. So send a big prop to avoid being given a rubbish slot.
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Just at the start of the contest they show a list of the top 10 countries on screen who have won the contest the most times. in first place is Ireland with 7 wins, In second place is Sweden with 6 wins and down to joint 8th place Ukraine with 3 wins. The presenter(s) also announce that Sweden only needs one more win to have the most wins which may or may not be seen as a subtle hint to push Sweden for the win on the night. The presenter(s) also announce the return of Luxembourg to the contest.
Link to a picture of the screen showing the countries with the most number of wins of the contest: https://twitter.com/ge_aldrig_upp/status/1656978015945891844/photo/1 |
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They haven't done in any previous year that i am aware of where they provide a list of the top x countries who have won it the most when a new country or former country returns to the contest or even without a new or former country returning to the contest. I do find it suspicious that when they show and provide a list this year on screan that they mention that Sweden only needs one more win to have the most wins in the contest (even if they actually tie with Ireland for the most wins) when Sweden is the very hot short odds on fave to win this year with Loreen who would become the first female ever to win the contest twice. Perhaps it is just my suspicious brain that sees it.
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I think any mention of a country the more it seeps into the sub consciousness of the viewer. I'm just hoping if they win it's because they're within 100 points of the top of the public vote. If it's done a Heroes of 2015 and hacked up with the jury's then it's a sad non contest already.
One of the biggest travesties was Norway topping the vote in 2019 but finishing 6th overall as the juries somehow only awarded a total of 40. Hard to fathom that. |
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Sweden wins this afternoons press poll. Nothing is mentioned as to how many people or votes were cast.
Top 5 as follows: Sweden 19.10% Finland 12.42% Israel 8.9% Italy 7.2% Spain 7.01% Link to the press poll here: https://twitter.com/escxtra/status/1657068012124483584 There will no doubt an audience poll for tonights jury dress rehearsal. |
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Michael Jacksons sings You'll never walk alone....
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Sweden no back into 1.53
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Someone posted on Twitter during the jury show:
"Sweden - The top screen is back in shot for the final chorus. However, so was a camera crane." link: https://twitter.com/vDanDesign/status/1657113730428162066 |
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Someone has now put £5500 wanting to be backed on Sweden at 1.56 obviously some trader.
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amount now £8700 wanting to backed at 1.56 on Sweden.
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now £9500 wanting to be backed on Sweden at 1.56 and now £1900 wanting to be backed at 1.55 on Sweden.
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Sweden now 1.50
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when was the last time a eurovision fav got beat?
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Hopefully tomorrow. Finland are a monstrous green for me so here's hoping. Can't begrudge a Sweden win though, it's a belting Eurovision entry.
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Wonder if anyone has the results of the jurors who casted their votes tonight during the 2nd dress rehearsal. That would be very powerful information to have !
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The audience poll for the jury dress rehearsal has just landed:
3704 total votes. Top 5 as follows: Finland 29.2% 1083 votes Sweden 11.5% 411 votes Belgium 7.9% 291 votes Norway 7.0% 259 votes Austria 6.6% 246 votes You can see all 26 countries in the following tweet link here: https://twitter.com/escxtra/status/1657181792044982278 |
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Anyone had a bet on the last place market?
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The jury voting order has been revealed during tonight’s jury final rehearsal for Eurovision 2023.
The order breaks with tradition to start with last year’s champions Ukraine, before moving to the previous host country Italy, who would traditionally open. The voting closes once more with the votes from this year’s host country, the United Kingdom, with Catherine Tate presenting from the back of Liverpool Arena. The full jury running order is as follows; 1. Ukraine 2. Italy 3. Latvia 4. Netherlands 5. Malta 6. Moldova 7. Ireland 8. San Marino 9. Azerbaijan 10. Austria 11. France 12. Finland 13. Belgium 14. Germany 15. Portugal 16. Croatia 17. Estonia 18. Armenia 19. Poland 20. Romania 21. Iceland 22. Serbia 23. Cyprus 24. Norway 25. Switzerland 26. Australia 27. Denmark 28. Spain 29. Israel 30. Sweden 31. Georgia 32. Czechia 33. Slovenia 34. Greece 35. Albania 36. Lithuania 37. United Kingdom |
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Good info. I'm sure someone can workout where each country is likely to do better with others - could be good for in-play
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Israel being well supported throughout the markets.
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As well as Italy.
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A lot of people saying Loreen had a bad last 30 seconds in the Jury Vote yesterday, not that it will matter anyway
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Loreen could perform her song without saying a word and the juries will still vote en mass for it.
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Come on Croatia
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It`s a Ukranian ramp-fest!
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Verka
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Mimi fantastic again, deserved winner!
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The real Billy eilish on now
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not convinced these are live vocals from Loreen
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my ears
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Sweden storming in 1.57 Finland pushed out. Italy now into 40's
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Czechia
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Dunno why that Belgian song isn't favourite - total anthem.
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