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Im on at big prices , if he was to win the doubles here at Wimbledon what price would he drop to. Looked like career was over a few months ago. Maybe a good run in the US Open would see him get it
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why would he get selected for the short list if he won wimbledon doubles?
his brother never did |
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It would of helped had he won it , career looked over .
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find the right cricketer ....
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match winner to win the world cup, do well in the ashes , and beat the aussies
roy, root, capt morgan, bairstow, stokes, archer, ...woakes 1000 ? |
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Andy gone back over 100 after goin out of doubles.Just backed Geraint Thomas at 18
. Just above evens to win Tour De France , 18 looks huge |
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i think thats a better bet.
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Which cricketer is most likely to get shortlisted? Would the BBC be reluctant to put Stokes forward, given his history?
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One horse book now...
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It`s a team game so he might well not even be nommed, and there`s five months for him to drift. Max red.
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hes still got the ashes, as have the others.
going some to beat stokes this year, might need some late night action to save the layers, still the shorty got stuffed last year , by a cyclist. |
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Is there a chance Eng might get the Team award and/or Greatest Sporting Moment award?
This was last year's after Geraint Thomas clinched the individual prize:- "England's gold medal-winning netballers have capped a memorable year with two awards at the BBC Sports Personality of the Year show. The Roses were crowned Team of the Year after their historic Commonwealth Games triumph before also being awarded Greatest Sporting Moment of the Year. Helen Housby scored in the final second to give England a 52-51 victory over favourites Australia at April's Games. The Greatest Sporting Moment award is a new category voted for by the public. Fans were asked to choose from five moments over the past 12 months that captured the nation's imagination. England topped the poll ahead of four other shortlisted moments: The England football team's World Cup penalty shootout win Alastair Cook's farewell century for England's cricket team Golfer Tiger Woods' first win in five years Boxer Tyson Fury's fight-back to draw with WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder" |
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england for team award would take some bearing
the run out off last ball of super over will take some beating for golden moment cant see it affecting stokes chances of spoty though. |
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rugby world cup might have its moments....
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Will Ben Stokes make the shortlist of 6? Seems extremely short with the Ashes still to come
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ashes and world cup rugby to follow, difficult to see 6 bettering him winning the world cup...!
even if we lose the ashes he won the world cup, maybe if wales ( or scotland) win rugby world cup a candidate to rival him will emerge |
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it's a very weak year so far. other than england winning the world cup hardly any notable achievements in british sport. might struggle to find 6 strong contenders to fill out the short list
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What has Frankie Dettori done this year?
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Frightened the life out of those poor bookie chaps
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stokes adding to his highlites reel
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apart from that tim? Any milestone or did he win the Derby or anything?
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No CB, no Derby, nor even an exceptional year in any way. He won four on the trot on Ladies Day recently, leading to the bookies refusing accumulators on him the next day and loads of publicity but, apart from that, nothing. If he was on the shortlist, he`s getting to the point where the odd voter might support him in recognition of his career, but there`s zero chance he`ll be shortlisted. Very easy max red.
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Do we know if the BBC are sticking with just 6 nominations again (with at least two having to be female)?
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well well , stokes at it again
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took a chance, rode his luck, delivered...again!
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murray might even have been 1.03 straight after winning wimbledon for the first time
who else is even vaguely in the frame at the moment ? not much else of note this year so far. couldn't say with any certainty anyone but stokes will even make the shortlist at this stage. hamilton maybe but almost a given he wins the championship every year at the moment |
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stokes, archer, rory mcilroy, lewis hamilton?
rugby world cup and athletics world championships yet to happen. us open tennis in play. ashes not finnished yet! |
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dina asher smith might be in the frame if she wins the 100 or 200 at world championship but although a likely medallist don't think she's the favourite for either and she'll have more chance next year with it being the olympics
england, wales and ireland with some northern irish players all have live chances in the rugby world cup but one of them would surely have to win it to give stokes a run for his money. it's not like 2003 when england were obvious favourites from a fair way out and the likes jonny wilkinson and martin johnson were well known. doubt any of the players from those 3 sides register much on a national level to the average voter yet although that could change obviously |
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welsh rugby is huge in wales, ....
somebody like george north would get huge backing |
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i don't doubt that but england is what 15 times bigger than wales and stokes already has a world cup in his pocket
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So can anyone remember the prices of any of the previous year's strong favourites immediately after their defining event and then months later? No guesses. I really can't imagine BF being 1.03 for Murray after Wimbledon if bookies were quoting higher. I thought maybe 1.10 to 1.2 perhaps? Some of you made or lost money so a few of you should be able to recall, like when Bez won CBB everyone remembers Kenzie being 1.14 on the night and Bez being 14:1 (but that was a surprise win, to be fair). Flintoff's odds haven't turned up in any Google searches so far - it's like a conspiracy!
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This is all I know;
2012 Wiggins was 6/4 directly after the Tour 2013 Murray 1.05 a few days before SPOTY 2014 Hamilton still 11/4 days after winning title, Rory having hit at least 1.13 2015 Murray 3.35 the morning after winning the Davis Cup 2016 Murray 7/4 a few weeks after Wimbledon 2017 Farah 10 after winning 10,000, 20+ after second in 5,000 (Some shrewdie getting 330 an hour before SPOTY show was quoted by bf in their ads the next day!) 2018 Thomas 3/1 the day after the Tour |
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No, I know more;
Losing matched prices 2014 1.09 Rory, (and 1.1 during the show!) 2015 1.58 Jess 3.0 Hamilton 4.0 Froome 4.x McCoy 5.7 Fury 6.0 Sinfield 7.8 Farah 2016 3.0 Vardy 3.05 Alastair Brownlee 3.05 Farah 4.8 Bale 4.4 AJ 5.4 Jess 6.0 Trott 6.4 Whitlock 7.0 Jason Kenny 6.2 Willett 8.6 Nick Skelton 9.6 Hamilton 2017 1.1 AJ (350k at 1.15 or lower and 76k gubbed at 1.01 Top 3) 4.0 Konta 4.0 Murray 5.5 Farah 5.9 Defoe 6.4 Ben Ainslie 6.8 Hamilton 7.6 Laura Muir 8.2 Froome 9.6 Rose 2018 1.01 Kane (6k) 3.15 AJ 4.0 Hamilton 4.9 Fury 5.6 Taylor 5.6 Asher Smith 6.0 Pickford 6.2 Ronnie 9.0 Cook 9.2 Yarnold 9.2 Elise Christie Any more evidence needed to show that laying everything that moves, in every Specials market, is the easiest game to play on bf? (All prices and info copyright ahorsewithnoname) |
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2014 1.09 Rory, (and 1.1 during the show!) - correct Tim, I had 1.09 matched on Rory after he won the USPGA.
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darren clark was short when he got gubbed
but giggsy, famously, was 249/1 zara phillips was a decent price on the night |
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Great stuff guys! That list of losers is a real eye-opener.
Zara Phillips was a total surprise to most normal sport-loving blokes. Mo Farah I got 80-1 on so that was a good year. Giggs messed me up - I couldn't comprehend that one at all. Chris Hoy did me well, I seem to recall. We still don't have Murray's odds soon after Wimbledon 2013 and Freddie Flintoff's 2005 odds journey remains particularly elusive, his being the most comparable to Stokes, though I don't recall how strong his year was. This year seems pretty weak so far. |
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Flintoff was not backable on the night in 2005 - I don't recall how his odds shortened through the Ashes. I think Ellen MacArthur was favourite at one point this year pre Ashes, or even during.
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Jenson Button was short odd-on in 2009 - about 1.50?
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in a poor year......
Britain's Jamie Murray won a US Open title for the fourth successive year with a straight-sets triumph in the mixed doubles alongside American Bethanie Mattek-Sands. The pair defended their title with a 6-2 6-3 win over top seeds Chan Hao-ching and Michael Venus. Scot Murray, 33, also made history by becoming the first man in the Open era to win three successive mixed titles at Flushing Meadows. It is his seventh Grand Slam victory. "We played amazing, the whole two weeks," Murray said at the trophy presentation. "We've had so much fun on the court. I'm really, really, really happy to win again." |