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Jim Duncan
18 Dec 17 03:53
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It's about time we had a Top 10 market in addition to a Top 3 market starting right now - the more requests Betfair receive requesting this, the more chance of us getting a Top 10 market.

Very well played 2017 Mo backers, backers of the Two Jonnies for Top 3 and AJ layers - best of luck in 2018!

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By:
donny osmond
When: 19 Dec 17 17:07
jack butland saves dozens of pelanties as engerland win worls cup
By:
mafeking
When: 19 Dec 17 21:34
elise christie must have a shout in what could be another very open year. know it's a unpredictable sport with seemingly a huge element of luck but she could pick up multiple golds if it it goes her way which would be unprecedented for a british winter olympian
By:
johnnyrant
When: 20 Dec 17 09:17
2018 a really strong sporting year. Winter Olympics, Commonwealth Games, World Cup, Ryder Cup among the highlights.
By:
Jim Duncan
When: 20 Dec 17 20:26
...yeah - thank you (finally) BetFair - my persistence has paid off - we now have a top 3 AND a Top 10 market to play :)
By:
Jim Duncan
When: 20 Dec 17 20:35
...this has taken me several years of persistent asking :)
By:
Jim Duncan
When: 20 Dec 17 20:45
I feel like Andy Daufresne from 'The Shawshank Redemption'!
By:
timbuctooth
When: 06 Jan 18 01:05
Top 10 market gone? Messers G'n'T again, I presume?
By:
sofiakenny
When: 10 Feb 18 10:20
Any mugs (apart from me) on Elize Christie?
By:
hemsby
When: 10 Feb 18 14:13
Me too Kenny Grin

Would make a terrific story if she can win a gold after her 3 DQ’s four years ago.Looks to have real medal chances in all three events.On E/W @ 33/1.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 10 Feb 18 15:36
great stuff hems..I'm more confident knowing a shrewdie is on.
By:
JOMO
When: 13 Feb 18 10:05
I'm aboard the Elise Express too, gents. Got the last of 118's 33/1 this morning (win only - can see her dropping below 3/1 if she gets gold, so a nice green).

The back story is set up perfectly for her - and Beeb have hyping their little socks off this morning). Three bites at the cherry too, albeit the 500 presents her best chance on paper.
By:
JOMO
When: 13 Feb 18 10:05
*have been hyping
By:
JOMO
When: 13 Feb 18 12:10
Not to be today. How the Belgian lass actually came away with a medal after that SF and F I'll never know?!

The drama/crashing out/crying coverage ratchets up the tension/sympathy actually probably helps her spoty chances more than a silver or bronze would have done.

Hope she does actually come away with a medal for her own sake... she's (understandably) feeling this big time and don't think she could carry the weight of six Olympic "defeats" with her for another four years. Plain
By:
sofiakenny
When: 13 Feb 18 12:27
Agree with that Jomo....perfect scenario would be is she crashes and burns in the 1500
but then against all odds wins gold in the 1000.
By:
JOMO
When: 17 Feb 18 10:37
Well, she has indeed crashed, so the perfect scenario is set up. But that's provided she's not picked up a serious injury... Plain
By:
sofiakenny
When: 17 Feb 18 11:51
I love it when a plan comes together(coutesy of D ick Dastardly)
By:
Jim Duncan
When: 17 Feb 18 12:33
...the problem for Elise is that she has the following dilemma: skate and finish and maybe get a medal OR go for gold and risk another traumatic experience?
By:
JOMO
When: 17 Feb 18 16:48
She strikes me as the sort who'll still go for gold, Jim. Doesn't seem like one to play percentages.

Meanwhile, Lizzy Yarnold becomes the first Brit to successfully defend a Winter Olympic title and drops to anything from 8/1 to 14/1 for spoty. The result's even got Betfair Spotsbook easing Kyle Edmund's 6/1 price. Laugh

I'm not sure what to make of Yarnold tbh. Today ticks some decent spoty-ripe achievement boxes but my gut instinct is that, even if Elise doesn't come away with a gold and LY gets the Olympic triumph story to herself, she won't win. She might have just triumphed, but the triumph-over-adversity levels are too low for my liking - both in terms of her upbringing and the immediate circumstances around her victory today.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 17 Feb 18 19:03
The SPOTY market is made for laying these early-year flash in the pans; pretty much forgotten about by next week, with ensuing market drifts. Max red.
By:
JOMO
When: 20 Feb 18 10:58
Well that's the end of the Elise Express (insert coming off the track puns here). Good value for the price right to the end.

Yarnold has come in a jiffy as a result but otherwise I'd agree jim her price is only going to drift over the next nine months.

Don't think there's anyone else on the immediate horizon to get on. Laura Muir looks to be in good form once again and, although she wouldn't stand a chance of winning, she'd have been an option to get a cheeky point on for trading purposes ahead of the World Indoors. However, she's apparently missing the Commonwealths in order to sit her Uni exams so I'll leave it. Can't see any other track or field athletes pulling off such a performance they'd be in with a sniff of spoty.
By:
JOMO
When: 20 Feb 18 10:59
*agree tim, not jim.

(Though agree with everything you've said too jim Laugh)
By:
donny osmond
When: 20 Feb 18 13:48
yeah, its almost back to sleep

rory at masters next alarm call for me, unless we get a female grand national winner
By:
Hove_Park_Upper_School
When: 19 Jul 18 00:48
What's people's thoughts on the current state of the 2018 SPOTY market and potential winner?

With the whole of the UK going football mad, way beyond anything any other sport can achieve, it's hard to look beyond Harry Kane or have I totally missed someone who can beat him realistically?
Winning the Golden Boot award was the icing on his cake & I can imagine this being prominently mentioned in the live show in December.
By:
Hove_Park_Upper_School
When: 19 Jul 18 00:52
What other big sporting events are still to come that could bring someone else into the frame?
There aren't any big olympic events to come in 2018 & no-one from darts, snooker, horse racing, golf, tennis or cricket seems to be worthy this year so far...
By:
donny osmond
When: 19 Jul 18 17:51
theres a welsh bloke leading tour de france

should imagine that would be good enough
By:
razz
When: 20 Jul 18 08:40
team sky. doubt he'd get that many votes.
By:
razz
When: 20 Jul 18 08:41
froome should be a good back to lay if he wins but haven't been watching this year. team sky could let thomas challenge froome instead of support him.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 20 Jul 18 22:50
Froome will never win SPOTY, far too tainted; an easy annual max red
By:
Hove_Park_Upper_School
When: 21 Jul 18 22:45
So should I be cheering for Geraint Thomas (first Welshman to win the race) or Chris Froome (Obviously I want to cheer the one with the least chance to win SPOTY) ?
By:
Hove_Park_Upper_School
When: 22 Jul 18 02:59
"Joshua this week announced his next world title defence against Alexander Povetkin at Wembley Stadium on September 22"
This is likely Joshua's only remaining match this year....if he won, would this be enough to give him any realistic chance of winning SPOTY?
By:
razz
When: 23 Jul 18 05:16
as opposed to all the other athletes that have been in contention...
By:
razz
When: 23 Jul 18 05:17

Jul 20, 2018 -- 5:50PM, timbuctooth wrote:


Froome will never win SPOTY, far too tainted; an easy annual max red


^^

but yeah he will never win despite most athletes using drugs. i usually just back him at the start of the tour and lay of after he wins.

By:
razz
When: 23 Jul 18 05:21

Jul 21, 2018 -- 9:59PM, Hove_Park_Upper_School wrote:


"Joshua this week announced his next world title defence against Alexander Povetkin at Wembley Stadium on September 22" This is likely Joshua's only remaining match this year....if he won, would this be enough to give him any realistic chance of winning SPOTY?


I got wrecked betting joshua last year. no chance a defence vs povetkin will put him in contention. that is not a big fight for casuals. if he couldn't even place top 3 last year after beating ****g klitschko who was one of the most dominant HW champions ever at the height of bad UK relations with russia in recent years, then he stands no chance this year if he beats some unheard of ukranian whilst ducking wilder..
max red for me. I want some of my money back joshua!

By:
razz
When: 23 Jul 18 05:22
does feel like kane is the logical choice here. lack of contenders this year is laughable. got stung badly last year but not gonna make that mistake again.
By:
Hove_Park_Upper_School
When: 25 Jul 18 16:10
Geraint Thomas has all but won the tour de france & has shortened into 6 at the time of this post, which seems very short indeed for someone that few people outside the cycle world will have heard of.
I can imagine a conversation "Who should win SPOTY, Harry Kane or Geraint Thomas?" with the reply from 9/10 being who is Geraint Thomas!
By:
timbuctooth
When: 25 Jul 18 20:05
He`s even money to be found guilty of doping long before SPOTY, FFS! Another mac red
By:
Hove_Park_Upper_School
When: 25 Jul 18 21:11
Why isn't Harry Kane in the region of 1.20 at this point?
I've had my biggest bet for over 5 years on him to win SPOTY & I'm now getting paranoid that I'm missing something obvious?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 26 Jul 18 13:08
"He`s even money to be found guilty of doping long before SPOTY, FFS! Another mac red"

Boxing being the most drug abused sport in the world, you are talking about Anthony Joshua tim? Povetkin AJ's next opponent has failed 2 drugs tests in the past 2 years, Lucas Browne has failed two too, Ortiz has failed one as has Dillian Whyte.  That's just the heavyweights I am aware of as a very casual boxing observer.

Then we've got Saul Alvarez, rated pound for pound the best boxer in the world.  He's had two or three failed tests and is still lined up to fight GG.   Even the Japanese have failed one in boxing and they are the cleanest nation in world sport.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 26 Jul 18 18:18
NO, CB, I was talking about Thomas! Only four or five of winners in the last 50 years have avoided some degree of drug scandal, so it`s long odds on that this one`s at it as well; for layers, it`s a case of `will he be rumbled before SPOTY?` Probably not, but certainly possible enough to erase fears of a max red.
Wasn`t aware of those boxing druggies, but I vaguely assume drug use is widespread and wholesale across the sporting world, so not surprised at all
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