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Lifter
03 Dec 21 17:05
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Odds think it's a shootout between Ed and Ladbaby...

Who wins?
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Report bingoped1 December 3, 2021 5:24 PM GMT
Heard EJ and ED today, very catchy festive number, has Ladbaby confirmed anything yet?
Report Lifter December 3, 2021 5:28 PM GMT
Yeah, found myself humming along to it - it's good enough to win. Ladbaby hasn't confirmed anything yet, but apparently, he's recording in secret. They tend to leave it pretty late.
Report Lifter December 17, 2021 11:28 AM GMT
Turns out Ladybaby have done a song with Ed Sheeran and Elton John Laugh
Report Lifter December 17, 2021 11:34 AM GMT
Lad*
Report LendUsAFiver December 17, 2021 7:52 PM GMT
So, does Ladbady win on his own or with Ed and Elton? Very confusing market. It's all down to terminology. Ed said the artist is going to be LadBaby, they were just taking part.
Report LendUsAFiver December 17, 2021 8:00 PM GMT
Legally it is Ladybaby featuring Elton and Ed but Betfair do like to make their own rules up with it comes to ambiguity. Cricket traders know all too well about match completion markets.
The Artist is 100% not LadBaby,Elton John &Ed Sheeran! It is Ladbaby featuring Elton and Ed.
It's all down to the Betfair police to decide but I doubt common sense will prevail.
Report LendUsAFiver December 17, 2021 8:14 PM GMT
Laura's gone also a potential
Report LendUsAFiver December 17, 2021 8:28 PM GMT
Actually the market is a complete mess, imagine betting on ladbaby and then they add LadBaby,Elton John &Ed Sheeran as an artist! WHaaa talk about a minefield.
Report Cider December 17, 2021 8:40 PM GMT
Event Start Time
24 December 2021, 16:00
Win Only Market

For the purposes of this market, Featuring Artists DO NOT count. For example If Marshmello ft Bastille - Happier was Xmas Number 1, the market would be settled as "Marshmello" as the winner. Officialcharts.com will be the sole source of how we adjudicate whether a song contains a featured artist. For this they will need to use the abbreviation FT or the word “featuring”, otherwise if more than one artist is listed on a song it will be considered a duet. If a song is clearly stated as a Duet by the Official Charts company, the Duet selection will be added, for example "Calvin Harris & Sam Smith"


It will be how the winner is listed in the Charts tab, on the OCC website, one assumes.
Report LendUsAFiver December 17, 2021 8:55 PM GMT
That's surely to remove ambiguity from 2 seperate artists being a dead heat. ie one selection is Marshmello, the other being Bastille - The winner would be Marshmello - In this market the've added all the names under one artist, maybe to remove ambiguity but instead of removing ambiguity they've added more that conflict with their market rules - It's a complete mess.
Report Cider December 17, 2021 9:14 PM GMT
Not really. On the OCC chart listing there's a song and the artists listed underneath, in lighter blue. Betfair has stated that this is the sole source of how they adjudicate whether a song contains a featured artist. The OCC will need to use the abbreviation FT or the word “featuring”, otherwise if more than one artist is listed on a song it will be considered a duet.
Report Cider December 17, 2021 9:16 PM GMT
They had to pick a sole source, as previously different sources listed the artists in different ways. The rules are explicit.
Report LendUsAFiver December 18, 2021 12:52 AM GMT
OK I see what you are saying now.
Also to break the previous record and get the official consecutive chart run he must be the sole artist but it's ok to have additionals as featuring. I think they want that record so will label it the same as their youtube and itunes pre-release single. The market has it the other way around though? IF it looks too good to be true then it usually is...Let's see, I've had a bit of interest.
Report Cider December 18, 2021 7:30 AM GMT
An element of betting on Xmas #1 is backing the correct selection that ultimately wins. Otherwise people could now back Elton John @260 and claim they had the winner. With the traditional bookmakers, you get the chance of goodwill/concession, with exchanges it is being across the rules, and caveat emptor.
Report LendUsAFiver December 19, 2021 4:19 PM GMT
Whale cash has arrived. Such a shame, was enjoying laying LB, ES and EJ around 1.4 ☹️
Report Lifter December 23, 2021 5:45 PM GMT
Just checked back with this market... surely they got to void now?

LB, ES, & EJ isn't a possible winner, right?
Report Lifter December 23, 2021 5:47 PM GMT
They added it because they thought that was the official selection, but it's not, so now it's a mess Laugh
Report LendUsAFiver December 23, 2021 6:49 PM GMT
The rules clearly have duets, trio's and featuring's covered. If it's ladbaby featuring (which it is) then the favourite wins.
Report LendUsAFiver December 23, 2021 6:50 PM GMT
Also there are two editions of the song, they will both absolutely be grouped into the count under ladbaby to remove any ambiguity.
Report LendUsAFiver December 24, 2021 1:20 AM GMT
Why has market suspended so long? 16 hours to go
Report Cider December 24, 2021 8:34 AM GMT
Sales cut off for the Xmas chart is midnight.
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