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It's that time of the year again.

First three "celebs" due to be announced on TOS tonight apparently.

Can't get my head round it yet.  Signals the end of the Summer so seems too early.

Hope some of the old crew are around, and that you're all well.
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Report Cider November 17, 2019 8:35 PM GMT
Michelle was a curve ball for me, how often would a runner go from 2nd in the scoreboard (8 runners) and DO to bottom of the scoreboard the following week. Plus landing CC and a brilliant song. But I'd still make the 12/1 Alex play every time. Realise it was announced Michelle wasn't touring but still feels very odd how external choreographers (apparently) choreographed something that would be guaranteed rooted to the bottom of the scoreboard.
Report J.O.TOBIN. November 17, 2019 8:41 PM GMT
Frank Wilson would get Tobes and Fat Ted up on the dance floor  I reckon

Just listened to it not 10 minutes ago LoveLoveLoveLove

A massive northern soul classic his parents used to do the northern soul circuit as well so a fair chance they do it
Report J.O.TOBIN. November 17, 2019 8:45 PM GMT
See if you can spot me in the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OvaglT9EB4
Report bearcub November 18, 2019 7:52 AM GMT
Good grief, where to start with some in that video CryCryCry

I'd say that's you at .42 secs
Report squares November 18, 2019 6:37 PM GMT
Michelle made it to ITT - more's the pity
Report johnnyrant November 18, 2019 6:39 PM GMT
Cry
Report johnnyrant November 18, 2019 6:41 PM GMT
Looking back, most of her dances were cr*p. It's clear to me they had the aim to get her to Blackpool & it was Blackpool & out - no need to over-score her any more.
Report squares November 18, 2019 6:42 PM GMT
Giovanni's face
Report Cider November 18, 2019 6:48 PM GMT
Horrendous interview to be fair. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.
Report Cider November 18, 2019 6:53 PM GMT
Karim is just as annoying in his own way. I LOVE MYSELF BABY.
Report squares November 18, 2019 6:54 PM GMT
Awful ITT tonight, always a relief when it gets to Zoe's days too
Report Cider November 18, 2019 6:56 PM GMT
White socks cap it off.
Report squares November 18, 2019 6:58 PM GMT
Another Couple's Choice this weekend - Karim & Amy doing contemporary

really hard and a challenge

hopefully really emotional
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 18, 2019 7:04 PM GMT
Yes Karim safely through again then it looks like.
Report johnnyrant November 18, 2019 7:04 PM GMT
No mention of the -athon on Saturday. Maybe they've ditched it. Bruno singing instead.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 18, 2019 7:15 PM GMT
Hoipefully he'll be singing Karim's praises!
Report squares November 20, 2019 9:43 AM GMT
Alex and Neil Argentine Tango Never Tear Us Apart Bishop Briggs

Emma and Anton Quickstep Sparkling Diamonds Nicole Kidman

Saffron and AJ Samba Walking On Sunshine Take Me To Rio Collective

Chris and Karen Paso Doble Run Boy Run Woodkid

Karim and Amy Couples’ Choice CONTEMPORARY Drops Of Jupiter With Confidence

Kelvin and Oti Couples’ Choice STREET / COMMERCIAL Do I Love You (Indeed I Do) Frank Wilson
Report squares November 20, 2019 6:32 PM GMT
Ian time
Report squares November 20, 2019 6:38 PM GMT
Karim and Amy

a challenge for Amy as she has never done contemporary.

Very fast and frenetic as is always the case with Karim's performances.

An embrace where they need to be very lyrical and act it.



Chris and Karen

PD

Zoe loving Chris and thinks this could show a different side of Chris

missing a few heel leads on the walks
needs a straighter leg
hips forward to create more shape and elbows up

lots of great PD moves just make them stronger and more shaping



Alex and Neil

3-4 timing AT which is unusual like a waltz timing, usually done with 4-4 timing

a bit bouncy and should be flatter
needs to keep her feet on the floor
very impressed with her retractions



Emma and Anton

QS

quite impressed with her flight across the floor and rise and fall with Anton which is quite difficult

and keeping her hips turned to Anton



Kelvin and Oti

Street Commercial

very physical
like a fitness routine
going into a lift
lots of different types of dance
hip hop
banghra
salsa



Saffron & AJ

Samba

a difficult dance
doing some lovely samba whisks, etc.
has got all the moves
Report squares November 20, 2019 6:39 PM GMT
Ian's Gold Star to Alex. (last week it was Michelle)
Report five leaves left November 20, 2019 6:47 PM GMT
Hopefully with the same result
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 20, 2019 6:52 PM GMT
Hopefully with the same result

Yes hopefully.

Also another great song for Emma and Anton.  All this other modern nonsense and what do they get? ............ "Diamonds are a Girl's best friend' to a Hollywood style QS.  That's what the masses want and for me they'll go through again.
Report squares November 20, 2019 7:12 PM GMT
didn't Saffron and AJ have a Hollywood-style QS last week
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 20, 2019 7:23 PM GMT
Yes they did and did it very well I thought.  Judges noticed a mistake or two (I'm sure most of us never) so critiqued them not so well.  That said they're through again.

I honestly have never heard of any of the other songs that have been chosen.  I'd love to see the Greatest Hits albums of the acts that sing them, they must have one track on them!

No a good old catchy classic that most of the Strictly audience will know and sing along to as they dance that's the stuff.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 20, 2019 7:27 PM GMT
'Walking on Sunshine' I do know to be fair.  But this versions not even the famous one.  As for the others ............ never heard of them and many wouldn't have.  Not the best formula IMO.
Report johnnyrant November 22, 2019 6:31 PM GMT
Zoe's lost over a million listeners since taking over R2 Breakfast Show. I think I know why
Report squares November 22, 2019 6:42 PM GMT
ITT is awful this year apart from Ian's training comments.
Report squares November 22, 2019 6:43 PM GMT
They must have cut Friday night's ITT from one hour to half an hour because it was such a drag and a struggle to fill the hour.
Report johnnyrant November 22, 2019 6:46 PM GMT
Agree squares. This Friday Panel segment has been hopelessly wide of the mark virtually every week. Like the blind leading the blind.
Report squares November 22, 2019 6:47 PM GMT
Terrible panels this series.
Report squares November 22, 2019 6:50 PM GMT
Some of those training clips looked a bit of a mess tonight - Alex's is poor in parts, good in others, not convinced about Emma doing that QS in training gear but will probably be fine once dressed for it.  Saffron's Samba looks clonky.
Report johnnyrant November 22, 2019 6:51 PM GMT
Saffron saying 'literally' in interview - you'd soon be wasted if it was a drinking game
Report squares November 22, 2019 6:51 PM GMT
It looks like they can go whichever they want with some of these couples this weekend.
Report squares November 22, 2019 6:53 PM GMT
panel really taking a chance

Kelvin a contender for the last three

Karim a contender for the final
Report johnnyrant November 22, 2019 6:53 PM GMT
Absolutely. Room for tough comments & scores depending on how they want to play it
Report squares November 22, 2019 6:54 PM GMT
is it Zoe's birthday tomorrow?  Nobody seems to have mentioned it Plain
Report johnnyrant November 22, 2019 6:55 PM GMT
Your 1st post on this thread, squares - July 31. It seems to speed through quicker and quicker each year.
Report squares November 22, 2019 6:56 PM GMT
bl!mey, that long ago - scary
Report squares November 24, 2019 7:33 PM GMT
Musicals next week

Emma & Anton - Charleston
Report J.O.TOBIN. November 24, 2019 7:35 PM GMT
Gonna need a mop and bucket after the dance offSadSad
Report squares November 24, 2019 7:38 PM GMT
Tobes - thought of you when I saw Kelvin's Dad
Report bearcub November 24, 2019 7:39 PM GMT
So did i lol   Laugh
Report squares November 24, 2019 7:41 PM GMT
Laugh
Report J.O.TOBIN. November 24, 2019 7:46 PM GMT
I cant dance too well builtSad
Report squares November 24, 2019 7:47 PM GMT
Chris and Karen - FT
Report J.O.TOBIN. November 24, 2019 7:50 PM GMT
Will miss Saffrons dads teethBlush
Report squares November 24, 2019 7:58 PM GMT
sounds like no a-thon this year - result
Report squares November 24, 2019 8:01 PM GMT
Emma & Anton - Charleston
Chris & KAren - FT

Alex looking forward to a party dance so assume Salsa
Report johnnyrant November 24, 2019 8:01 PM GMT
salsa or samba for Alex, I think it is safe to assume
Report squares November 25, 2019 9:32 AM GMT
Musicals week this week... consider us, well in!

(That’s a clue by the way)


Hint from Chris, so sounds like it's Oliver.  Didn't Kellie and Kev do a corker of an Oliver routine?
Report johnnyrant November 25, 2019 6:46 PM GMT
AJ seething. He has come across as a bad loser tonight
Report Cider November 25, 2019 6:59 PM GMT
Three years running he's been elbowed out with the samba. Understandably aggrieved, but that's the game they signed up to. Not helping his chances for next year if he remains signed!
Report squares November 26, 2019 5:50 PM GMT
I didn't see it but surely it should make him determined to improve on the dance and beat the curse/stat.

Although tbf he didn't stand much chance with Saffron. 

Trouble is, most of her other uptempo/Latin dances have been pretty poor but way overmarked to keep her in the contest.  Finally she was scored realistically.
Report squares November 26, 2019 5:51 PM GMT
Alex and Neil: Samba to Joyful Joyful from Sister Act
Chris and Karen: Foxtrot to Consider Yourself from Oliver!
Emma and Anton: Charleston to Thoroughly Modern Millie from Thoroughly Modern Millie
Karim and Amy: Jive to You Can't Stop the Beat from Hairspray
Kelvin and Oti: American Smooth to Gaston from Beauty and the Beast
Report squares November 26, 2019 5:57 PM GMT
top one seems strange for a Samba, from the way it is performed in the film it seems it would be more apt for a Street performance.

Chris's seems too fast for a FT but ideal persona for him to play.

Very traditional but also very predictable for Emma and Anton.  Seems to be along similar lines to her Theatre Jazz and that was more style over substance so could go either way, a massive triumph or fall flat.  Depends on the narrative of the whole show.

Strange choice of dance for Karim after repeatedly getting stick for being fast and frenetic and packing too much in and surely they are going to have to do that all over again for this track which has been done to death on the show.  Once again could be a massive triumph (or not).  "That's when fast, frenetic and action-packed really works for you" and a 10 from Craig maybe.

Kelvin's a bit too Disney for me.  Wonder if he will be wearing a great big beast head.  Assume a VW-based AmSm.
Report squares November 26, 2019 6:03 PM GMT
Mincey on House of Games this week
Report Cider November 26, 2019 6:35 PM GMT

Nov 26, 2019 -- 6:50PM, squares wrote:


I didn't see it but surely it should make him determined to improve on the dance and beat the curse/stat.Although tbf he didn't stand much chance with Saffron.  Trouble is, most of her other uptempo/Latin dances have been pretty poor but way overmarked to keep her in the contest.  Finally she was scored realistically.


It wasn't great obviously but they were hung out to dry, no theme, zero production, slowed down version of the song. It's not just that it was the samba which is so difficult to cope with for females, but the stage in the comp and as I say nothing to hide behind. The two females left would have been worse given that hand, but that's the game, it was Saffron's turn in the script to bow out. Chris is getting all the protection in the world, and I suppose AJ hasn't enjoyed that kind of production support when it matters, he probably thought it was his best chance to get to the final.

Report Cider November 26, 2019 6:53 PM GMT
Maths not Amy's strongpoint.
Report Cider November 26, 2019 6:55 PM GMT
Karim is such a luvvie, not appealing. Needs to take some lessons in humility.
Report squares November 26, 2019 8:16 PM GMT
I was going to post that re: Amy, Cider
Report Cider November 26, 2019 8:35 PM GMT
Indeed sq! Karim really needed someone to reign him in occasionally, but she's being indulgent as well. It's coming across very stubborn. Contrast to someone like Jay who gave the impression he was never able to accept how good he was.
Report squares November 26, 2019 8:47 PM GMT
Yes, Amy seems like an over-indulgent mother with a spoilt child this series.
Report squares November 27, 2019 6:32 PM GMT
Ian's training clip comments coming up
Report squares November 27, 2019 6:39 PM GMT
Karim & Amy

Jive

amazing number, going to be fantastic
dancing steps on his own
very good natural jive action
picking up his knees, flicks and kicks really good, tummy tucked under and knees up high, and lovely arch when he points his feet

(no show of the routine with Amy, just Karim doing the basics and does look amazing)



Alex and Neil
Samba

hope it's not a bad omen
this doesn't look traditional
some samba moves in there
lovely action so far
like to see a bit more rhythm in the body


Emma and Anton
Charleston

really impressed
right feel
right face
lovely flapper feel to it

(Emma looking better than Anton)


Kelvin & Oti
AmSm(VW)

prev VW was quite slow
think this is a very fast VW and going to show Shirley what they can do
lovely frame
very strong
lovely T shape
head a bit left



Chris & Karen
FT

not much FT in this
so difficult to critique
loves Chris and lots of synchonisation and he's loving it which is why everyone is voting for him


Gold Star for Kelvin this week

cos he loves his frame
Report squares November 27, 2019 6:54 PM GMT
loving Alex's attitude
Report squares November 27, 2019 6:57 PM GMT
sounds like she wanted to dance to this track all along, wanted it for movie week but Neil said wait until musicals week so they apparently had some say in this.

Loads of extra dancers
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 28, 2019 12:10 AM GMT
Great songs this week for Emma and Chris.  Very catchy singalong stuff which is what most will want to hear.

The other three I've never heard of them and I can't be the only one so surely not an ideal scenario to dance to a tune that many won't have heard of, have no idea where the song goes, can't sing along or tap their feet like we all do.

IMO choose a song that everyone knows and that can only be a good thing so a plus for Emma and Chris with two classics.
Report squares November 28, 2019 6:36 PM GMT
Alex wearing a denim skirt with bib type thing for her Samba

red-fringed frock for Emma

black and white fringed chessboard effect frock for Amy
Report squares November 28, 2019 6:58 PM GMT
Four backing dancers for Chris and Karen.

Karen is Oliver
Report five leaves left November 29, 2019 12:49 AM GMT
Being given the Kellie Bright treatment?
Report squares November 29, 2019 6:45 PM GMT
Kelvin's Dad turned up to dance on ITT without Kelvin knowing Laugh
Report squares November 29, 2019 6:47 PM GMT
another hideous Friday panel
Report five leaves left November 29, 2019 6:49 PM GMT
I don't mind Mel. Alex looks poor
Report five leaves left November 29, 2019 6:51 PM GMT
Karim as frenetic as always
Report squares December 1, 2019 7:48 PM GMT
Emma & Anton

CCC and Waltz


Karim & Amy

AmSm and AT


Kelvin and Oti

PD and QS
Report squares December 1, 2019 7:49 PM GMT
?? VW and Rumba for Chris so they all have different dances
Report five leaves left December 1, 2019 7:54 PM GMT
Could be. Would be 2 shockers for Chris
Report squares December 1, 2019 7:59 PM GMT
lovely attitude Alex has.  Neil in bits.
Report Cider December 1, 2019 8:00 PM GMT
The producers have got so slick at crafting the results and making it appear genuine.
Report squares December 1, 2019 8:01 PM GMT
VW and Rumba confirmed for Chris and Karen
Report five leaves left December 1, 2019 8:01 PM GMT
yep, 2 fairly positive critiques but nothing OTT for Chris and Alex. Then go crazy for the next 3 couples
Report alun2005 December 1, 2019 8:03 PM GMT
About time that Scott got knocked out. Long overdue.
Report five leaves left December 1, 2019 8:03 PM GMT
Dodgy Len would have been proud
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B December 1, 2019 10:09 PM GMT
Alex actually lasted one week longer than she should have done.  She wasn't as good as Saffron or Dev but to be fair at the same time she's in a different league to the awful Chris so all in all she gained one extra week.

A good dancer but 7/10 all round is not good enough to win Strictly when there a couple of 9's still in in plus the 7 and a half that's Emma.

Nice girl though, lovely smile so well done to her.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B December 2, 2019 12:15 AM GMT
A good thing for the Chris layers is in normal circumstances the last 4 would have been a public vote only so his poor judges marks wouldn't go against him as they don't count.

However with one dancer dropping out the final is now only three so next Saturday the judges scores do count.  He must surely be bottom of the leaderboard (touch wood!) so who can he beat in the dance off when the judges can clearly see the other three are far superior to him.

They should just let the judges alone decide who goes out every week then he'd have been gone about 8 or 9 weeks ago rather than him staying in and other decent dancers getting knocked out.  He must be embarrassed surely to keep going through when he knows each week far better dancers are going home.  He's got some neck I'll give him that.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B December 3, 2019 7:38 AM GMT
Below is my screen shot of AVERAGE PRICE MATCHED

matched bets Order by matched date
Back (Bet For)    Odds    Stake    Profit
Karim Zeroual5.00£50.00£200.00
Will Bayley30.56£61.00£1,803.00
Alex Scott60.00£5.04£297.36
Dev Griffin24.51£86.10£2,024.30
£202.14
Lay (Bet Against)    Backer's
odds    Backer's
stake   
Payout
Liability
Kelvin Fletcher9.70£29.00£252.20
Chris Ramsey60.00£73.47£4,334.73
David James171.36£25.96£4,422.44
Catherine Tyldesley10.48£420.52£3,987.44
Mike Bushell42.92£102.70£4,305.46
Michelle Visage23.42£291.97£6,545.84
Will Bayley25.85£242.66£6,029.34
Alex Scott6.19£729.00£3,782.40
James Cracknell90.00£34.45£3,066.05
Jamie Laing8.40£76.30£564.62
Anneka Rice130.00£33.91£4,374.39
£2,059.94
Bet info

ALSO:  I should add to be totally HONEST as usual.  I've had £233 worth of losing bets on the HS as there were a few small arbs and another £25 on HS for Saffron to be TF at 10/1.

Although another arb I had was £25 on Kelvin at 10/1 to win.

Summing up as long as Chris doesn't win I win just over £1500.  If Karim wins then an extra £250.  Last year was about £2500 so I must be slacking!

So there it is for you all in black and white.  I shouldn't have to do this but every year even though I'm HONEST to the hilt even if it goes against one of my favourites there are some doubters.

I also have been PMing (is that how you write it?) two major contributors to the forum and have been for many years and RIGHT FROM THE VERY START have told them exactly what bets I've had  so hopefully ONE OF THEM WILL KINDLY COME FORWARD AND CONFIRM THIS PLEASE .............. just to shut the rest of the forum up once and for all.




hmmmmmmmm!
Report squares December 3, 2019 11:27 AM GMT
Chris and Karen: Rumba to Don't Watch Me Cry by Jorja Smith and Viennese Waltz to Somebody To Love by Queen

Emma and Anton: Cha Cha Cha to Hold My Hand by Jess Glynne and Waltz to Gymnopédie No.1 by Erik Satie

Karim and Amy: Argentine Tango to Libertango by Bond and American Smooth to Sweet Caroline by Neil Diamond

Kelvin and Oti: Paso Doble to Seven Nation Army by The White Stripes and Quickstep to The Lady is a Tramp by Glee Cast
Report squares December 3, 2019 6:33 PM GMT
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baby due in 11 days
Report squares December 4, 2019 6:38 PM GMT
Wednesday ITT the only one worth watching with Ian's training clips and comments.

Kelvin and Oti on first.

Kelvin says he has been struggling with the QS all week and hasn't really done the PD yet.
Report squares December 4, 2019 6:47 PM GMT
Ian

KArim and Amy

AT
unusual dance
differenet to BR and Latin
very fast
loves his passion and the slide on the floor
going to be great



Chris and Karen

Rumba

very difficult dance for the men to do
Chris has the straight legs but not the smoothness required and rotation of the hips


Emma and Anton

CCC

little bit of jazz at the beginning
very difficult dance
leg/foot placement needs adjusting

Kelvin and Oti
QS
Monday training
very complicated
already looking great
rondes a bit high



KArim and Amy

AmSm (VW)

very smooth
lovely flower in a vase positon
maintaining hold with lovely sway and contra body position



Chris and Karen
VW

needs to have a much stronger core
looks very back weighted and stiff
get elbows up and forward to create a circular shape
and drive and rotate


Emma and Anton

Waltz

looks lovely but very basic
maybe just going through the basics
comes out of a turn on her foot


Kelvin and Oti
PD

just walking through it
going to be a fantastic dance with the strength and power
uses his hips a bit much
keep them up and forward and don't mince


congratulations to all

gold star to Kelvin
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B December 6, 2019 12:06 PM GMT
Motsi was asked on This Morning who she thinks will win the final.  She'd already talked about the two top boys and Emma glowingly but never mentioned Chris at all!

When asked 'Who she wants to win' she replied "I would give it to all three of them".

Poor Chris PMSL
Report squares December 6, 2019 6:03 PM GMT
horrendous panel again
Report squares December 6, 2019 6:49 PM GMT
really enjoyed the feature on Craig through the years

and seeing Grazianno win the pro-challenge was good.  Good to see some more of his personality.
Report five leaves left December 6, 2019 6:53 PM GMT
evening squares. Horrendous panel, but at least I know them all Grin
Report squares December 6, 2019 6:56 PM GMT
actually they were a lot better than I was anticipating.
Report five leaves left December 6, 2019 7:01 PM GMT
Yep,clearly big fans of the show. Which always helps
Report timbuctooth December 12, 2019 9:10 PM GMT
When does Anton go fav, please? I`m guessing just after his Charleston receives his first ever 40
Report mach December 12, 2019 10:25 PM GMT
I think kelvin will win easily, if Jac had not created an upset in IAC I don't think we would have had the same drift on the fav.
Report squares December 13, 2019 8:54 AM GMT
Emma & Anton

Judges Pick – Charleston (Thoroughly Modern Millie from Week 11)
Obviously very recent, scored 9 10 10 10 (39)
Assume there will be some reworking as there were extra dancers who were doing all the lifts.

Showdance – Let Yourself Go (Irving Berlin)

Favourite Dance – TBA

So those two dances look very much in Emma's Threatre Jazz hats and canes comfort zone, perhaps very similar.  Assume fav dance will need to be a slower trad ballroom to add a different slant.


Karim & Amy

Judges Pick – Quickstep (Mr. Pinstripe Suit from Week 7)
Scored 9 10 10 10 (39).
I think I would prefer one of the BRs where he was wearing traditional tails rather than the bright colours which emphasise how young he looks and makes he look like a kids' tv presenter.

Showdance – A Million Dreams (Pink)
I assume this will be wafty balletic contemporary which doesn't tend to go down well unless the dancer is massively popular already.

Favourite Dance – TBA
Perhaps they will choose the jive.


Kelvin & Oti

Judges Pick – Rumba (Ain’t No Sunshine from Week 4)
Scored 9 9 9 9 (36)
Seems an unusual choice, but good to have something from the early weeks and I think exceptional rumbas really stand out as so many are poor.  Also at least we have two very different dances.

Showdance – Shout (The Isley Brothers)
Assume this is going to be frantic with elements of jive, lindyhop, jitterbug, Northern Soul, etc.  So assume favourite dance won't be their jive which I would far rather see again than Karim's.  That sound hopefully that makes way for their final dance to be their first-week Samba with improvement and gives the audience a top notch Latin in the final.

Favourite Dance – TBA
Report squares December 13, 2019 9:23 PM GMT
Favourite Dances

Emma & Anton
Viennese Waltz to Send In The Clowns from A Little Night Music (from Week 4)
Scored 8 9 9 9 (35)

Karim & Amy
Jive to You Can’t Stop The Beat from Hairspray (from Musicals week 11)
Scored 10 10 10 10 (40)

Kelvin & Oti
Samba to La Vida Es Un Carnaval by Celia Cruz (from Week 1)
Scored 8 8 8 8 (32)
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