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Angela Rebecchi When: 09 May 23 23:02
all 4 of the 5 favs are first half but for ukraine who are bang last or something
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Corbyguy When: 09 May 23 23:02
loreen will be slot 9 to 13 straight after the ad break
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Lifter When: 09 May 23 23:02
Where are spain?
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Angela Rebecchi When: 09 May 23 23:03
1st half too right
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Lifter When: 09 May 23 23:03
yeah I thought so, wow
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Lifter When: 09 May 23 23:03
Not good for France as Sweden will get the better slot
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Corbyguy When: 09 May 23 23:03
so Sweden, Finland, France, Italy and Spain all first half.
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Corbyguy When: 09 May 23 23:04
Will they open with finland or will they place late in the first half?
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Angela Rebecchi When: 09 May 23 23:04
all guess work surely. don't see why france will get a bad spot.
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Corbyguy When: 09 May 23 23:05
sweden price 1.70 finland price 5.0
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Lifter When: 09 May 23 23:11
Anyone think Ukraine have any chance?
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Angela Rebecchi When: 09 May 23 23:13
this is turning into the weirdest year ! france have been matched at triple figures tonight ! I don't know if it was the camera work or acoustics but nothing was impressive tonight, only song I liked was Malta and it didn't qualify !
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Angela Rebecchi When: 09 May 23 23:15
most voters will be hearing all these songs for the first time on Saturday, but the market is convinced the jurors give it to Sweden and the voters give it to Finland. With no market to guide I would not have thought either of these things !
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Lifter When: 09 May 23 23:17
Finland would be great opener to get the party started, to be fair
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Angela Rebecchi When: 09 May 23 23:19
and they also got the prime slot in semi final, so couldn't really complain !
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Lifter When: 09 May 23 23:19
Saw on another forum... Since 2016 every grand final opener has been a semi closer except for 2019
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Lifter When: 09 May 23 23:23
Although, putting the semi winner on 1st... surely not?
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Angela Rebecchi When: 09 May 23 23:25
ukraine money gone, despite the two favs getting the early draw !
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Screw Loose When: 10 May 23 00:11
At what point do we think Italy flip flops with France?

Friday PM imho.
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Corbyguy When: 10 May 23 02:38
Rybak winner in 2009 returned in 2018 and won semi final 2 drew first half in the final and was given slot 7. Destiny won JESC in 2015 entered eurovision in 2021 who won Semi final 1 drew first half in the final and was given slot 6. Will the producers treat Loreen the same as former winners Rybak and Destiny and give her a 6 or 7 slot to perform in and place an ad break just before her performance or will they give her preference to former winners Rybak and Destiny because "Sweden" and give her a 9 to 13 slot in the running order of the final.
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Lifter When: 10 May 23 09:09

May 10, 2023 -- 12:11AM, Screw Loose wrote:


At what point do we think Italy flip flops with France? Friday PM imho.


no chance of that

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Screw Loose When: 10 May 23 10:14

May 10, 2023 -- 9:09AM, Lifter wrote:


May 10, 2023 -- 12:11AM, Screw Loose wrote:At what point do we think Italy flip flops with France? Friday PM imho.no chance of that


Let's see. Online reaction on Insta/Twitter/Facebook was flat for France during the snippets revealed last night, Italy significantly ahead across all platforms on TellyStats. Italy Top Big 5 a good price rn.

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Angela Rebecchi When: 10 May 23 13:46
Italy is my favourite song, by a distance. Would be nice to see it recognised.

The money for Sweden has been strong and relentless despite a very average performance. That said, I think the audio was under whelming for all acts so looked like a producer end issue. Camera work was really poor too.
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andrewk When: 10 May 23 14:25
anyone know the actual winner of Semi final 1? My money is still sat pending. Anyone help??
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andrewk When: 10 May 23 14:25
anyone know the actual winner of Semi final 1? My money is still sat pending. Anyone help??
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andrewk When: 10 May 23 14:25
anyone know the actual winner of Semi final 1? My money is still sat pending. Anyone help??
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andrewk When: 10 May 23 14:25
anyone know the actual winner of Semi final 1? My money is still sat pending. Anyone help??
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andrewk When: 10 May 23 14:25
anyone know the actual winner of Semi final 1? My money is still sat pending. Anyone help??
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Screw Loose When: 10 May 23 14:26
Winner/finishing positions of semi finals only released after the final.
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Angela Rebecchi When: 10 May 23 14:38
Officially that is. They've been leaked before. A stream I watched the other day seemingly knew it but then was ushered from discussing it by a co host.
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andrewk When: 10 May 23 14:44
I suppose that’s logical. If someone had won semi 1 by a country mile it will obviously throw the betting into turmoil. Somebody is sitting there with the results though. Anybody notice any massive shortening of odds after that semi final?
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Angela Rebecchi When: 10 May 23 14:57
Sweden are being lumped on like someone knows that Finland didn't get the large lead they were going to need.
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Corbyguy When: 10 May 23 15:09
Swedn now pushed into 1.56 from 1.70 after the allocation draw last night. The televote gap between Finland and Sweden will be a lot shorter last night as only 18/19 countires voting whereas in final there will be 38 (including Rest of the World vote). Perhaps the reason the shortening on Sweden is due to insider knowing that Sweden won the semi final and not Finalnd. We shall see what is the case when the results are revealed late Saturday night.
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Corbyguy When: 10 May 23 15:13
£4.085 waiting to be backed on Sweden at 1.60 and £1,500 waiting to be backed on Sweden at 1.59 obvisouly a trader or insider information regarding Sweden being winner of semi final.
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Screw Loose When: 10 May 23 15:15

May 10, 2023 -- 2:38PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:


Officially that is. They've been leaked before. A stream I watched the other day seemingly knew it but then was ushered from discussing it by a co host.


Have they? I remember a lot of gambles that people thought were based on leaked results that turned out not to be so, but not many/any where there are genuine leaks - and i'd be extremely cautious of anyone claiming to have them.

Eurovision attracts a lot of lumpy bets, especially during the week of the contest in what can sometimes otherwise be a thin market - i'd be careful of automatically attributing them to inside info.

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Angela Rebecchi When: 10 May 23 15:29

May 10, 2023 -- 3:09PM, Corbyguy wrote:


Swedn now pushed into 1.56 from 1.70 after the allocation draw last night. The televote gap between Finland and Sweden will be a lot shorter last night as only 18/19 countires voting whereas in final there will be 38 (including Rest of the World vote). Perhaps the reason the shortening on Sweden is due to insider knowing that Sweden won the semi final and not Finalnd. We shall see what is the case when the results are revealed late Saturday night.


They wouldn't need to have won for there to be confidence. Anywhere close would have given huge confidence given the large gap expected in the Jury votes.

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Angela Rebecchi When: 10 May 23 15:30

May 10, 2023 -- 3:15PM, Screw Loose wrote:


May 10, 2023 -- 2:38PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:Officially that is. They've been leaked before. A stream I watched the other day seemingly knew it but then was ushered from discussing it by a co host.Have they? I remember a lot of gambles that people thought were based on leaked results that turned out not to be so, but not many/any where there are genuine leaks - and i'd be extremely cautious of anyone claiming to have them. Eurovision attracts a lot of lumpy bets, especially during the week of the contest in what can sometimes otherwise be a thin market - i'd be careful of automatically attributing them to inside info.


Been going on since Lordi where a few let it known Finland had won the semi final, and the market had reflected that at the time too.

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Screw Loose When: 10 May 23 16:01
All i'm saying is there's gambles every year, often accompanied by people saying it's inside knowledge. Sometimes the gambles win, sometimes they lose. Sometimes they are gambles based purely off public reaction or freely available social media/polling info. The Jedward gamble in 2011 was enormous - they almost went off favourites, but had finished 8th in the semi from the pimp slot.

It may be that an extremely small number of insiders have a bet based on the results, but Ive not seen any clear evidence of it and would be keen to see some if anyone has it, otherwise it's just conjecture.
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Angela Rebecchi When: 10 May 23 16:23
How would you explain Italy in 2015 going crazy on social media, hitting the highest votes ever, yet drifting throughout the results. Seemed like some people with good money had worked out it was a dead duck. All conjecture though, for sure. But if it looks like a duck and quacks like one. Though I get there are examples - especially before the final - as you say, but this seemed rather blatant.
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Corbyguy When: 10 May 23 16:36
Sweden now in to 1.52
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